Cliffy Dr. Who Mini-Playfield Protector ROCKS

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Got the beta Cliffy protector for Dr. Who's mini playfield installed
and it's AWESOME. Really dresses up that ugly plywood edge. I
understand that the "production version" will be about 1/32nd taller
in the front.

You have to remove the subway channel under the playfield to install
this, but the whole operation is about 15 minutes.

Here's a pic of it installed (from the Dr. Who I'm selling...)

http://www.irelandfamily.com/pinball/drwho/index.html

Thumbs up, completely.

 

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Thanks for lending me your mini pf, Vic. The pics look good! One thing I
slightly worry about is whether or not that piece will get bent up bythe
balls and warp to the point of sticking. Please play the hell out of it
if possible and see what it looks like. I know you're trying to sell the
game and if you do would you please ask the new buyer to test this for
us? As soon as I get some piece of mind about that I'll start making them

Vic Ireland wrote:
> Got the beta Cliffy protector for Dr. Who's mini playfield installed
> and it's AWESOME. Really dresses up that ugly plywood edge. I
> understand that the "production version" will be about 1/32nd taller
> in the front.
>
> You have to remove the subway channel under the playfield to install
> this, but the whole operation is about 15 minutes.
>
> Here's a pic of it installed (from the Dr. Who I'm selling...)
>
> http://www.irelandfamily.com/pinball/drwho/index.html
>
> Thumbs up, completely.

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Vic Ireland thought about it a bit, then said...
> Got the beta Cliffy protector for Dr. Who's mini playfield installed
> and it's AWESOME. Really dresses up that ugly plywood edge. I
> understand that the "production version" will be about 1/32nd taller
> in the front.
>
> You have to remove the subway channel under the playfield to install
> this, but the whole operation is about 15 minutes.
>
> Here's a pic of it installed (from the Dr. Who I'm selling...)
>
> http://www.irelandfamily.com/pinball/drwho/index.html
>
> Thumbs up, completely.

That is excellent. Really looks like it should be there! Before I heard
Cliffy was going to do a protector, I thought about painting that edge
silver. I'm glad I'll be able to get real steel instead. ;-)

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Kevin Steele
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A protector is really needed on the main PF edge where the balls are
shot during multiball.

 

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Wow, nice!

I'm in need of something to protect the thin black metal bar that lies
flat at the entrance to the miniplayfield. Mine has been bent/wrinkled
by balls hitting it over the years, to the point where it is starting
to buckle in several places, creating a ball hangup. (It was hammered
out in the past, but that isn't perfect, as a few lumps will always
remain.)

The front side of the Time Expander wood is just fine on my machine,
surprisingly. It seems that top metal bar has taken the damage for it!

It will be quite a challenge to make a L-shaped protector that goes
over both the front and the top of the miniplayfield wood, to replace
that thin black metal bar. It will have to be extremely thin, because
of the tight clearance around the Time Expander. There's also the
problem of creating a ball hangup on the ledge, if the protector's
metal is too thick.

BTW, what's the specification of the metal used in the existing metal
bar?

Josh
krellan@krellan.c@m

 

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Krellan thought about it a bit, then said...
> Wow, nice!
>
> I'm in need of something to protect the thin black metal bar that lies
> flat at the entrance to the miniplayfield. Mine has been bent/wrinkled
> by balls hitting it over the years, to the point where it is starting
> to buckle in several places, creating a ball hangup. (It was hammered
> out in the past, but that isn't perfect, as a few lumps will always
> remain.)

You can get a replacement metal plate for the Time Expander at Marcos:

http://www.marcospecialties.com/MODERN/Itemdesc.asp?CartId={CD0FF7DF-
EVEREST59A8-41A9-BA32-F5C5BDABD939}&ic=01%2D10650&eq=&Tp=

(alternate URL: http://tinyurl.com/8olxv )

I've got mine held down with double-sided tape.

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Kevin Steele
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Vic Ireland wrote:
> Oh, it DOES happen, it's just hard to do if you're trying. I've
> decided to just unplug it at the correct level and wail on it. That
> way I'll get a 100% hit rate.

That happens _all_ the time on mine! Actually, my "favorite" (no, not
really) shot is to jam a ball between the TE and the regular playfield
while it's going down....


....wait for it....

....wait for it....



*POP!!*

 

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TheKorn@TheKorn.net thought about it a bit, then said...
> Vic Ireland wrote:
> > Oh, it DOES happen, it's just hard to do if you're trying. I've
> > decided to just unplug it at the correct level and wail on it. That
> > way I'll get a 100% hit rate.
>
> That happens _all_ the time on mine! Actually, my "favorite" (no, not
> really) shot is to jam a ball between the TE and the regular playfield
> while it's going down....
>
>
> ...wait for it....
>
> ...wait for it....
>
>
>
> *POP!!*

Never got to the "POP" part - I've only gotten a ball jammed in the
expander holes once as the playfield lowered, and I immediately turned
off the machine. (I wasn't going to risk the playfield motor!)

Kind of amazing that you can get a ball jammed with a thin piece of
metal coming down on the edge of the playfield, but it happens.

--
Kevin Steele
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Nice, thanks!

I'll order me some of those replacement plates.

It would be still great to have a L-shaped protector that could fit in
there somehow, replacing the plate as well as adding the front-side
wood protection.

The reason is that some of the wood down there has been eaten away on
my game, so even if I replace the metal bar on top, there's nothing
really preventing the ball from getting under the bar and wrinkling it
up again. It seems this is a point of high wear on DW games.

Josh
krellan AT krellan * com

 

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That would look super great on my game if my "Time Expander"
WORKED,
Mines been broke for a few months now & its sitting in the corner
covered up =(,,,,

Pin-Del,

 

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Vic Ireland wrote:
> Did you look at the picture? The plate for Dr. Who is ALL ABOUT
> protecting that front edge of the mini playfield. It attaches to the
> underisde of the mini-pf and L's over the front edge to meet the
> bottom of the spring steel from the topside.

He's talking about (somehow) protecting the facing edge along the
regular playfield.

 

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Did you look at the picture? The plate for Dr. Who is ALL ABOUT
protecting that front edge of the mini playfield. It attaches to the
underisde of the mini-pf and L's over the front edge to meet the
bottom of the spring steel from the topside.

On 24 Jun 2005 14:51:33 -0700, "Krellan" <krellan@gmail.com> wrote:

>Nice, thanks!
>
>I'll order me some of those replacement plates.
>
>It would be still great to have a L-shaped protector that could fit in
>there somehow, replacing the plate as well as adding the front-side
>wood protection.
>
>The reason is that some of the wood down there has been eaten away on
>my game, so even if I replace the metal bar on top, there's nothing
>really preventing the ball from getting under the bar and wrinkling it
>up again. It seems this is a point of high wear on DW games.
>
>Josh
>krellan AT krellan * com

 

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Dur. Sorry. With a clearcoated playfield, that wasn't a concern for
me. Didn't even cross my mind.

How can that get chewed up except at the three points where the ball
drops into the dalek holes? That's the only place where I've seen wear
there, and it's always been pretty minor.

On 24 Jun 2005 17:49:07 -0700, "TheKorn@TheKorn.net"
<TheKorn@TheKorn.net> wrote:

>Vic Ireland wrote:
>> Did you look at the picture? The plate for Dr. Who is ALL ABOUT
>> protecting that front edge of the mini playfield. It attaches to the
>> underisde of the mini-pf and L's over the front edge to meet the
>> bottom of the spring steel from the topside.
>
>He's talking about (somehow) protecting the facing edge along the
>regular playfield.

 

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Krellan thought about it a bit, then said...
> Nice, thanks!
>
> I'll order me some of those replacement plates.
>
> It would be still great to have a L-shaped protector that could fit in
> there somehow, replacing the plate as well as adding the front-side
> wood protection.
>
> The reason is that some of the wood down there has been eaten away on
> my game, so even if I replace the metal bar on top, there's nothing
> really preventing the ball from getting under the bar and wrinkling it
> up again. It seems this is a point of high wear on DW games.
>
> Josh
> krellan AT krellan * com

Hmmm...a "C-shaped" metal protector on that edge of the main playfield
might be pretty handy (I've got wear on the edges where the balls go
into the time expander). Only problem I see is the chance for airballs,
but I'd guess that's pretty minor.

Don't know if it would cause "metal on metal" scraping when the expander
rises, though...

--
Kevin Steele
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Cliffy - It looks fantastic! - When your comfortable - sign me up for
one.

My front edge was beat so badly, I used the JB weld technique from the
TOP videos, to replace the pieces of wood that fell out around the T
nuts.

Then I ended up painting it white - it looks better than the unfinished
plywood -but the stainless will certainly look better than both, and
help prevent it falling apart again.

------------------------------------------------------------

The main problem is both sides suffer from wear - but there is
barely enough room for one protector in that area, let alone two.

I think Cliffy is on the better track with protecting the edge, that
can be directly smashed by the ball.

The drop off wear on the main playfield edge will probably have to be
dealt
with by non-protector methods, like the JB Weld repair.

--You can also obtain the playfield edge steel from BAA - I used
Gorilla glue to hold mine down, I have doubts on how long tape will
hold up in this area.

 

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Sorry to drift OT, but have you American chappies had the new series of
Dr Who yet? Series one has just finished in England and it's really
jolly good. Daleks are back too!

Gives the pinball a whole new lease of life!

Keith



Kevin Steele wrote:
> Krellan thought about it a bit, then said...
> > Nice, thanks!
> >
> > I'll order me some of those replacement plates.
> >
> > It would be still great to have a L-shaped protector that could fit in
> > there somehow, replacing the plate as well as adding the front-side
> > wood protection.
> >
> > The reason is that some of the wood down there has been eaten away on
> > my game, so even if I replace the metal bar on top, there's nothing
> > really preventing the ball from getting under the bar and wrinkling it
> > up again. It seems this is a point of high wear on DW games.
> >
> > Josh
> > krellan AT krellan * com
>
> Hmmm...a "C-shaped" metal protector on that edge of the main playfield
> might be pretty handy (I've got wear on the edges where the balls go
> into the time expander). Only problem I see is the chance for airballs,
> but I'd guess that's pretty minor.
>
> Don't know if it would cause "metal on metal" scraping when the expander
> rises, though...
>
> --
> Kevin Steele
> RetroBlast! Retrogaming News and Reviews
> www.retroblast.com

 

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No we haven't! Someone else was telling me theres a new doctor and
the daleks are back... sigh. Probably be 5 years before we see them here
unless they go to dvd.

Yorkshire Pudding wrote:
> Sorry to drift OT, but have you American chappies had the new series of
> Dr Who yet? Series one has just finished in England and it's really
> jolly good. Daleks are back too!
>
> Gives the pinball a whole new lease of life!
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> Kevin Steele wrote:
>
>>Krellan thought about it a bit, then said...
>>
>>>Nice, thanks!
>>>
>>>I'll order me some of those replacement plates.
>>>
>>>It would be still great to have a L-shaped protector that could fit in
>>>there somehow, replacing the plate as well as adding the front-side
>>>wood protection.
>>>
>>>The reason is that some of the wood down there has been eaten away on
>>>my game, so even if I replace the metal bar on top, there's nothing
>>>really preventing the ball from getting under the bar and wrinkling it
>>>up again. It seems this is a point of high wear on DW games.
>>>
>>>Josh
>>>krellan AT krellan * com
>>
>>Hmmm...a "C-shaped" metal protector on that edge of the main playfield
>>might be pretty handy (I've got wear on the edges where the balls go
>>into the time expander). Only problem I see is the chance for airballs,
>>but I'd guess that's pretty minor.
>>
>>Don't know if it would cause "metal on metal" scraping when the expander
>>rises, though...
>>
>>--
>>Kevin Steele
>>RetroBlast! Retrogaming News and Reviews
>>www.retroblast.com
>
>

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It's been released on region 2 DVD (search Amazon.co.uk for Dr Who),
I'm sure some enterprising people will be making it available very soon
on your side of the pond!

Keith

 

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Yorkshire Pudding thought about it a bit, then said...
> Sorry to drift OT, but have you American chappies had the new series of
> Dr Who yet? Series one has just finished in England and it's really
> jolly good. Daleks are back too!
>
> Gives the pinball a whole new lease of life!
>
> Keith

Been watching it via the Bittorrent network ;-)

You're right - the new Dr. Who is excellent, in many ways better than
it's ever been (especially the special effects and sets, but even the
acting and stories are, to quote Eccleston, "Fanstastic!")

Now I've just got to figure out how to modify my translite to include
the new Doctors...

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Sorry about that. From the photo, I didn't know the protector plate
already has a "L" design in it. That's great!

The reason I need that "L" is to help reinforce both the front face and
the top face of the Time Expander's miniplayfield. I thought the
existing protector was just to go over the front face, which would
leave a point of weakness right along the edge at which the front and
top faces meet. Mine's chipped away because of this. (It still
mechanically works great, though, the previous owner took excellent
care of it!)

The main playfield on my game appears to be just fine. I haven't
noticed any wear there at all (although I haven't really looked that
closely).

And yes, I have seen the new UK episodes with the 9th Doctor
They'll need to make a new game...

Josh