To you all benchmark Hoes

[zlcd]

One thing I can never understand what's up with all the benchmark comparison. It's like guys comparing who has the largest ego. Anyway, what's the point of all this, enlighten me, maybe I will get into it. Otherwise it's just looks plain stupid. "Oh, my machine has 16xxx benchmark, what's yours? 17xxx?? Hm... I need upgrade ASAP!"

Is this for gaming? As far as I know (I play all the latest FPS games) there is not even single game that requires all the power of the recent hardware, you can perfectly run games even on 1.5 Ghz machine with plenty of ram and good vid card. If you noticed the minium requirements are 5 or more times lower then the latest hardware.

Conclusion, no one really needs the latest hardware and those benchmarks or overclocking they are just irrelevant things to do for people who have no life.

 

[dhlucke]

That really depends on the game. Your definition of looking good and mine might be very different.

It's amazing how great your graphics look until you see the same game on a better system. Then you realize that the only reason yours looked good before is because you hadn't seen anything better.

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[eden]

Since you said we have no life, I won't answer you! :tongue:

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[CaptainNemo]

I agree with you up to a point - the hordes of people crying their eyes out over their 3DMark 03 scores really do need to get a life.

However, benchmarks do serve a purpose - if I install some CAS 2 memory or overclock my cpu by 150Mhz or overclock my video card or whatever, it is nice to know how much of a difference it makes.

 

[Civilized]

dhlucke, I think you need to eat this guys brain too or have you already ?

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[Grub]

I dunno...I had a LAN yesterday and one of my freinds has a XP2600 with a ATI 9700Pro. I have an XP 1700 and a GF3. His system put mine to shame. THe games loaded faster and the ran much faster on his machine. They looked much better as well. He definately had an advantage.

Let's all settle our political differences with a LAN.

 

[williamc]

It takes a 2.4Ghz+ P4 or equivalent athlon and a GeForce 4 TI 4600 or equivalent Radeon to run C&C Generals at max detail smoothly in 1280x1024 or higher resolution.

He who has the highest framerate does not die so much.

What this had to do with benchmarking i havn't a friggan clue, but it does dispute yer insane idea bout p4 1.5's being sufficient. I just had to upgrade my 1.7 to a 2.53. Holy cow it made a huge difference.

Windows is like a house of cards... One wrong move and it all comes crashing down.

 

[dhlucke]

I'm pretty sure I ate his already. I'm up to 1204 brains.

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[Twitch]

I will admit that benchmarking and upgrading every two months becomes something of an obsession. I hate it when I buy a component--say--a motherboard, and a month later another company releases a new chipset that's 3-5% faster with my processor. Ironically, even if I had the faster motherboard, I might never notice a difference in performance, but my benchmark scores would be higher and that's all that counts!

For the last year or so, I have cooled off substantially in my upgrading and now know there will be a very cool benefit: Next time I upgrade (in three or four months) I will have enough money to buy a high-end motherboard, RAM, processor, and graphics card all at one time, and when I get the system running, I will actually be able to NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE! Unlike my previous upgrades where I was improving performance in such small increments it seemed like I was never upgrading. It's like if you buy all kinds of parts for your Honda Civic and install them to gain and extra 30-40 horse-power compared to saving your money and buying an Acura NSX later.

The benchmarks are great though. I still love 'em. Because of benchmarks, I know that the AMD 3000+ with DDR333 really is about 60% faster than my AMD 1800+. Because of benchmarks, I know that the processor pricing does correlate to overall performance. Because of benchmarking, I know that AMD's speed label (3000+) really does correlate pretty closely to Intel's Pentium in mega-hertz.

Benchmarking tools are awesome for judging the relative performance of different system components, but if you fall into the trap--like I did--of constantly upgrading, you will find yourself poorer and more jaded, and your system will never seem as fast as it really is.

 

[FUGGER]

NFC what your bitching about,

Those of us who methodicly bechmark do it for the notoriety, and enjoy a very high performance system. Bragging rights comes with the territory.

And for what?? well I am sponsored by several manufacturers now and most of the stuff I get for free is unreleased hardware that would cost a bloody fortune to maintain my hardware rotation schedule. I rarely keep a machine a month. most motherboards are pulled apart in less than a week and shelved.

<b>"Granted I dont own a P4. But I read enough stuff and waste enough time on forums newsgroups IRC and computer news sites that I proberly know more then if I DID own a P4." -vk2amv</b>

 

[dhlucke]

Are you allowed to give any of the hardware away? Schools could use it.

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[lhgpoobaa]

Well obviously you dont have a big Epenis.
Thats what benchmarking is all about didn't you know?

The 3dmark2001 number returned is a direct representation of the size and girth of you Epenis.

Im against most synthetic benchmarks, especially 3dmark... but the realistic ones like encoding or gaming ones do have their uses... easier to see which product provides the best bang/buck.
And what sort of gaming experience/ speed it should deliver.

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[Schmide]

Just so you know, "<A HREF="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hoe" target="_new">hoe(s)</A>" are garden instruments,
While "<A HREF="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hos" target="_new">ho(s)</A>" can shake their <A HREF="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=arse" target="_new">arse(s)</A>.

Slang. A prostitute.

African American Vernacular English, alteration of <A HREF="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whore" target="_new">whore</A>

Dichromatic for your viewing plesure...

 

[phial]

who else here thinks fugger is just some fat 45 year old bald guy with an inferiority complex, who has nothing better to do than use his oppressing writing style to make himself look intelligent and superior in computer knowledge?

i could be wrong, but i really dont care lol... you sound like a real asshoole dude.

*prepares for counter flame.. gets pillow for lengthy essay-style read*

=)

 

[ChipDeath]

*Dons Asbestos Suit*
Only a bystander but you can never be too careful!

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[FUGGER]

No need to flame you, as many people feel the love in my posts such as yourself. Im not an [-peep-] in RL, in fact I party hard and very easy going demeanor.

I answered this thread because I am one who benchmarks OC systems and this topic was worth replying too.

Lastly, it sounds like you care and you cannot guess worth a damn.

/shrug I hate long posts, I will skip them all together.



<b>"Granted I dont own a P4. But I read enough stuff and waste enough time on forums newsgroups IRC and computer news sites that I proberly know more then if I DID own a P4." -vk2amv</b>

 

[FUGGER]

I give some stuff away, some stuff gets sent back working and broken.

<b>"Granted I dont own a P4. But I read enough stuff and waste enough time on forums newsgroups IRC and computer news sites that I proberly know more then if I DID own a P4." -vk2amv</b>

 

[phill21]

i love benchmarking personnally, its like one gentleman said in the thread, it gives you bragging rights! Darn straight!!!
i love my setup, but im always trying to make it go faster and not change the hardware, but if you ask me, windows 98 is the best for testing on (in my admittitedly limited experience) but explain this..
Windows 98se scores me a nice 13885 in 3dmark 2001se
Windows XP Pro I cant even get near to 13600 in 3dmark 2001se!! with the same darn hardware! how frustrating is that?
my xp1800 with 512mbs and a nice gigabyte 9700 pro is great, its just needs to be faster.. but my question, but with what?
intel or amd? well this is the question that has plagued mankind for centuries... to intel or not to intel...

if all else fails... kick it and if it goes wrong, say it wasnt you...

 

[phial]

thats just the mental image i got when i read your post Fug-man

 

[Makaveli]

lol I'd spit on a windows 98 CD before putting that OS on my computer. A Very happy windows XP user.

As for williamC. I'm running C&C generals on a 1800+ @ xp2000 (333fsb) @ 1280x960 Haven't seen 1280x1024 in the menu. At high detail on a Radeon 9700 pro. Runs great.
I don't think a P4 2ghz is needed just a good videocard!


My specs
<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=16172" target="_new">http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=16172</A>

 

[phill21]

well, i must admit, xp pro looks better, but seems to slow down my system, like i said, i cant get no where near the performance of my 98 3dmark 2001se score.. something must be up.. and that was with older drivers!
i did some tests when i had 98 installed, in 3dmark 2000/1 i was scoring sometimes 1000 or more points in 98 that i was in xp.. i have no idea why.. im still trying to break the 14k barrier with my system.. i think i need a faster cpu to be honest!


If it blows up? Opps.... I must have been doing something wrong

 

[RaPTuRe]

wow phill21, 285 points between the two. Your right, stick with Win98 so you can 'not notice' the difference between the two (sarcasm).

I mean its nice to be the best, but if you use windows 98 instead of XP for 300 measly points? thats a bit sad.

RaPTuRe

Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?

 

[ChipDeath]

I like 98. It might crash all the time, but:
a) I don't have to f**k about 'activating' it...
b) it <i>is</i> faster
c) XP is <i>not</i> as stable and marvellous as people think...


I work on a win98 PC. It's fairly stable. I've been working on an XP machine for a customer for a couple of weeks, and can honestly say that although my (win98) PC has had to deal with a lot more (Compiling stuff, database crunching, and of course playing mp3s all the time
the XP one has needed rebooting much more often.

Hell, I would've stuck with Win95 if I hadn't needed win98 to install some drivers for something.....

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[phill21]

well since most people go for ice cooling or what have you, i went for a different os
i never said i AM using 98, i said i WAS using 98.
I have xp pro installed which is ok, but i dont like as much as 98...
isnt it ok to have a preference?

If it blows up? Opps.... I must have been doing something wrong

 

[phill21]

isnt it all about bragging rights as well? or well thats what i heard anyway...285 points? its more along the lines of 500 :tongue:

If it blows up? Opps.... I must have been doing something wrong