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Well, CB, I am pleased to note that you are beginning to be a little more
helpful though you appear to still be having trouble with the condescencion
and a strong tendancy to jump to conclusions.
You write :
Well, if the solution to Your problem is written _two_lines_ above the
BIOS update for diskettes You *obviously* were able to find, it's *obvious*
that You didn't read the web page carefully. Or why else didn't You see
what's written on the exact same page?
You apparently believe that I have been to the same page as you ?
But why are you convinced of that ?
If you have found useful information on a page, why do you imagine that
another internet user should be on the same page as yourself ?
Surely you realise that it's not just because something seem "obvious" to
you that it is real.
FYI: There are about 220 pages on the hp site that deal with nx7000 bios
upgrades.
My initial searches landed me here :
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqnk/us/download/19000.html
No mention of "bootable CDs", winflash ...
I get the impression that you are using the newsgroup to practise being rude
in English.
If you really want to be helpful - and after all that's what newsgroups are
for - you could indicate on which page you have found this information "two
lines above" the diskette information.
Then I will be more than pleased to thank you.
Varuna No Floppy
"Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de> a écrit dans le message de news:
3jin56ForkglU1@individual.net...
> Varuna wrote:
>
>> I think that Condescending Benjamin should refrain from making any
>> more rash judgements.
>> He keeps on referring to me as OP. So from now on I will refer to him
>> as CB as he seems to prefer jargon to plain English.
>
> FYI: "OP" is a common standard UseNet term for the person who started a
> thread ("Original Poster")...
>
>> 1. *Basically,* users need to use computers, not fix them, maintain
>> them. Even less do they need to learn to master new techniques that
>> repair techical problems that shouldn't appear in the first place.
>
> So what?
>
>> 2. My nx7000 laptop crashes for no apparent reason. No matter what
>> application I am using. The machine does a power-off while I am
>> using it. About once a week. Battery and mains supply are apparently
>> OK.
>
> Sounds more like a heat problem. Especially the memory stick under the
> keyboard gets very hot, often enough it fails...
>
>> 3. I have been a HP customer since 1989 and I have always found that
>> HP Support people - in such cases - usually ask, "Is your BIOS up to
>> date?". So before complaining about these crashes I decided to do the
>> update before the techie asked the question. (Nowadays, HP support
>> has really gone down the drain. Often enough it's farmed out to third
>> party companies, with arrogant 21 year old schoolboys reading
>> questions from a page, questions that have absolutely nothing to do
>> with the problem.)
>
> Fine. So what?
>
>> 4. There is now a school of thought that says that if HP brings out a
>> BIOS update, the intelligent thing to do is NOT to apply it. BIOS
>> updates are for newbies who are not on the insider knowledge circuit.
>
> Stupid thinking.
>
>> 5. I am the user. I dont know why CB says that I did not read the site
>> sufficiently. What does he know about what I did or or did not do ?
>> Jumping to conclusions. Arrogance.
>
> Well, if the solution to Your problem is written _two_lines_ above the
> BIOS update for diskettes You obviously were able to find, it's obvious
> that You didn't read the web page carefully. Or why else didn't You see
> what's written on the exact same page?
>
>> 6. If CB finds that users are silly to rely on floppy drives as media
>> for updates in 2005, why then does HP, in 2005, publish BIOS updates
>> that require media that the user can't use?
>
> Ask HP. But I'm sure HP also will ask the customer why he simply didn't
> use the tools he can use that are located on the same page like the tools
> he can't use...
>
>> You can't have it both
>> ways. It's HP that says we should copy the software to the floppy,
>> and the user is some kind of half-wit because he tries to do what the
>> web site techies tell him to do ?
>
> Hmmm...the site tells me that I can either use a floppy or use the Windows
> flasher. So what?
>
>> Apparently, CB himself has had a
>> BIOS update in his brain. He has been reprogrammed so that whe he
>> sees the word "floppy" on a HP site, he immediately interprets
>> "Bootable CD" ... Legacy numbskulls from the 20th century - such as
>> myself - must be such a drag.
>
> No. A drag are people that don't see the solution even if it bites them in
> their arse...
>
>> 7. Does CB believe he is a cut above the average dumb newbie because
>> he can make bootable CDs or bootable USB sticks ? yeah man ! You're
>> so cool. Cutting edge technology.
>
> Yeah, cutting edge. Bootable CD-RWs are almost 10 years old. Really
> cutting edge...
>
>> 8. How is it that the combined power and wealth of HP and Compaq
>> (remember the 70 million dollar bonus to Carly just for clocking in?)
>> still hasn't come up with a utility that will copy the BIOS upgrade
>> to a CD or a USB stick ? Or maybe they have such a utility and I was
>> just too dumb to find it.
>
> Or maybe it's so easy to make a bootable CD with every CD Recording
> software that it's really obvious to write anything about it on the
> webiste? Especially since some people even don't see what's already
> there...
>
>> 9. OK. I've had my little rant for the morning.
>> 10. So - to get back to the question - the only solution is to use a
>> bootable CD or USB stick ?
>
> No, it's the Windows flasher You are ignoring permanently.
>
> EOD
>
> Benjamin
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