Best XP for OCing

[JonB]

What's the best Athlon XP for OCing? Best bang for buck?

"Consiousness of the past alone
can make us understand the present" - Herbert Luethy

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

AMD Athlon XP 1700+ JIUHB Core Stepping week 02 of '03 Thoroughbred 'B'

so...

AXDA1700DUL3C (or something similar to this)
JIUH<b>B</b> 0302 (The letter 'B' at the end is a MUST)

Thats what your looking for on the little sticker on the CPU....

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[Spitfire_x86]

AFAIK, it's AIGUB instead of JIUHB

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

No no.....
the JIUHB is the core to get....

the AIGUB is the pre-decessor of the JIUHB IIRC.....

The AIGUB will work to as it is a T-Bred 'B'.....i just heard more about the JIUHB.....

theres ppl. here with there JIUHB 1700+ @ 2.4GHz and such...

id have mine that high but my motherboard is absolute crap for high-end overclocking......

but right now if not having any trouble at 1940MHz with default voltage.....28 degrees celcious at full load....i cat complain for $109 CDN......roughly a 500MHz Overclock.....

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[Spitfire_x86]

So both AIGUB and JIUHB are T-bred "B"? And JIUHB is a newer T-berd "B"?

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[JonB]

What?? You can OC a 1700+ that much? What could you do with say, a 2400+?

"Consiousness of the past alone
can make us understand the present" - Herbert Luethy

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

That is correct......

I just checked the CPU Database over at <A HREF="http://www.overclockers.com/" target="_new">Overclockers</A> and I was right...the newest/best T-Bred 'B' core is the JIUHB 0302........... best 1700+ Overclock there is something like 2700 sum odd Mhz.........

Yes the AIGUB is a T-Bred 'B'.....the letter B at the end of the 5th digit on the 2nd lien indicates its a T-Bred 'B'...... most AIGUB's seem to be 0251 CPU's....so Week 51 of 2002......which indeed is older than 0302.....

Just like my T-Bred 1800+....

its core is AIUGA 0249....so its a T-Bred 'A' and a week 49 CPU from 2002......

Examples....

<b>My 1700+ T-Bred 'B':</b>
AXDA1700<b>DUT</b>3C
JIUH<b>B</b> 0302

<b>My 1800+ T-Bred 'A':</b>
AXDA1800<b>DLT</b>3C
AIUG<b>A</b> 0249

Notice the stuff in bold......i havent 100% verified this but it seems to hold true....a T-Bred 'B' will have the letters 'DUT' following its Designation (1700, 1800, 1900, etc.) It will also have the letter 'B' as the 5th digit on the 2nd line of the CPU.......

A T-Bred 'A' will have the letters 'DLT' following its designation (1700, 1800, 1900, etc.) it will also have the letter 'A' as the 5th digit on the 2nd line of the CPU.......

These are indications as to what u have.....

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[MeTaLrOcKeR]

In some instances or in most cases ppl. get about 2.1 - 2.3Ghz out of there 1700+....many things factor into this...

Motherboard (quality, chipset, etc.), Ram (Quality, type, etc.) and Cooling....aswell as stepping of CPU.....remember not all CPU's OC the exact same.....

as for the 2400+ there is no gaurantee that the 2400+ will overclock just as much as a 1700+...remember...in percentage wise anyways.......if a 2400+ can OC to 2.4Ghz thats a 400Mhz Overclock.....If a 1700+ can OC to 2.4Ghz thats roughly a 1000Mhz Overclock.....thats a BIG difference....if say that with a 2400+ u prolly have a better chance of getting 2.4Ghz than with a 1700+ but than again theres no gaurantee that either will do either speed.....esentially id say AMD is making 1 CPU right now (not including the Barton core).....there producign awesoem yields for the 2800+ so they just reprint all there other CPU's as 1700+, 1800+, 1900+, 2000+, 2100+, 2200+, 2400+, etc. etc.

So really my $50 US 1700+ is the exact same CPU as that $300 2800+ the next guy just baught........remember this is not actual...but it DOES indeed explain a lot...like how 95% of peoples T-Bred 'B' CPU regardless of Speed designation (1700, 1800, etc.) in MHz r hitting AT LEAST 2600+ and higher speeds...

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[JonB]

Off the top of your head, do you know where I could get one of those 1700s? Also, could anyone reccommend a good beginner's guide to OC'ing? I know some terms, but I don't know the procedure. Thx

"Consiousness of the past alone
can make us understand the present" - Herbert Luethy

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

Well that all depends on whether or not your going to buy from ur local store or from the Net.....

Where are you from ??

I live near Toronto, Canada...and i baught mine from my local store for only $109 CDN......

as for on the net...I hear that <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/" target="_new">Newegg</A> has them........

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[JonB]

There aren't any really great computer stores locally in WA state. I'm thinking about buying off the web, but for some reason, NewEgg won't load right now, so I looked on TigerDirect. Is this it? <A HREF="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=CP1-XP1700TB" target="_new">http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=CP1-XP1700TB</A>
Also, being a student, I can't afford a new system quite yet. Is this particular CPU going to be available for awhile yet?

"Consiousness of the past alone
can make us understand the present" - Herbert Luethy

 

[kimbahpnam]

if you got overclockers.com i'm sure most everyone will say the XP 2100 Tbred B AIUHB 0250+. most people get up to 2.4+ghz on these bad boys w/ air cooling

 

[lwj81]

<A HREF="http://www.excaliberpc.com" target="_new">http://www.excaliberpc.com</A> has the 0302 and 0307 1700xp b cores in stock.