xp1700 is tbred B, wcpuid

"Stepping 1" means T-bred "B"

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>

SCHWEEET.
a 1700+ tbredB!
thats gonna overclock sick!

here is a good test for you...
if it cant get too much beyond 1800-1900mhz without excessive core voltage its a tbred A...
if its a B it should easily breach 2Ghz and beyond with low voltage.

<b>My Computer is so powerful Sauron Desires it and mortal men Covet it, <i>My Precioussssssss</i></b>

nope. It happens from time to time, with both amd and intel.

when the northwood first came out slower "backfill" models were also released, the 1.6A and 1.8A which are well known to Overclock well.
Then when the C1 stepping came out that could overclock to 3.5 or more a few rare c1's found their way out as 1.8A's or 2.0A's... and they were fantastic overclockers.

basically they stop making palominos and tbredA's... and any gaps in the product linup might be filled with slowed down tbredB's.

<b>My Computer is so powerful Sauron Desires it and mortal men Covet it, <i>My Precioussssssss</i></b>

cool and im running it in a7n8x delux so im doing pretty good for what i paid. D@MN I LOVE AMD



If you ever stop learning, YOU'ER DEAD!!

Dunno... what chipsets are those boards based on?
If its Nforce1 or KT266A or earlier then the answer is no, unless you unlock them and run them as unidentified processors at 133FSB.

You need at least 166FSB support, so Nforce2, KT333, or SiS 755 support.

<b>Anyone claiming they can see the difference
between 450 and 500 FPS in Quake3 deserves to
be severely beaten with a rock. </b>

asus a7n266 vm aa = nforce 220d IGP-64 North bridge & Nvidia MCP-d South bridge
biostar M7VIG Pro = via km266/VT8235
shuttle ak35gt2 = kt 333 VT8367/VT8233a

well:
Nforce1 @ 166fsb is a no.
KT266 @ 166FSB is also a no go, unless you want PCI/AGP speeds of 41.5 and 82.
The shuttle KT333 is a maybe... Depends on how well it was made. Many of the first KT333's were really only designed for 133fsb operation, with 166fsb being to taxing on the system, even though the chipset supports the 1/5 PCI divider.

your shuttle might be able to do it... best to check the shuttle website.

<b>Anyone claiming they can see the difference
between 450 and 500 FPS in Quake3 deserves to
be severely beaten with a rock. </b>

there may be some difference, like not being able to get to 2200mhz at 1.65v, but usually they are pretty similar, just downbinned, much like the P4 1.6A and 1.8A.

so your cpu has LOTS of headroom in it... or you could run at stock speed at a VERY low voltage.


<b>Anyone claiming they can see the difference
between 450 and 500 FPS in Quake3 deserves to
be severely beaten with a rock. </b>

Why do you say they should be unlocked on a new nForce 2 motherboard? If you're not overclocking, is there any reason to be unlocked?

Unless you want a really cool running system.

My TbredA XP1700+ can do 1.4v at stock speed, i would do lower but its not supported on my motherboard and thats a tbredA... not even a B.

Nice and cool

<b>Anyone claiming they can see the difference
between 450 and 500 FPS in Quake3 deserves to
be severely beaten with a rock. </b>

LOL calm down. And yes, it is very good.

Thats why i consider the new XP1700+ B's to be the AMD equivalents of the 1.8A or 1.6A P4's.

even the TbredA XP1700+ arnt too shabby. 25% oc here saving me some 100-200 australian dollars.

<b>Anyone claiming they can see the difference
between 450 and 500 FPS in Quake3 deserves to
be severely beaten with a rock. </b>

T-bred "B" come unlocked (AXDA1700DUT3C), T-bred "A" doesn't (AXDA1700DLT3C). I can get mine to run at 1826mhz (166 x 11), I had to increase the voltage to 1.75 to keep it from crashing when loading a bunch of programs at once.

Now the only problem I have is that it will lock up Medal of Honor:AA about 30 minutes into the game, it doesn't lock up any of my other games or the desktop (just have to CTRL+ALT+DEL MOHAA and restart it; ended up dropping it to 155x11 @ 1.65v) Was thinking I need to pull the voltage up a tad bit more, but the board doesn't go over 1.75 (Asus A7N8X Deluxe; manual says it goes 1.85, bios shows likewise).

I was going to do the unlock crap so I could lower the multiplier (my chip doesn't have laser cuts inbetween the bridges like everyone elses, whats up with that?), just don't feel like pulling the heatsink off again.

Well anyway, you couldn't expect more from a $49 processor, congratulations on such a fine overclock!

That's what I figured; since the L1 bridges don't have the laser cuts inbetween them, I wouldn't need to use any sort of spacer (nail glue or filler) inbetween the contacts, just apply the silver laquer to connect them individually together, correct?

ooops I just realised you were talking about the L11 bridges.. sry.

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