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Hello, I have recently set up a camera on my front porch, set to view the driveway and any (dropped, banged, kicked, smashed) package deliveries. The Camera is under a roof and protected from weather. Tonight, it is 14 degrees f and there is no snow or rain or anything like that. The camera uses near infrared led's for night vision. When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs, there's no dogwood trees shedding bits of fluff or anything... We've observed these little "floaters" every night, any time that the camera is using the IR for illumination. The specks are blurry and appear to be very close to the camera lens. I tried to google this but just got a bunch of ghosty paranormal nonsense, and I wasn't able to find a video that looked like mine do. Does anyone have and idea what I'm seeing? Is it a video artifact? Thank you!!
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    mikaselm said:
    Hello, I have recently set up a camera on my front porch, set to view the driveway and any (dropped, banged, kicked, smashed) package deliveries. The Camera is under a roof and protected from weather. Tonight, it is 14 degrees f and there is no snow or rain or anything like that. The camera uses near infrared led's for night vision. When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs, there's no dogwood trees shedding bits of fluff or anything... We've observed these little "floaters" every night, any time that the camera is using the IR for illumination. The specks are blurry and appear to be very close to the camera lens. I tried to google this but just got a bunch of ghosty paranormal nonsense, and I wasn't able to find a video that looked like mine do. Does anyone have and idea what I'm seeing? Is it a video artifact? Thank you!!


    most likely caused by the ir led's themselves, go outside without turning on your porch light and stare closely into the camera, if you see the ir led's flickering up like the image then thats your problem, glass in front of the leds will also produce this effect

    this is a problem with many cheap "night vision" cameras on the market, although ir leds do work to illuminate the night for cctv, the cameras that have them built in are built like garbage in 90% of the cases, the ir illumination actually causes a reflective effect on the image, good ir cameras have ir cut off filter that filter out the reflections, the best way to utilize infrared for night time illumination is to use a good day/night camera with ir filter lens built in (color day- black and white night) without ir leds and use a separate ir illumination modules or ir lamps.

    hope that helps if not, post again and well try something else
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  3. Your issue sounds exactly like mine.
    Except my camera is indoors in a warehouse with no windows only a bay door that is far and closed from the camera.
    No air conditioning either .. No ventilation.
    These little speck glow and travel pretty fast and sometimes it's one or many but the thing I notice the most is that they go into the wall and disappear ..
    It's very clear.
    There is also a flame like thing that happens on one video ... It actually makes a noise as it does it like flapping.. And again there is nothing that can move there.... No fire and no embers.
  4. mikaselm said:
    ...When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs...


    I see this phenomenon too, and have for the past several months. Mine are like billions (or more, at their heaviest flow) tiny flying objects moving in more or less unison, and some times extremely quickly. And when this flow is strongest it's making it difficult to see more than a few feet past the camera (I can usually see clearly across or down the length of the street, from various cameras). But when they move slower, it appears to me to be some kind of micro bug, as the swarm tends to move like flying bird groups do, not randomly or in complete unison. This isn't any form of camera issue. This is definitely something living, IMO. And as you say, the strangest part is that no matter how hard you try the naked eye can't see even the slightest trace of any movement or related disturbance during this event. And it honesty freaks me out that virtually no one else is seeing or discussing this!?!? It's very bizarre, and a little spooky to me, especially when the flow is so dense - and yet you can see NOTHING with your eyes or even using digital cameras. If anyone finds anything about what we are actually seeing, I'd love to hear!
  5. mikaselm said:
    Hello, I have recently set up a camera on my front porch, set to view the driveway and any (dropped, banged, kicked, smashed) package deliveries. The Camera is under a roof and protected from weather. Tonight, it is 14 degrees f and there is no snow or rain or anything like that. The camera uses near infrared led's for night vision. When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs, there's no dogwood trees shedding bits of fluff or anything... We've observed these little "floaters" every night, any time that the camera is using the IR for illumination. The specks are blurry and appear to be very close to the camera lens. I tried to google this but just got a bunch of ghosty paranormal nonsense, and I wasn't able to find a video that looked like mine do. Does anyone have and idea what I'm seeing? Is it a video artifact? Thank you!!
  6. the fact of the matter is that in fact the strange particulates that you are seeing are a mixture of the fallout from geoengineering programs (aluminum barium lithium}being implemented on a global scale growing in intensity daily in a desperate attempt to stop global warming research arctic methane release and particles resulting from the multiple meltdowns and explosions that have occurred at Fukushima if you look closely you may notice that some particles are circular or round appearing hollow in the center this is indicative of spent plutonium and other materials sent in to gulf stream air currents i urge anyone reading this don't believe me do the research yourself mainstream media is a absolute joke they are long since bought and payed for and are being used to cover up many things occurring on this planet that could very well lead to the absolute end of all life on the planet please you owe it to yourselves your children to uncover the truth about this world before you wright me off as a conspiracy nut ask yourself what if hes right
  7. ClassiccarsNJ said:
    Your issue sounds exactly like mine.
    Except my camera is indoors in a warehouse with no windows only a bay door that is far and closed from the camera.
    No air conditioning either .. No ventilation.
    These little speck glow and travel pretty fast and sometimes it's one or many but the thing I notice the most is that they go into the wall and disappear ..
    It's very clear.
    There is also a flame like thing that happens on one video ... It actually makes a noise as it does it like flapping.. And again there is nothing that can move there.... No fire and no embers.


    SFAM said:
    mikaselm said:
    ...When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs...


    I see this phenomenon too, and have for the past several months. Mine are like billions (or more, at their heaviest flow) tiny flying objects moving in more or less unison, and some times extremely quickly. And when this flow is strongest it's making it difficult to see more than a few feet past the camera (I can usually see clearly across or down the length of the street, from various cameras). But when they move slower, it appears to me to be some kind of micro bug, as the swarm tends to move like flying bird groups do, not randomly or in complete unison. This isn't any form of camera issue. This is definitely something living, IMO. And as you say, the strangest part is that no matter how hard you try the naked eye can't see even the slightest trace of any movement or related disturbance during this event. And it honesty freaks me out that virtually no one else is seeing or discussing this!?!? It's very bizarre, and a little spooky to me, especially when the flow is so dense - and yet you can see NOTHING with your eyes or even using digital cameras. If anyone finds anything about what we are actually seeing, I'd love to hear!

  8. I just set up my camera it is HD and i am seeing fast moving floating something in my basement i set it up to see if the children would get up out of bed. I would aso like to know what iam looking at very scared. Very fast and i cant make out what iam looking at in any resolution. disapears in to walls and my basement floor As a mom Iam seeing it go on for hours
  9. Am I missing something or isn't this just water vapor in the air? When you bring the camera in a insulated dry warm room what happens?
  10. SFAM said:
    mikaselm said:
    ...When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs...


    I see this phenomenon too, and have for the past several months. Mine are like billions (or more, at their heaviest flow) tiny flying objects moving in more or less unison, and some times extremely quickly. And when this flow is strongest it's making it difficult to see more than a few feet past the camera (I can usually see clearly across or down the length of the street, from various cameras). But when they move slower, it appears to me to be some kind of micro bug, as the swarm tends to move like flying bird groups do, not randomly or in complete unison. This isn't any form of camera issue. This is definitely something living, IMO. And as you say, the strangest part is that no matter how hard you try the naked eye can't see even the slightest trace of any movement or related disturbance during this event. And it honesty freaks me out that virtually no one else is seeing or discussing this!?!? It's very bizarre, and a little spooky to me, especially when the flow is so dense - and yet you can see NOTHING with your eyes or even using digital cameras. If anyone finds anything about what we are actually seeing, I'd love to hear!

  11. Helena_11 said:
    SFAM said:
    mikaselm said:
    ...When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs...


    I see this phenomenon too, and have for the past several months. Mine are like billions (or more, at their heaviest flow) tiny flying objects moving in more or less unison, and some times extremely quickly. And when this flow is strongest it's making it difficult to see more than a few feet past the camera (I can usually see clearly across or down the length of the street, from various cameras). But when they move slower, it appears to me to be some kind of micro bug, as the swarm tends to move like flying bird groups do, not randomly or in complete unison. This isn't any form of camera issue. This is definitely something living, IMO. And as you say, the strangest part is that no matter how hard you try the naked eye can't see even the slightest trace of any movement or related disturbance during this event. And it honesty freaks me out that virtually no one else is seeing or discussing this!?!? It's very bizarre, and a little spooky to me, especially when the flow is so dense - and yet you can see NOTHING with your eyes or even using digital cameras. If anyone finds anything about what we are actually seeing, I'd love to hear!



  12. Okay so we see them on the video camera when dark that is confirmed. Have you tried at dusk time looking out at the sunset now? I've noticed that where there are clouds right at eye level.. Those orbs are easily seen in pictures with a camera such as an iPhone or Nikon or canon. Well not so much the orb itself but trails it makes in the clouds. Colors and sunsets. And no not chemtrails.
  13. iQrayon said:
    Helena_11 said:
    SFAM said:
    mikaselm said:
    ...When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs...


    I see this phenomenon too, and have for the past several months. Mine are like billions (or more, at their heaviest flow) tiny flying objects moving in more or less unison, and some times extremely quickly. And when this flow is strongest it's making it difficult to see more than a few feet past the camera (I can usually see clearly across or down the length of the street, from various cameras). But when they move slower, it appears to me to be some kind of micro bug, as the swarm tends to move like flying bird groups do, not randomly or in complete unison. This isn't any form of camera issue. This is definitely something living, IMO. And as you say, the strangest part is that no matter how hard you try the naked eye can't see even the slightest trace of any movement or related disturbance during this event. And it honesty freaks me out that virtually no one else is seeing or discussing this!?!? It's very bizarre, and a little spooky to me, especially when the flow is so dense - and yet you can see NOTHING with your eyes or even using digital cameras. If anyone finds anything about what we are actually seeing, I'd love to hear!





  14. Does it looks like on that video? And is there any cameras which don't have that issue at night?

  15. spacesnow said:
    Does it looks like on that video? And is there any cameras which don't have that issue at night?





    Hi,
    No, the orbs or spheres that I am seeing are not even close to that you show in the video. However, that kind of fast flies or whatever they are, can be observed some nights when the orbs are absent. For instance, when we have too much wind or it is raining or even after the rain, the orbs are never present. They like no windy, relatively hot and quiet nights, thus they can float on the air slowly. These orbs are the largest, and they are slow. Others instead are very fast, and move in groups. They travel horizontally straight and close to the floor, and generally are small. Even other solitary smaller orbs seem to have an intermittent light. What I see is in all my cameras and I was noticed that spherical and very fast "things" have been reported from some security cameras in Montevideo, 40 km from where I live. I will try to upload a video as soon as possible. Helena
  16. Hi,
    No, the orbs or spheres that I am seeing are not even close to that you show in the video. However, that kind of fast flies or whatever they are, can be observed some nights when the orbs are absent. For instance, when we have too much wind or it is raining or even after the rain, the orbs are never present. They like no windy, relatively hot and quiet nights, thus they can float on the air slowly. These orbs are the largest, and they are slow. Others instead are very fast, and move in groups. They travel horizontally straight and close to the floor, and generally are small. Even other solitary smaller orbs seem to have an intermittent light. What I see is in all my cameras and I was noticed that spherical and very fast "things" have been reported from some security cameras in Montevideo, 40 km from where I live. I will try to upload a video as soon as possible. Helena
  17. Hey, there are lots of variation in shapes and moves of these particles on my cam, too. There must be some environmental parameters, like humidity, below zero temperatures etc which causes the IR leds to reflect back to lenses that way. I followed the image tonight and at one point it just got clear within few minutes. It's not happening every night and I can live with it. And I'm believing there's nothing I can do to fix the issue. Maybe there are more suitable cameras for local weather conditions.
    Anyway thanks for everybody who shared information!
  18. spacesnow said:
    Hey, there are lots of variation in shapes and moves of these particles on my cam, too. There must be some environmental parameters, like humidity, below zero temperatures etc which causes the IR leds to reflect back to lenses that way. I followed the image tonight and at one point it just got clear within few minutes. It's not happening every night and I can live with it. And I'm believing there's nothing I can do to fix the issue. Maybe there are more suitable cameras for local weather conditions.
    Anyway thanks for everybody who shared information!
  19. Yes, you are right! Maybe humidity can be the solution, they appear just before the rain. Thank you. Best
  20. mikaselm said:
    Hello, I have recently set up a camera on my front porch, set to view the driveway and any (dropped, banged, kicked, smashed) package deliveries. The Camera is under a roof and protected from weather. Tonight, it is 14 degrees f and there is no snow or rain or anything like that. The camera uses near infrared led's for night vision. When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs, there's no dogwood trees shedding bits of fluff or anything... We've observed these little "floaters" every night, any time that the camera is using the IR for illumination. The specks are blurry and appear to be very close to the camera lens. I tried to google this but just got a bunch of ghosty paranormal nonsense, and I wasn't able to find a video that looked like mine do. Does anyone have and idea what I'm seeing? Is it a video artifact? Thank you!!
  21. I am seeing the same thing in my night vision cameras. I have a Arlo system and was wondering if it was exclusively linked to Arlo. I did see something about as big as a dollar bill fly by on the camera in my garage
  22. SFAM said:
    mikaselm said:
    ...When viewing in the dark (the effect stops if I turn on the porch light) I can see little specks floating upward across the camera image. When watching, it looks like gnats or fruit flies flying close to the camera, but it's far too cold out for bugs. The specks always move in generally upward motion, sometimes zigzagging or curving across the screen. I also thought that it looked a bit as though there were a fire under the camera and we were seeing floating embers, but of course there's no fires on my porch!! Standing on the porch I can't see any kind of floating specs...


    I see this phenomenon too, and have for the past several months. Mine are like billions (or more, at their heaviest flow) tiny flying objects moving in more or less unison, and some times extremely quickly. And when this flow is strongest it's making it difficult to see more than a few feet past the camera (I can usually see clearly across or down the length of the street, from various cameras). But when they move slower, it appears to me to be some kind of micro bug, as the swarm tends to move like flying bird groups do, not randomly or in complete unison. This isn't any form of camera issue. This is definitely something living, IMO. And as you say, the strangest part is that no matter how hard you try the naked eye can't see even the slightest trace of any movement or related disturbance during this event. And it honesty freaks me out that virtually no one else is seeing or discussing this!?!? It's very bizarre, and a little spooky to me, especially when the flow is so dense - and yet you can see NOTHING with your eyes or even using digital cameras. If anyone finds anything about what we are actually seeing, I'd love to hear!

  23. I think I have an idea what it is - I have this on two of my cameras that I just installed. Of the four cameras installed only two have this effect of light spots going every which direction. I thought what is different about these two camera - but they are under mounted under the eaves as opposed to on the side of the house like the other two. I suspect this has to do with a few things: 1. the air currents and dust. 2. Poor quality infrared that has been mentioned in other postings here. 3. The configuration settings - there appears to be many settings that you can adjust the cameras and I suspect that it has to do with a filter. The underside of my eaves are a white metallic and I suspect that it might also reflect some lights which may also contribute to particulates and other items showing on the IR.
  24. I tried a experiment in my living room where I was seeing Orbs. Some small and some big enough to actually see inside them. They have a swirly Type of appearance on the inside of them. Long story short I was convinced they were orbs everybody I know kept telling me it was dust. So the experiment I tried one as I have a fish tank that is next to a set of carpeted steps. I placed the camera on top of the fish tank turned all the lights out and rubbed the carpet and hit on it and wow!, there were my orbs. A bunch of dust. I wouldn't of believed it but I tried it and saw it with my own eyes.
  25. spacesnow said:
    Does it looks like on that video? And is there any cameras which don't have that issue at night?



    My cameras do exactly the same. That is dust and pollen.
  26. I purchased several cameras from ShoppingCCTV on EBay. These cameras are really from Great Wall Security and are model GW400WHD. They have 72 IR emitters and do produce an image well over 100 ft from the camera in full darkness. During daylight operation, they are really good. BUT, once in full IR mode, they produce the flying spots referenced in these posts. Great Wall Security has been great at trying to give me an answer to the problem. Over more than 9 months I've sent them videos of the cameras in many situations. I've taken the cameras and placed them inside a dusty attic...and the IR is perfect...no flying spots....using the same line as used to connect the camera when it is outside. Take that same camera and move it outside, when it is dry, when it is raining, when it is cold, when it is warm....it doesn't matter; the spots reappear. These cameras simply are not of high enough quality to not have the floating spots. I don't believe it is pollen, etc. All those other potential influencers won't result in spots going horizontally, vertically or spiraling.....and all of these happen.
    Now I will give Great Wall Security kudos since they sent me two additional cameras during the testing I've done hoping that they would function properly. Unfortunately, both functioned worse than any of the three I already had.
    Bottom line, they have no idea how to fix the problem. I am returning all 5 cameras I now have for a full refund. They said they contacted the actual manufacturer in China and sent them the videos I shot of the recorded images. Personally, I think they know these cameras can't produce good IR images but don't want to own up to the quality problem. They are advertised as having the cut filters in them to reduce this problem as noted by one other poster to this thread. I think the bottom line is to go buy some solid quality cameras that will function properly and dump this cheap product. Most certainly there are other cameras out there that function as needed....just check out cameras at car dealerships for ones that don't have streaks and floating spots.
    If anyone has found good long distance IR cameras, please post what you've found and where. The model I've noted above just hasn't worked after extensive testing over a number of months....I guess, "buyer beware" applies....................
  27. onewhocansee said:
    the fact of the matter is that in fact the strange particulates that you are seeing are a mixture of the fallout from geoengineering programs (aluminum barium lithium}being implemented on a global scale growing in intensity daily in a desperate attempt to stop global warming research arctic methane release and particles resulting from the multiple meltdowns and explosions that have occurred at Fukushima if you look closely you may notice that some particles are circular or round appearing hollow in the center this is indicative of spent plutonium and other materials sent in to gulf stream air currents i urge anyone reading this don't believe me do the research yourself mainstream media is a absolute joke they are long since bought and payed for and are being used to cover up many things occurring on this planet that could very well lead to the absolute end of all life on the planet please you owe it to yourselves your children to uncover the truth about this world before you wright me off as a conspiracy nut ask yourself what if hes right
  28. You are the only one who got this puzzle correct. It is indeed geoengineering fallout. It is true that insects are attracted to infrared, but we are talking about billions to trillions of particulate artifacts. These can be seen late at night through about 3:00 am. Probably in an attempt to hide what they are doing. This has absolutely nothing to do with SRM (solar radiation management). It is about controlling the weather, which would lead to control of our water and our food, leading to bankrupting the state (ala fake California drought). Last night I took some horrific videos of this fallout. It was ridiculously thick. There is no way we can survive this. Anyone who is athletic and is training outside is in extreme danger. Children should be kept in on high spray days. If they go out, they should wear a face mask suitable for nanoparticulates. If you do not have an infrared camera, you can see this air crap by taking a powerful flashlight outside and pointing it straight up in the air.
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