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May 11, 2010 11:51:23 PM

I have a question...

I found a deal on deals2buy.com today and i'm wondering if it is worth it.

if you buy Klipsch HD 500 5.1 Theater system for 599.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you get ONKYO 7.1-Channel Receiver TX-SR508 for free:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the receiver alone is like 350 dollars...


this seems like an amazing deal.. or am I just star-struck because i want it so bad?

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May 14, 2010 4:52:19 PM

moltar512 said:
I have a question...

I found a deal on deals2buy.com today and i'm wondering if it is worth it.

if you buy Klipsch HD 500 5.1 Theater system for 599.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you get ONKYO 7.1-Channel Receiver TX-SR508 for free:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the receiver alone is like 350 dollars...


this seems like an amazing deal.. or am I just star-struck because i want it so bad?


compulsive obsessive, if it sounds too good to be true...
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May 14, 2010 11:27:38 PM

thanks for your reply.. hahaha.. i've been checking this off and on for a while.. glad someone answered :)  :)  :) 
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May 14, 2010 11:27:49 PM

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May 14, 2010 11:46:24 PM

amazon sells the same system for $474. but if they are giving you an onkyo free, is it a NEW one, or a returned one? One may wonder why they are so desperate to sell it? Probably cause no one wants to buy it. Now klipsch really is a good brand, but is that what you really want? I won't even consider a subwoofer unless it's 15". Little subs don't have much bass, after all. If the front side rear is not at least a 10" woofer, It wont sound like much. And you might as well buy 3 sets of powered computer speakers, cause that's about what you are getting for $599.
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May 14, 2010 11:52:35 PM

Imagine the overwhelming power, ripping out of those 2.5 inch midrange speakers, almost as powerful as your am car radio (but not quite).
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May 15, 2010 6:26:45 PM

im sure the 2.5inch mids will perform just fine.
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May 15, 2010 7:28:43 PM

The tendency of reducing midrange speaker size, and hyping the price up at the same time is disheartening. That size speaker can certainly not perform below 1500 cps efficiently, although it starts to make a good tweeter up to about 12,000 cps. So really in that type of design there is no appreciable midrange. Not anything that you could call flat reproduction anyway. It really doesn't sound much better than the average $70 computer speakers.
The trend to put $10 speakers in plastic cabinets and charge $600 for them is depressing to real hi fi. I can find better sounding speakers to build a surround system at garage sales.
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May 16, 2010 10:16:39 AM

you never know the excursion may be relaly good on the 2.5s you cant decide on jsut the driver size

did yuou know that the harmon kardon GLA-55 speakers midrange cone has an excursion of 1inches? (peak to peak) and its only 3inches.

the klipsch may have similar properties.
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May 16, 2010 10:20:05 AM

soundguruman, what are these cones made out of? (midrange)
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May 16, 2010 10:22:34 AM

they should have sealed that sub, and ported the sattelites
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May 16, 2010 7:35:13 PM

oh yes, it has a cone excursion of 1 inch, then the cone rips out and flies to Jupiter. The material? recycled soda cans.
Give me a break, a 2-3 inch speaker was not designed to reproduce midrange, but I suppose that will vary according to your definition of midrange. It was designed to make sound, yes. It was designed to cost the manufacturer as little as possible, and to be sold at the highest possible price, that's all. If they really sound so good, why don't they use a 2-1/2 inch woofer in a klipsch horn? Because the frequencies are not there. That's all.
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May 16, 2010 9:20:19 PM

1 inch excursion...maybe if it was de-coupled with a phase plug. A lot of subwoofers would fail with that much excursion...

Soundguruman, I think you mean as a woofer. A 2 or 3" driver is the perfect size for the midrange in a 3-way system. It's running everything below the midrange (500hz and below) that's the problem. In a typical loudspeaker (a 2-way), a small driver like that is overly taxed.

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May 16, 2010 10:05:14 PM

its true that it has got i inch excursion, i have no proof ont he net, since i only read it on the news articel advert, anyways theres actually some vids on utube, and ou can see surprisingly lot of excursion even at moderate volumes.

and im sure a lot of subwoofer would succeed over 1 inch excursion, it would be a fail sub if it cant even excurse over 1 inch....
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May 16, 2010 10:07:29 PM

anyways heres one ive found jsut now : http://news.inventhelp.com/Articles/Electronics/Inventi...

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"The Atlas AL woofers peak-to-peak excursion of almost an inch means that these little gems can push out an impressive deep, bass sound."

the JBL pc speakers that has atlas drivers and magnum woofers also share similar properties, JBL creature 2 has a very high excursion on its sattelites, at loud volume.
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May 16, 2010 10:12:59 PM

soundguruman said:
oh yes, it has a cone excursion of 1 inch, then the cone rips out and flies to Jupiter. The material? recycled soda cans.
Give me a break, a 2-3 inch speaker was not designed to reproduce midrange, but I suppose that will vary according to your definition of midrange. It was designed to make sound, yes. It was designed to cost the manufacturer as little as possible, and to be sold at the highest possible price, that's all. If they really sound so good, why don't they use a 2-1/2 inch woofer in a klipsch horn? Because the frequencies are not there. That's all.


since when did i say that the kplisch had a 1 inch excursion. i was on about HK GLA-55...
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May 16, 2010 11:07:04 PM

Looks like a lifestyle product to me. Dell sold a $2,500 22" TN panel with glass enclosure, while they were selling simultaneously selling a $250 22" S-IPS monitor.

Anyway, Harman is known to be a little liberal about specs. Their stuff never seems to measure in the lab as well as they claim.

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and im sure a lot of subwoofer would succeed over 1 inch excursion, it would be a fail sub if it cant even excuse over 1 inch....


Some can and some can't. The big SPL subs are made to produce large SPLs without heavy excursion. A driver that has to do large amounts of end-to-end excursion is in a system that has serious design compromises. The sub I have next to my computer has a max excursion of 1.4" before the suspension system starts to take heavy damage, and the attached servo feedback system won't be able to handle that much stress. The driver alone weighs over 50lbs, and is capable of 10hz down at -10db, and is a flat 12-109Hz +/- 2db.
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May 17, 2010 12:01:28 AM

well it also depends on how much volume you decide to put.
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May 17, 2010 12:01:53 AM

well for a small sub to produce large SPL, it must have big excursion, or else you jsut cant move enough air, to produce a 'big' sound.

excursion can be reduced as the drivers gets bigger, cos its moving a lot of air anyway.
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May 17, 2010 2:01:12 AM

Like I said--Lifestyle Product. There are monitors at $200 that could run in circles on the Harman glass speaker.
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May 17, 2010 2:48:05 AM

I bought a pair of EV sentry's at a garage sale for $100 that had reconed JBL K series 15" woofers in them. You could hear them 2 blocks away when I fired them up. You can buy Advents at garage sales that blow away Harman glass speakers.
As long as there are garage sale speakers, I would not buy speakers with 2-1/2" woofers for $600. :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
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May 17, 2010 7:44:36 PM

lol anyway u win or watever lol, the OPs thread is now solved, tbh i dont even know why we are keep replying to each other.
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May 17, 2010 7:57:07 PM

because we love to argue about sound equipment. :lol: 
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