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Anonymous
August 8, 2005 8:34:02 PM

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Hi Everyone

I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application hangs
on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use System
Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the object if
the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from the
system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's time
restoring the system.

If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most grateful.
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 10:40:54 PM

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Outlook Express Specific Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/mi­crosoft.public.windows.inetexp­lorer.ie6_outlookexpress


regards,
ssg MS-MVP

Neil UK wrote:

> Hi Everyone
>
> I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application hangs
> on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use System
> Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the object if
> the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from the
> system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's time
> restoring the system.
>
> If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most grateful.
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 5:02:03 AM

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Thank you for giving me this. But when I tried it, a box came up saying "411,
no such newsgroup". I have found in Kelly's extensive Korner a link to an
Outlook Forum, but not OE. Forgive me for asking, but have you spelled the
link correctly?

"S.Sengupta" wrote:

> Outlook Express Specific Newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/mi­crosoft.public.windows.inetexp­lorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>
>
> regards,
> ssg MS-MVP
>
> Neil UK wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application hangs
> > on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use System
> > Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the object if
> > the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from the
> > system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's time
> > restoring the system.
> >
> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most grateful.
>
Related resources
August 9, 2005 6:05:33 AM

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How interesting....

What are the programs in question, is this only for an install that needs a
reboot, are these programs directly related to either IE or OE and is OE the
only program that shows this type of behavior?
--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com



"Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4427131F-6D9D-482D-B5AC-6859A52029DA@microsoft.com...
> Hi Everyone
>
> I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> hangs
> on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use
> System
> Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the object
> if
> the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from
> the
> system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's
> time
> restoring the system.
>
> If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> grateful.
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 6:05:34 AM

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Hi Kelly

Thank you for your interest. The most frequent sort of download that
requires a reboot is Norton Internet Security 2005. However, I think this
could occur with any other download requiring a reboot. At the moment, I am
not even certain that the problem could not occur with just an ordinary
reboot. If I have the time available, I will try a standard reboot for no
reason at all and see if that gives the same problem. OE is the only program
giving this sort of problem, and only the problem I have already described.

The challenge will come today, August 9, which is the publication date for
Windows Update's latest fixes.

"Kelly" wrote:

> How interesting....
>
> What are the programs in question, is this only for an install that needs a
> reboot, are these programs directly related to either IE or OE and is OE the
> only program that shows this type of behavior?
> --
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
>
> "Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4427131F-6D9D-482D-B5AC-6859A52029DA@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> > hangs
> > on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use
> > System
> > Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the object
> > if
> > the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from
> > the
> > system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's
> > time
> > restoring the system.
> >
> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> > grateful.
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 7:00:26 AM

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This may help http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/WinsockxpFix.zip

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"Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4427131F-6D9D-482D-B5AC-6859A52029DA@microsoft.com...
> Hi Everyone
>
> I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> hangs
> on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use
> System
> Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the object
> if
> the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from
> the
> system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's
> time
> restoring the system.
>
> If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> grateful.
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 7:37:15 AM

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Did that happen when you clicked the link?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email

"Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E159F23D-C9EF-4D68-8A72-D55893A741BE@microsoft.com
> Thank you for giving me this. But when I tried it, a box came up
> saying "411, no such newsgroup". I have found in Kelly's extensive
> Korner a link to an Outlook Forum, but not OE. Forgive me for asking,
> but have you spelled the link correctly?
>
> "S.Sengupta" wrote:
>
>> Outlook Express Specific Newsgroup:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/mi­crosoft.public.windows.inetexp­lorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 8:01:25 AM

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Winsockxpfix isn't needed in SP2, butts.

pcbutts1 wrote:
> This may help http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/WinsockxpFix.zip
>
>
> "Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4427131F-6D9D-482D-B5AC-6859A52029DA@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> > hangs
> > on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use
> > System
> > Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the
> > object if
> > the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from
> > the
> > system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's
> > time
> > restoring the system.
> >
> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> > grateful.
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 8:02:40 AM

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1. Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

<paste>
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
</paste>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002...

2. Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default Main
Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
(File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import messages
from the old Identity before deleting it (File>Identities>Manage
Identities).

To avoid such corruption in future:

Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a manual
compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.

Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).

Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
OE6-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
OE General newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP

Neil UK wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> hangs on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to
> use System Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats
> the object if the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is
> removed from the system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot
> spend all one's time restoring the system.
>
> If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> grateful.
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 8:02:41 AM

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Thank you, I will certainly try these fixes. I will let you know what happens.

"PA Bear" wrote:

> 1. Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
> additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>
> <paste>
> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
> the most recent virus definitions.
> </paste>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002...
>
> 2. Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default Main
> Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
> (File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import messages
> from the old Identity before deleting it (File>Identities>Manage
> Identities).
>
> To avoid such corruption in future:
>
> Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> folders created for this purpose.
>
> Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>
> Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a manual
> compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.
>
> Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
> Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).
>
> Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
> corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
> --
> OE6-specific newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> OE General newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
>
> Neil UK wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> > hangs on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to
> > use System Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats
> > the object if the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is
> > removed from the system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot
> > spend all one's time restoring the system.
> >
> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> > grateful.
>
>
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 2:22:02 PM

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Thank you both. The copy-and-paste of the URL introduced two unnecessary
hyphens which screwed me up badly. I now have the website for OE Forum. Sorry.
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" wrote:
> Did that happen when you clicked the link?
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
> Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
>
> "Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E159F23D-C9EF-4D68-8A72-D55893A741BE@microsoft.com
> > Thank you for giving me this. But when I tried it, a box came up
> > saying "411, no such newsgroup". I have found in Kelly's extensive
> > Korner a link to an Outlook Forum, but not OE. Forgive me for asking,
> > but have you spelled the link correctly?
> >
> > "S.Sengupta" wrote:
> >
> >> Outlook Express Specific Newsgroup:
> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com/mi­crosoft.public.windows.inetexp­lorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>
>
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 3:02:18 PM

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So now I had the time to to what we would say in England is a "bog" standard
reboot after a long day's work when I didn't dare interfere. The word is
serendipity but it might have been reverse serendipity in my case: I did a
standard reboot and, naturally when the reboot was finished, would you belive
it (yes you would) but Windows Update was downloading all this new stuff. So
I installed it, and rebooted (you don't really have a choice, do you?) And,
wonder of wonders, my OE opened with no problems.

Well, until the next time, that is ---- Watch this space.

"Kelly" wrote:

> How interesting....
>
> What are the programs in question, is this only for an install that needs a
> reboot, are these programs directly related to either IE or OE and is OE the
> only program that shows this type of behavior?
> --
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
>
> "Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4427131F-6D9D-482D-B5AC-6859A52029DA@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> > hangs
> > on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use
> > System
> > Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the object
> > if
> > the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from
> > the
> > system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's
> > time
> > restoring the system.
> >
> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> > grateful.
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 6:22:26 PM

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FWIW this was posted in another MS newsgroup today:

<QP>
By any chance do you have Norton Internet Security on your computer ??? If
you do they had a problem last week with one of their live updates that
messed up the firewall configuration. Once this occurs you will no longer be
able to send or receive E-Mail or possibly utilize your browser. If you do
have Norton Internet Security on your computer you will need to reset your
firewall rules. Go to the Symantec website and do a search of their
Knowledgebase for a step by step procedure.
</QP>
--
~PA Bear

Neil UK wrote:
> Thank you, I will certainly try these fixes. I will let you know what
> happens.
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> 1. Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
>> additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>
>> <paste>
>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>> that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
>> scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including
>> email
>> and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of
>> this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection,
>> keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
>> have the most recent virus definitions.
>> </paste>
>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002...
>>
>> 2. Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default
>> Main
>> Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
>> (File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import
>> messages
>> from the old Identity before deleting it (File>Identities>Manage
>> Identities).
>>
>> To avoid such corruption in future:
>>
>> Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>> folders created for this purpose.
>>
>> Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>
>> Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a
>> manual
>> compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
>> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.
>>
>> Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>> Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).
>>
>> Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
>> corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
>> --
>> OE6-specific newsgroup:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>> OE General newsgroup:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
>>
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
>>
>> Neil UK wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone
>>>
>>> I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
>>> downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
>>> afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
>>> hangs on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to
>>> use System Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes
>>> defeats
>>> the object if the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is
>>> removed from the system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot
>>> spend all one's time restoring the system.
>>>
>>> If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
>>> grateful.
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 8:25:59 PM

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Why not.

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"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e%23ccKiLnFHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Winsockxpfix isn't needed in SP2, butts.
>
> pcbutts1 wrote:
>> This may help http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/WinsockxpFix.zip
>>
>>
>> "Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4427131F-6D9D-482D-B5AC-6859A52029DA@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Everyone
>> >
>> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
>> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
>> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
>> > hangs
>> > on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use
>> > System
>> > Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the
>> > object if
>> > the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from
>> > the
>> > system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's
>> > time
>> > restoring the system.
>> >
>> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
>> > grateful.
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 10:47:19 PM

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pcbutts1 wrote:

> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Winsockxpfix isn't needed in SP2, butts.
>
> Why not.
>
Hi,

Because you can use the command "netsh.exe winsock reset" instead.

Here is what I post to users that have WinXP SP2 and where I
suspect that they have a winsock issue:


<quote>

Please try this:

Start/Run --> cmd.exe

and then, in the command prompt that opened up, type:

netsh.exe winsock reset

and hit Enter. Follow prompts and reboot.


After resetting winsock you should re-install any applications which
are layered service providers (lsp). typical apps of this nature are
firewalls and anti-virus/anti-spyware.

</quote>


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Anonymous
August 12, 2005 7:57:05 AM

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I said I would get back to you: I switched off the email scanning. I also
attempted to use your advice on creating a new identity. Frankly, without
your expertise, that exercise created such confusion that I found it
necessary to use System Restore to go back to yesterday.

Ultimately, the monthly Windows Update was downloaded and installed. After
rebooting I had no problems with email connecting hang.

Then I checked Norton Live Update and found that the security downloads that
I had installed previously were now (because of System Restore, I presume)
back in space waiting to be downloaded and installed a second time. So I did,
and then rebooted and then the email system hung on Connecting.

So I bit the bullet and uninstalled NIS 2005, plus Live Update plus Norton
Security Centre. I then spent a long time reinstalling NIS 2005, followed by
downloading 38MB of general updates, which were also installed. After a
reboot, there was no problem. Everything worked fine.

My regards and thanks to all who answered this thread.

"PA Bear" wrote:

> 1. Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
> additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>
> <paste>
> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
> the most recent virus definitions.
> </paste>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002...
>
> 2. Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default Main
> Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
> (File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import messages
> from the old Identity before deleting it (File>Identities>Manage
> Identities).
>
> To avoid such corruption in future:
>
> Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> folders created for this purpose.
>
> Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>
> Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a manual
> compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.
>
> Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
> Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).
>
> Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
> corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
> --
> OE6-specific newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> OE General newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
>
> Neil UK wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> > hangs on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to
> > use System Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats
> > the object if the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is
> > removed from the system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot
> > spend all one's time restoring the system.
> >
> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> > grateful.
>
>
Anonymous
August 13, 2005 1:09:38 AM

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Recent NIS (and, dare I say, NAV) updates have created a massive amount of
problems for many users, Neil.

YW. /Hopefully/ you've kept Email Protection disabled.
--
~PA Bear


Neil UK wrote:
> I said I would get back to you: I switched off the email scanning. I also
> attempted to use your advice on creating a new identity. Frankly, without
> your expertise, that exercise created such confusion that I found it
> necessary to use System Restore to go back to yesterday.
>
> Ultimately, the monthly Windows Update was downloaded and installed. After
> rebooting I had no problems with email connecting hang.
>
> Then I checked Norton Live Update and found that the security downloads
> that I had installed previously were now (because of System Restore, I
> presume) back in space waiting to be downloaded and installed a second
> time. So I did, and then rebooted and then the email system hung on
> Connecting.
>
> So I bit the bullet and uninstalled NIS 2005, plus Live Update plus Norton
> Security Centre. I then spent a long time reinstalling NIS 2005, followed
> by downloading 38MB of general updates, which were also installed. After a
> reboot, there was no problem. Everything worked fine.
>
> My regards and thanks to all who answered this thread.
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
> > 1. Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides
> > no additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
> >
> > <paste>
> > Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
> > that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus
> > Auto-Protect scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive,
> > including email and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another
> > layer on top of this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the
> > maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate
> > regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus definitions.
> > </paste>
> > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002...
> >
> > 2. Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default
> > Main Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
> > (File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import
> > messages from the old Identity before deleting it
> > (File>Identities>Manage Identities).
> >
> > To avoid such corruption in future:
> >
> > Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> > folders created for this purpose.
> >
> > Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
> >
> > Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a
> > manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
> > http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.
> >
> > Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
> > Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).
> >
> > Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
> > corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
> > --
> > OE6-specific newsgroup:
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> > OE General newsgroup:
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
> >
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
> >
> > Neil UK wrote:
> > > Hi Everyone
> > >
> > > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> > > hangs on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to
> > > use System Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes
> > > defeats the object if the download was, for instance, a Windows
> > > update, which is removed from the system after the restoration.
> > > Besides which one cannot spend all one's time restoring the system.
> > >
> > > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> > > grateful.
August 14, 2005 5:34:05 AM

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Hi Neil,

Serendipity and may I add: Chagrin, I think are seldom used words that do
have a lot to say. :o )

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com



"Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EAA12DB5-5718-48CC-9624-D866B1FF4C55@microsoft.com...
> So now I had the time to to what we would say in England is a "bog"
> standard
> reboot after a long day's work when I didn't dare interfere. The word is
> serendipity but it might have been reverse serendipity in my case: I did a
> standard reboot and, naturally when the reboot was finished, would you
> belive
> it (yes you would) but Windows Update was downloading all this new stuff.
> So
> I installed it, and rebooted (you don't really have a choice, do you?)
> And,
> wonder of wonders, my OE opened with no problems.
>
> Well, until the next time, that is ---- Watch this space.
>
> "Kelly" wrote:
>
>> How interesting....
>>
>> What are the programs in question, is this only for an install that needs
>> a
>> reboot, are these programs directly related to either IE or OE and is OE
>> the
>> only program that shows this type of behavior?
>> --
>>
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4427131F-6D9D-482D-B5AC-6859A52029DA@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Everyone
>> >
>> > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
>> > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
>> > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
>> > hangs
>> > on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to use
>> > System
>> > Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes defeats the
>> > object
>> > if
>> > the download was, for instance, a Windows update, which is removed from
>> > the
>> > system after the restoration. Besides which one cannot spend all one's
>> > time
>> > restoring the system.
>> >
>> > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
>> > grateful.
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
August 17, 2005 11:37:01 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

To complete the picture -- Yup, I disabled the email scanner, but it refuses
to believe me and goes on merrily scanning them even though turned off. So,
go figure.

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Recent NIS (and, dare I say, NAV) updates have created a massive amount of
> problems for many users, Neil.
>
> YW. /Hopefully/ you've kept Email Protection disabled.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> Neil UK wrote:
> > I said I would get back to you: I switched off the email scanning. I also
> > attempted to use your advice on creating a new identity. Frankly, without
> > your expertise, that exercise created such confusion that I found it
> > necessary to use System Restore to go back to yesterday.
> >
> > Ultimately, the monthly Windows Update was downloaded and installed. After
> > rebooting I had no problems with email connecting hang.
> >
> > Then I checked Norton Live Update and found that the security downloads
> > that I had installed previously were now (because of System Restore, I
> > presume) back in space waiting to be downloaded and installed a second
> > time. So I did, and then rebooted and then the email system hung on
> > Connecting.
> >
> > So I bit the bullet and uninstalled NIS 2005, plus Live Update plus Norton
> > Security Centre. I then spent a long time reinstalling NIS 2005, followed
> > by downloading 38MB of general updates, which were also installed. After a
> > reboot, there was no problem. Everything worked fine.
> >
> > My regards and thanks to all who answered this thread.
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides
> > > no additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
> > >
> > > <paste>
> > > Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
> > > that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus
> > > Auto-Protect scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive,
> > > including email and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another
> > > layer on top of this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the
> > > maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate
> > > regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus definitions.
> > > </paste>
> > > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002...
> > >
> > > 2. Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default
> > > Main Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
> > > (File>Identities>Add new identity). Assuming all is well, import
> > > messages from the old Identity before deleting it
> > > (File>Identities>Manage Identities).
> > >
> > > To avoid such corruption in future:
> > >
> > > Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> > > folders created for this purpose.
> > >
> > > Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
> > >
> > > Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a
> > > manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
> > > http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.
> > >
> > > Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
> > > Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).
> > >
> > > Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
> > > corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
> > > --
> > > OE6-specific newsgroup:
> > > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> > > OE General newsgroup:
> > > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
> > >
> > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
> > >
> > > Neil UK wrote:
> > > > Hi Everyone
> > > >
> > > > I am operating a Sony Vaio laptop XP SP2. Recently, whenever I have
> > > > downloaded anything that requires the system to be rebooted, I find
> > > > afterwaards on attempting to open Outlook Express that the application
> > > > hangs on "Connecting". The only way I have found to correct this is to
> > > > use System Restore back one or two days. Naturally this sometimes
> > > > defeats the object if the download was, for instance, a Windows
> > > > update, which is removed from the system after the restoration.
> > > > Besides which one cannot spend all one's time restoring the system.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone can advise me how to address this issue, I should be most
> > > > grateful.
>
>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 6:14:05 PM

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"Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C1422001-FC81-410A-98D2-9DFF472B6C8A@microsoft.com
> To complete the picture -- Yup, I disabled the email scanner, but it
> refuses to believe me and goes on merrily scanning them even though
> turned off. So, go figure.

I'd say it's time to dump Norton and get something that works.

I use AVG for an anti-virus and the Windows Firewall.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 6:14:06 PM

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Thanks Frank for the information about AVG, about which I knew nothing. I
have seen it now and will investigate.

The problem with all of these programs is that they deal only with a part of
the problem. Norton, as in NIS, gives one an integrated shot at handling all
problems at once. Not perfect, but trying hard.

So what do you want? This program for AV, that program for firewall, some
third program covering another angle and so on? I know that is the way some
people handle the problems of security: mix and match. But as just an average
user, I don't want 4 different programs, I want one that tackles everything
from soup to nuts.

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE" wrote:

> "Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C1422001-FC81-410A-98D2-9DFF472B6C8A@microsoft.com
> > To complete the picture -- Yup, I disabled the email scanner, but it
> > refuses to believe me and goes on merrily scanning them even though
> > turned off. So, go figure.
>
> I'd say it's time to dump Norton and get something that works.
>
> I use AVG for an anti-virus and the Windows Firewall.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
> Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Protect your PC
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 11:32:10 PM

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"Neil UK" <NeilUK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E02839ED-4A41-4BE3-B3CE-28F064E05A89@microsoft.com
> Thanks Frank for the information about AVG, about which I knew
> nothing. I have seen it now and will investigate.
>
> The problem with all of these programs is that they deal only with a
> part of the problem. Norton, as in NIS, gives one an integrated shot
> at handling all problems at once. Not perfect, but trying hard.
>
> So what do you want? This program for AV, that program for firewall,
> some third program covering another angle and so on? I know that is
> the way some people handle the problems of security: mix and match.
> But as just an average user, I don't want 4 different programs, I
> want one that tackles everything from soup to nuts.
>
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE" wrote:
>
>> I'd say it's time to dump Norton and get something that works.
>>
>> I use AVG for an anti-virus and the Windows Firewall.

Norton is also bloated and has hooks so deep into the operating system that
it often causes problems.

Microsoft Anti-Spyware is pretty good for spyyware, but you should also use
Ad-Aware and Spybot S &D, although only one of the three should be resident.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
!