Barton 3200+

HardWareBoss · Mar 17, 2003

Just read that AMD plans April launch of Barton 3200+ with 400 FSB.

lhgpoobaa · Mar 17, 2003

ok good.
doesnt really qualify as exciting though.

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Twitch · Mar 17, 2003

Actually, I read it would be a 166 FSB on THG CeBit story.
Sounds like AMD has scrapped plans for 200 FSB, at least temporarily.

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eden · Mar 17, 2003

Would you be so kind as to give us your sources?

You know Poobaa could post here talking about a hamster-friendly CPU and we could buy into that?

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lhgpoobaa · Mar 17, 2003

Durons are Hamster friendly. Cheap and cool.
Plus they can be run on the power generated by Hammie's spinning wheel

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HardWareBoss · Mar 17, 2003

The Inquirer had the story. What they gleamed from Cebit.

HardWareBoss · Mar 17, 2003

Hamsters real good source of electricity when your power goes out. 5 of them should have your computer up an runnen in no time.

Mephistopheles · Mar 17, 2003

Yes, I think the 3200+ will also use 333Mhz FSB... Don´t remember if it was indeed on the Inquirer...

(besides, is the Inquirer really a respectable source? I´ve noticed it is very much AMD-biased...)

The core clock on the 3200+ will probably be adjusted as to compete with the 3.2Ghz P4, 800Mhz FSB Northwood (it´ll probably have to go up quite a notch to do so). I wonder how interesting it´ll get...

eden · Mar 17, 2003

I believe the Inquirer, they've really been accurate lately. Those who constantly flame them have yet to watch their own words. Inquirer has been a more trustable source lately, so I don't know why many still ignore their news.
As for bias, I don't know, I haven't noticed.

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vk2amv · Mar 17, 2003

I consider the inquirer more trustworthy than toms is now. And I believe toms hardware is more biased to one thing or another at different times. (Whichever company is paying more at the time) Still I do take the inquirer with caution even though it is much more trustworthy than toms is now.
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Twitch · Mar 17, 2003

Can you give some specific examples of where you think THG is biased?

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Mephistopheles · Mar 17, 2003

That´s a wise idea, to read the Inquirer with caution...
THG too, of course... In any case.

The Inquirer is not that often biased, but when it is, it´s rather annoyingly so. They are overly generous with AMD at times...

HardWareBoss · Mar 17, 2003

I get info from AMD Zone.

eden · Mar 17, 2003

Aren't we all?

We're giving them way too many chances that it's almost insulting to them that we are this generous. :lol:

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Mephistopheles · Mar 17, 2003

That´s right. I guess it´s that same old thing about helping the small guy fight the giant... We shouldn´t be this generous... If it were Intel, we´d be flaming them for not getting x86-64 out the door!

But with amd, we just complain about it...

HardWareBoss · Mar 17, 2003

Number 2 is supposed to try harder.AMD if they do not launch Hammer by the end of the year. It will be lights out for them.

Mephistopheles · Mar 17, 2003

Lights out for them indeed! I can´t see any other way to put it... By the end of the year, I won´t have even a bit of generosity in me regarding AMD...

eden · Mar 18, 2003

Actually, Slvr_Phoenix said it best about a month ago. If AMD falls, IBM buys them out. That actually could be the best thing that ever happens! Why not? I mean, IBM has SOI in their hands, they developped it, no more licensing fees or any more costs, IBM just shares the fab. IBM has more fabs as well and can help the newly bought AMD. They can truly merge forces, instead of "cooperating" as they so call it (yeah right, we all know AMD's in it for the ressources!).

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Twitch · Mar 18, 2003

IBM was in the x86 processor business once upon a time (actually they invented the x86 processor) but they decided it wasn't worth it and got out. I agree that if IBM got back into it and made it a priority, it may be a good thing. I suppose IBM may have hopes for taking over AMD, but it seems to me that right now, IBM is doing what IBM does. Manufacturing x86 microprocessors is not what IBM does. (And incidentally, they weren't all that great at it when they were doing it before.)

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Edited by Twitch on 03/18/03 01:51 AM.

MeTaLrOcKeR · Mar 18, 2003

Much like the IBM/Cyrix 6x86 chips?? LoL....or was it 5x86 chips..?

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Twitch · Mar 18, 2003

I just remember it was called "Blue Lightning," which was a great name for a not-so-great processor. I actually had one at one time. It was 225 (?) MZ and got blown away by Pentium MMX 200.

I always thought IBM just didn't put high-performing processors very high up on their "to-do" list. They've always been about their identity as "Big Blue" and doing business with...well...businesses, rather than individual consumers. Of course, maybe they're looking at the $30 billion Intel made last year and thinking, "oops!"

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Edited by Twitch on 03/18/03 01:53 AM.

MeTaLrOcKeR · Mar 18, 2003

LoL...i think i remember that actually....Cyrix and there ridiculous PR Rating......

I think it was like "IBM Cyrix 6x86 225MHz PR 200" it displayed something stupid like that in the post screen......i remember the IBM Cyrix 5x86 100Mhz PR 133 and the same 100MHz PR 150...and i think there was a few more dumb ones...like 5x86 133 PR 100...LoL.....more like PR 486 SX 25...lol

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Twitch · Mar 18, 2003

Yeah, well it shoulda been Cyrix P.O.S. Sloth or something like that. With a PR rating of 33. That's what it felt like playing Duke Nukem, anyway.

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Edited by Twitch on 03/18/03 02:24 AM.

HardWareBoss · Mar 19, 2003

AMD is not going to 90nm till 1st half to be on the safe side of 2004. It could be 1st quarter. BUT!!!!! with AMD latley who nows. Thats why I'm going with Intel.The icon is not for you Meph but AMD

HardWareBoss · Mar 19, 2003

With AMD"s deal with IBM. It's a matter of time when IBM buys AMD.

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