2700+ Thoroughbred vs. 2800+ Barton

[Joomy]

I'm just wondering what the performance difference is between the two processors. I ask because the 2800+ is around AUS$200 more expensive than the 2700+, so my question really is: is the 2800+ Barton worth spending $200 more on?

2700+ Thoroughbred: AUS$518
2800+ Barton: AUS$718

Also if anyone knows better prices for these, let me know , although after hours of searching these are the best I've found.

 

[TKH]

My answer to your question is no. 2700+ is clocked higher than Barton 2800+. The extra cache doesn't justify the $200. A small overclocked 2700+ is able to outperform Barton 2800+ easily.

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[lhgpoobaa]

Greetings fellow Auzzie.
The answer for the most part is NO.
The increase in cache size of the Barton DOESN'T compensate for the loss of Mhz, except in a few select applications.
Add to that the big cost difference...
Get the XP2700.
Or better yet, see if you can find some of the superoverclockable XP1700/1800/2100's. (if your into that sorta thing)

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[Joomy]

Well, I've never overclocked before, and the PC I'm planning now is really gonna be the first time I've had a closer-to-top-end system. You really think an XP1700 can be overclocked to match with an XP2700?

 

[rebturtle]

Hey Joomy,
Have you considered American sites? You can go to places like <A HREF="http://shop3.outpost.com/product/3559834" target="_new">Fry's Outpost</A> and get an XP2800+ processor for $400 US. I don't know how this coverts to AUS $, but at least it sounds better, and they do ship to Australia.
As for trying to OC a 1700, I don't think it's worth it for your first time tweaking. You'd have to have some massive cooling involved, and unless you're changing to watercooling or Vapochill, it's gonna be really noisy! Remember also that the hotter your processesor runs, the shorter it's lifespan is, although I haven't seen an AMD die of "old age" yet. Good luck!

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[Makaveli]

Go with the XP2700!
its not worth an extra 200 bucks for just extra cache and abit slower clock speed.

I'm running a XP2700+ I can run at T-bred XP2800 speed and up to 2.33Ghz on Default Voltage.

2.4 Ghz on 1.8vcore max stable at the moment.

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[FO_SHO]

FYI, you can do xp 2700 speeds and beyond with a xp 1700 JIUHB 0302~+ stepping.

XP 2700 ~ $200
xp 1700 ~ $50

Don't buy Barton, buy T bred B. With the NF2 boards, all Tbreds are unlocked as well.

 

[Makaveli]

i'm aware that the 1700 JIUHB 0302 are great overclockers.
But you also have to use higher voltages to get one of those over 2.1 ghz.

 

[FO_SHO]

hey Makaveli, you're not a tupac fan are you?? Just curious..

 

[lhgpoobaa]

Well if you have never overclocked then its probably better getting the XP2700+... or better yet, get the XP2400+ its still very fast at stock speeds, costs a HELL of a lot less, and if you wish to dabble with overclocking it should overclock modestly as well.

the high end AMD chips, XP2700,2800 and the bartons rally arnt worth the money they cost.

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[lhgpoobaa]

$400 US isnt much cheaper as the exchange rate at the moment is 0.6... so 666 auzzie bux... not including shippage.

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[Joomy]

First, thanks for the input guys.

I was just looking at the 2400+ at <A HREF="http://www.dhcpower.com.au/catalog/default.php/cPath/9_144" target="_new">DHCPower Computers</A>, the cheapest Aussie site I've found so far, and it certainly is a helluva lot less, only $281. However, isn't it a T-bred A? How much difference is there between, say, a 2600+ T-bred B and the 2400+?

Edit: Whoa, Fry's is selling the 2400+ at a <i>higher</i> price than DHC (AUS$289 converted). Never seen that before.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Joomy on 04/13/03 02:49 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Makaveli]

XP2400+ is a T-Bred B. Only the XP2200 was a T-Bred A.

The 333fsb of the XP2600 makes it more appealing than the XP2400. But i'm not sure of the price difference in Aus.

 

[Makaveli]

Yes I am a Tupac fan. Since 1993!

 

[peteb]

Unfortunately since Fry's bought Outpost the hardly ship anything useful Internationally as you'll notice on the link you supplied "Not available for export"

They don't 'export' much anymore - which is annoying because although they were expensive, they at least had a pretty good range of stuff available.

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[Joomy]

Yeah, I've pretty much decided on the 2600+.

As for the price, it's not much more here in Australia (US$280 converted), and with shipping costs it would be almost the same I think.

Thanks for the input, all.

 

[lhgpoobaa]

no. The TbredA only went up to XP2200+... and an overclocked TbredA barely goes any further.
The XP2400+ is definately a B.




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[AMD_me]

Im running a 1700+ TbredB at 2194 MHz, which is faster than a 2700+. I am using a Swiftech MCX462+ with a Tornado, so you should be able to get 2400+ speeds with retail HSF and Arctic Silver III (my friend did.)
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