My game controllers are a pain. I am using a music-making app'(Reaper) which can utilise gamepads as midi controllers. there are generic"script" documents within the app's files in the form of text (.txt) documents. These get me the buttons able to trigger notes via midi channel 1, and as default have pitchbend set to the x-axis, and modulation to the y-axis. I haven't been able to locate any solid info' on what language this script is in, 'else I'd probably be able to muddle my way through the jargon, and set the things myself. there's still the Z&Zr axes to assign, and I would prefer to be able to assign the second controller to a seperate midi channel, effectively adding another live instrument to my computer music setup. But I am stuck, and my friends who know a bit of this stuff, don't know enough to be of susbstantial help(not through lack of effort, they just don't know). Any info' on this issue would be greatly appreciated. Aside from this issue, they are just fine!! My controllers identify themselves to windows XP as "twin USB vibration gamepad", they are a pair of "playstation style" dual analog controllers on the one USB cable. The make is "Ehere", and the model number "EJ-04".