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nikola   03-28-2003 at 10:40:18 AM

Hi.I hawe see the CPU Specification Comparison table in that link http://www.hyperformance-pc.com/Intel_info.htm and i have hear rumour ince the first fc-pga intel processors pentium 3 and pentiun3 cereron are the TOTAL THE SAME,olny diference its that in factory where its core bild have a in processor eeprom to programm the L2 cache to half memory(256/128) and prgrammable clock multiple unit to make diference between original IP3 to Intel Pentium 3 Celeron.So i cant not believe its no way procesor be hacked.Like its hapend mobile industry and protecting the costumers...

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imgod2u   03-28-2003 at 10:48:57 AM
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The disabled L2 cache can be hacked the same way the clock multiplier can be hacked. With a nice UV laser and an electron microscope and know where you need to cut.

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Mephistopheles   03-28-2003 at 03:22:23 PM
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that would be an interesting challenge... :smile:

If anyone out there is willing to and has <b>(1)</b> an electron microscope and maybe some nanoscale manipulation devices (I´m a physics student, so I know some people who actually have these devices), <b>(2)</b> a new prescott CPU to destroy and <b>(3)</b>lots of knowledge, shouldn´t it be possible to investigate Yamhill? I mean, do a better job than <A HREF="http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2003_03_26_Prescott_clues_for_Yamhill.html" target="_new">this guy</A> did? (he actually didn´t have (2)- <i>a prescott CPU to destroy</i> - in his hands...)

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nikola   03-28-2003 at 04:58:43 PM
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As you know people,intel bilds one core for sale like Ip3 for servers and IP3 for ofice(so termed,factory locked,Celeron).
Its interisting that super computer guys (all i seend)newer have thought to unlock and even studie locked-(for whom) celeron..Now,I curenty use cely 700@66Mhz 1.70V now 900@85Mhz 1.85 Vcc on Asus cuv4x-me onboard home made VID swich for 1,80v.

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Crashman   03-29-2003 at 02:04:38 AM
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First of all, the Celeron Coppermine isn't just half cached, it's given increased cache latency from 0T ot 1T. Now, you MIGHT be able to hack that part and get a small boost. The OTHER part, enabling the disabled cache...Intel has a way to program chips, it's called BLOWING CIRCUITS.

Many Celerons were DEFECTIVE PIII's. The most common area for a defect in a CPU core is Cache. Intel goes "Whoops, this one has bad cache on this side, blow the connection and make it a Celeron".

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nikola   03-29-2003 at 01:05:04 PM
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Lol.Its stange story abaut this cely.Like u write,in factory intel bilds a beta cpus(celeron) for a calibating a mashines for real PIII's?I have O.Hoda cpu lantecy programm so i need a best,stable number for my celeron.I dont know it all i know that my cpu cant be set to 24 lantency time.Now its set 2 by deafult.And y have 1 question for all masters,Ecc chek for L2 cache and Sdrams i dont know what tis meen.Like error correction for merory?If i use defective PIII and i enable Ecc for L2 cache its brobably will system running ok?You know Sinclair ZX Spectum story?Factory use memory chip half bank in use for sale.Lowcost memory...

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Rick_Criswell   03-30-2003 at 03:33:57 AM
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The lower the latency the better. Set it to zero if your cpu will run with it at this speed.

Ecc for the cache is a small performance hit. On a home computer I personally dissable it.

ECC om memory requires memory specifically designed for it. It is not possible on non ECC Memory.

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Crashman   04-01-2003 at 04:06:52 AM
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That program doesn't seem to work with the on-die cache of the Coppermine or newer CPU's, I just didn't have the heart to tell him.


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Crashman   04-01-2003 at 04:06:53 AM
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That program doesn't seem to work with the on-die cache of the Coppermine or newer CPU's, I just didn't have the heart to tell him.


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