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February 20, 2003 12:02:07 AM

Hi,

I know that different processors are better/worse at different things but in general am I right in thinking that in most areas a Duron 1200 can be said to be at least on par with a certain level of pentium 3? and if so what speed? i was thinking, looking at endless benchmark tests that my new duron 1200 machine is about the same (at least) a a p3-800?

how do these compare? am i being hopelessly naive?

any help would be much appreciated.

thanks,

sam.

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February 20, 2003 1:50:44 AM

The new core duron, based on the axp core would roughly equal a standard 1.2ghz-1/25 ghz p3. (on the 100fsb) at 133fsb it would equal roughly a 1.35ghz standard p3.(ie not tually)

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February 20, 2003 4:19:17 AM

What are you smocking? Since when Duron started to equal P3?

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February 20, 2003 4:52:38 AM

since the Duron moved up to using the morgan core, which shares inheritance with the palomino core...which is the athlon Xp core, minus some cache. Heck, even the thunderbirds (which the older Duron spitfire core is based on) can beat the pentium 3.

Instead of Rdram, why not just merge 4 Sdram channels...
February 20, 2003 7:19:12 AM

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What are you smocking? Since when Duron started to equal P3?


Since the new core, if your gonna question someone, try to understand the subject before you do so, to avoid such embarassment in the future.

Run along now.

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February 20, 2003 7:19:40 AM

PS: wtf is smocking?

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February 20, 2003 7:29:26 AM

Is it my understanding that the 1300 Duron was rated better than the P4 1.5 by THG? Or was it the Duron 1200? It was in one of those Celeron Vs. Duron things, and it turned out to be a fight between P4 and Duron, not Celeron and Duron.

My Duron 1300 eats P4's for dinner. Oh, the Celerons make a nice snack too.
February 20, 2003 12:16:29 PM

I think he wants to mean that you are smoking hashish!

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>
February 20, 2003 1:17:28 PM

How fast do you run your Duron 1300?

*Dual PIII-800 @900 i440BX and Tualeron 1.2 @1.74 i815*
February 20, 2003 2:24:19 PM

""try to understand the subject before""

As far as it goes it is a know facto to any body (but some of the THG members apparently) that Duron can compete with P3 only in speed of heating the room up, and some benches for FP appys.

""avoid such embarrassment in the future.""

Thank you for an advice.


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February 20, 2003 2:57:54 PM

"Morgan" Duron can beat P3 everywhere. older "Spitfire" Duron was able to beat P3 in everything but SSE optimized apps.

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>
February 20, 2003 3:57:38 PM

A Duron Morgan can easely compete with a P3 when it's multipliers are unlocked ( pencil trick ) and paired with a mobo/memory combo that can support PC2700, just drop the multipliers, set the FSB to 166MHz and there you are.

The lower multipliers lessen the impact of cache size by decreasing the number of cycle between each access to memory. The higher FSB increase the bandwidth the CPU can effectively use when running memory intensive apps. Combine this with SSE instructions and you got yourself a cheap kick ass CPU.

I can't wait to get my hands on some PC3200 2-2-2-5 1T memory, I want to see my Duron 1GHz running on a 200MHz FSB using the 5x multiplier.

A PIII Tualatin would be disadvantaged, even when overclocked. Sure, the 512k L2 helps, but it can't use the bandwidth advantage of DDR and RDRAM.

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February 21, 2003 4:27:39 AM

From my experience I'm guessing a PIII 850, maybe the rare PIII 900E.

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February 21, 2003 6:22:18 AM

I run my Duron 1300 ay 1417 with FSB overclocking as of a week ago. My RAM runs at 145 MHz (PC133).

With a comparable setup, my Duron outperforms the P4 1.6 that my buddy has. From WinXP start-up, to Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000 Pro, to Seti@home. Now that I overclocked (kinda) it should really blow his doors off. My Seti time per work unit went from 5 hours 40 minutes (on average) to 4 hours 55 Minutes (average).

So don't tell me I don't know the information before I post, because I use real world experience about what *I* see, not what somebody tells me.

My Duron 1300 eats P4's for dinner. Oh, the Celerons make a nice snack too.
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February 21, 2003 6:26:54 AM

My Duron experience has mainly been limited to older SDR boards, perhaps you have a better platform? As to your friend's computer, it must really be a sucky configuration.

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February 21, 2003 6:34:30 AM

I'm not sure the mobo, but you may be right about his computer, it came from Dell (with tweaking after he got it).

As for my Mobo:

A-Bit KT7E
KT-133E Chipset
896 MB PC-133 RAM

And of course that damned 686B South Bridge.

My Duron 1300 eats P4's for dinner. Oh, the Celerons make a nice snack too.
February 21, 2003 10:58:06 AM

I am using a Duron 1 GHz with MSI K7N420 Pro (nForce 420-D) [IGP in use] + Dual PC2100 CL2.0 DDR. Mine is surely faster than P3 1 GHz

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February 21, 2003 3:59:19 PM

LOL, he probably got a Willy with SDRAM. My neighbors got a Dell P4 1.3GHz system with 256MB SDRAM, ATI Rage 128 video card, 5400RPM hard drive, etc. because they said my high end PIII 10000 system (Radeon DDR, 7200RPM drive, etc) would have been "too slow"!

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February 21, 2003 4:40:38 PM

rofl!

every component in your list is faster than the P4 system by a long shot, especially the video card and HDD
February 21, 2003 6:32:14 PM

I just bought one and built a machine for my pastor. It is running at 1333MHz. It is an nice machine. I bought the CPU (OEM) for $39 at Newegg.

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February 21, 2003 11:05:33 PM

Erm thanks, but you are all quite clever re: computers but I am not.

Basically, I have bought a Duron 1.2Ghz machine. Is this good or slow? Is it speedwise like a p3-850 then or faster? It's a laptop so I'm not going to do any clever mutiplier trick things.

I was going to get a celeron 1.3Ghz. Is the duron better?
February 21, 2003 11:40:14 PM

Duron is better, just look at THG's reviews of Duron VS. Celerons.

My Duron 1300 eats P4's for dinner. Oh, the Celerons make a nice snack too.
February 22, 2003 3:06:58 AM

I think you'll find the Duron 1200 will whip the pants off a PIII at equal clock speeds. Heck, a D1200 is more like p4 1.6ghz than a PIII

I know it ain't the best benchmark but it's free. Find out for yourself, get a copy of Fresh Diagnose, where you can test your system and see it compared to others.

Download it here: <A HREF="http://www.freshdevices.com/" target="_new">http://www.freshdevices.com/&lt;/A>



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February 22, 2003 9:17:53 AM

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As far as it goes it is a know facto to any body (but some of the THG members apparently) that Duron can compete with P3 only in speed of heating the room up, and some benches for FP appys.


The results are in, your wrong, take your intelfanboyism somewhere else.

The duron is stronger than the coppermine clock for clock, easily, only you cannot see that.

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