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sargeduck   03-01-2003 at 04:05:19 AM

I have an economics project coming up,and I need some help. The project focuses on a very popular web site, such as cnn.com, google, ebay, the likes with lots of downloads, such as streaming video and such. Their current server is dated, and customers have noticed a very big slowdown on the website, due to the increased traffic. People are now going to the competition, such as nbc.com, yahoo....

The Questions are:
1)What type of server would this company currently be using? Itanium, Xeon, IBM...

2)what would it cost them to completely upgrade it to, say, the newest Itanium, or Opteron? My prof isn't picky on the prices, if you could give me a ball park figure, somewhere in the range for this upgrade. I have no idea what an entirely new Itanium system would cost.

3)Any idea for a salvage value for the DATED server. Again, just a ballpark figure for an old server of your choice.

I was just using the above companies as examples. The project focuses on whether it is economically feasable for this company to upgrade to keep it's viewers happy.

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juin   03-01-2003 at 05:45:01 AM
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what is you need wich software i dont think you need the power on a Itanium as Nec sever give around 1/2 million secure transaction per seconds on normal small load maybefew million

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dave326   03-02-2003 at 02:29:01 AM
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I think your talking about bandwith, since unless it is a real POS server it would probably handle the requests. The downloads you are talking about would be what is causing the slowdown, not the servers inability to process it(This is why you see mirror sites for downloading things, so the main site won't slow down). The bandwith is what would affect the site the most. As for bandwith and transfer costs at the level of CNN, I have no Idea. I know SETI @ home has 30mb per second and it costs roughly 18000 dollars a month. CNN would use much, much more than that. Not sure on the specifics, so look up the bandwith pricing and usage figures a site like that would use.

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LtBlue14   03-02-2003 at 02:49:49 AM
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i'm just gonna go ahead and second what dave said, so you don't think he's the only one who thinks that...
it's gonna be the bandwidth that kills the server when lots of people download, unless, as he said, the server is really bad and can't process information as fast as its connection speed (even if the information is going at 1 GB/s, any decent server can handle it with ease)

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sargeduck   03-02-2003 at 03:07:42 AM
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ok, fair enough. It's easy enough for me to change.
speculation here, does anyone know what type of connection it would require? keep in mind it is a theoritical company that needs to upgrade, the whole point of the project:) Are we talking a direct fiber optic line? I wonder what the price would be.



Gee, for 18000 a month. I wonder what your ping for counter-strike would be with that type of connection?

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Crashman   03-02-2003 at 03:36:54 AM
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1.) I doubt older companies that are internet based would be running too many Itanium machines as many of these sights most likely just keep adding more and more machines, more and more connections. I would think maybe some kind of Sun server? Or multiple Xeon servers of various speeds depending on the age of that part of the network?

2.) Do any of these companies upgrade everything at once? I doubt it!

3.) Nothing, or close to it. I've seen companies PAY to get rid of 5 year old equipement. Many keep it until it's no longer relavent to anything before they upgrade. This would explain the number of used SCSI drives and Xeon processors floating around the internet for very little money.

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