Old Presario 1255, new to me

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Hi.

I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard diagnostics on my
cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario 1255 to me,
and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop from him and
now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to its max of
60mb -- with 128mb.

My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested" pc66? If
so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this laptop? ..say a
stick from an Armada M700?

Sure appreciate your input.

Wayne
 
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The 1255 that I used to have was REAL fussy WRT memory. Only worked with
PC 66.
Traded mine for a couple of desktop machines.
--
Steve W.

"Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi.
>
> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard diagnostics
on my
> cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario 1255 to
me,
> and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop from him
and
> now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to its max of
> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>
> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested" pc66?
If
> so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this laptop?
...say a
> stick from an Armada M700?
>
> Sure appreciate your input.
>
> Wayne
>
>



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Hmm. I wondered about that as I was on Comtread.com site and they spec the
1255 at this: http://www.comtread.com/results.html?sid=3&type=3&Submit1=Go
According to them their pc100 works the same as pc66. This stick they offer
seems generic to most all other applications. The Kingston memory site (and
others) however, is really specific ..but it did raise a few flags. That's
why I'm polling.

So thanks, Steve.

I wonder if others in this group had a similar experience with theirs..?

Wayne



"Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
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> The 1255 that I used to have was REAL fussy WRT memory. Only worked with
> PC 66.
> Traded mine for a couple of desktop machines.
> --
> Steve W.
>
> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>> Hi.
>>
>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard diagnostics
> on my
>> cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario 1255 to
> me,
>> and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop from him
> and
>> now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to its max of
>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>>
>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested" pc66?
> If
>> so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this laptop?
> ..say a
>> stick from an Armada M700?
>>
>> Sure appreciate your input.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP memory.
Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go

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"Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi.
>
> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard diagnostics on
> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario 1255 to
> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop from him
> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to its max of
> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>
> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested" pc66? If
> so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this laptop? ..say a
> stick from an Armada M700?
>
> Sure appreciate your input.
>
> Wayne
>
>
 
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I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using 128mb),
which still is rather limited.

Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128 for this
1255 laptop.

Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not appear to work
as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it would just
be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed is all (?)



"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP memory.
> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
>
> http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
>
> HH
>
>
> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>> Hi.
>>
>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard diagnostics on
>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario 1255 to
>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop from him
>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to its max of
>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>>
>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested" pc66?
>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this laptop?
>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
>>
>> Sure appreciate your input.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>
>
 
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This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot of the older
chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were available, so
the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact, early, early PC66
memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit, which tells the
motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:

>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using 128mb),
>which still is rather limited.
>
>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128 for this
>1255 laptop.
>
>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not appear to work
>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it would just
>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed is all (?)
>
>
>
>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP memory.
>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
>>
>> http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
>>
>> HH
>>
>>
>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard diagnostics on
>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario 1255 to
>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop from him
>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to its max of
>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>>>
>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested" pc66?
>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this laptop?
>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
>>>
>>> Sure appreciate your input.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts of this
Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will detail that
info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and m'board
manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the IBM site
for all their notebooks.



<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
> This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot of the
> older
> chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
> available, so
> the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact, early,
> early PC66
> memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit, which tells
> the
> motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
>
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using 128mb),
>>which still is rather limited.
>>
>>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128 for this
>>1255 laptop.
>>
>>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not appear to
>>work
>>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it would
>>just
>>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed is all (?)
>>
>>
>>
>>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP
>>> memory.
>>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
>>>
>>> http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
>>>
>>> HH
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard diagnostics
>>>> on
>>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario 1255
>>>> to
>>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop from
>>>> him
>>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to its max
>>>> of
>>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>>>>
>>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested" pc66?
>>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this laptop?
>>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
>>>>
>>>> Sure appreciate your input.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
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http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/system.html
This the one you found?

CPU should be a AMD K6 - 333 with MMX
Link to faster CPU upgrade
http://www.mgrudkin.clara.net/
http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm

More info on the 1255
http://snipurl.com/e0v0

The only problem I had with mine was the touchpad. It went nuts when you
touched it.

--
Steve Williams

"Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
news:xay7e.40208$jR3.30323@edtnps84...
> Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts of
this
> Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will detail
that
> info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and
m'board
> manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
> maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the IBM
site
> for all their notebooks.
>
>
>
> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
> > This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot of
the
> > older
> > chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
> > available, so
> > the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact,
early,
> > early PC66
> > memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit, which
tells
> > the
> > motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using
128mb),
> >>which still is rather limited.
> >>
> >>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128 for
this
> >>1255 laptop.
> >>
> >>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not appear
to
> >>work
> >>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it
would
> >>just
> >>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed is
all (?)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
> >>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP
> >>> memory.
> >>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
> >>>
> >>>
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
> >>>
> >>> HH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
> >>>> Hi.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard
diagnostics
> >>>> on
> >>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario
1255
> >>>> to
> >>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop
from
> >>>> him
> >>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to
its max
> >>>> of
> >>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
> >>>>
> >>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested"
pc66?
> >>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this
laptop?
> >>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure appreciate your input.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wayne
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>



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Thanks, Steve. Been through the Compaq corporate site. However, the other
links you sent are quite interesting. But I still need more specifics on
the motherboard and main chipsets, etc. as applies to the 1255's AMD K-2
that's on it.
As well, Mike's site doesn't really chase down many results of any dip
changes. That could be dangerous without knowing the details of other
product parts within the laptop. Be great to read some others comments on
what they did on the board and what the results were..
How will any of this change my pc66 directive to a pc100?




"Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
news:425f1d20$1_1@127.0.0.1...
> http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/system.html
> This the one you found?
>
> CPU should be a AMD K6 - 333 with MMX
> Link to faster CPU upgrade
> http://www.mgrudkin.clara.net/
> http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm
>
> More info on the 1255
> http://snipurl.com/e0v0
>
> The only problem I had with mine was the touchpad. It went nuts when you
> touched it.
>
> --
> Steve Williams
>
> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:xay7e.40208$jR3.30323@edtnps84...
>> Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts of
> this
>> Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will detail
> that
>> info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and
> m'board
>> manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
>> maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the IBM
> site
>> for all their notebooks.
>>
>>
>>
>> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>> news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
>> > This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot of
> the
>> > older
>> > chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
>> > available, so
>> > the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact,
> early,
>> > early PC66
>> > memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit, which
> tells
>> > the
>> > motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
>> >
>> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using
> 128mb),
>> >>which still is rather limited.
>> >>
>> >>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128 for
> this
>> >>1255 laptop.
>> >>
>> >>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not appear
> to
>> >>work
>> >>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it
> would
>> >>just
>> >>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed is
> all (?)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>> >>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP
>> >>> memory.
>> >>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
>> >>>
>> >>>
> http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
>> >>>
>> >>> HH
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>> >>>> Hi.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard
> diagnostics
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario
> 1255
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop
> from
>> >>>> him
>> >>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to
> its max
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested"
> pc66?
>> >>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this
> laptop?
>> >>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sure appreciate your input.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wayne
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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The MB was Compaqs own design. Made by Mitac I think, been a while since
I had mine opened up.
Chipset was Nvidea and it had S3 sound.

If you want to find out more info grab a copy of SiSoft SANDRA. Run it
and it will outline all the parts in the machine.
As for upping the bus speed it cannot be done, the only options on the
board were 60 or 66 mhz,


--
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"Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
news:mNF7e.33151$vt1.11365@edtnps90...
> Thanks, Steve. Been through the Compaq corporate site. However, the
other
> links you sent are quite interesting. But I still need more specifics
on
> the motherboard and main chipsets, etc. as applies to the 1255's AMD
K-2
> that's on it.
> As well, Mike's site doesn't really chase down many results of any dip
> changes. That could be dangerous without knowing the details of other
> product parts within the laptop. Be great to read some others
comments on
> what they did on the board and what the results were..
> How will any of this change my pc66 directive to a pc100?
>
>
>
>
> "Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
> news:425f1d20$1_1@127.0.0.1...
> > http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/system.html
> > This the one you found?
> >
> > CPU should be a AMD K6 - 333 with MMX
> > Link to faster CPU upgrade
> > http://www.mgrudkin.clara.net/
> > http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm
> >
> > More info on the 1255
> > http://snipurl.com/e0v0
> >
> > The only problem I had with mine was the touchpad. It went nuts when
you
> > touched it.
> >
> > --
> > Steve Williams
> >
> > "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:xay7e.40208$jR3.30323@edtnps84...
> >> Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts
of
> > this
> >> Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will
detail
> > that
> >> info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and
> > m'board
> >> manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
> >> maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the
IBM
> > site
> >> for all their notebooks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >> news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
> >> > This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot
of
> > the
> >> > older
> >> > chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
> >> > available, so
> >> > the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact,
> > early,
> >> > early PC66
> >> > memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit,
which
> > tells
> >> > the
> >> > motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using
> > 128mb),
> >> >>which still is rather limited.
> >> >>
> >> >>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128
for
> > this
> >> >>1255 laptop.
> >> >>
> >> >>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not
appear
> > to
> >> >>work
> >> >>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it
> > would
> >> >>just
> >> >>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed
is
> > all (?)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
> >> >>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all
Compaq/HP
> >> >>> memory.
> >> >>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
> >> >>>
> >> >>> HH
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
> >> >>>> Hi.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard
> > diagnostics
> >> >>>> on
> >> >>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older
Presario
> > 1255
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the
laptop
> > from
> >> >>>> him
> >> >>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to
> > its max
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the
"suggested"
> > pc66?
> >> >>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this
> > laptop?
> >> >>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Sure appreciate your input.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Wayne
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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Given that the CPU is an AMD K6-2 and the bus is limited to 66MHz, the best
speed possible would be 400MHz, if the 1255 motherboard has jumpers to change
the clock multiplier from 5.0 to 6.0 (same as 2.0) AND the CPU is socketed
rather than soldered down. The faster CPU would give about a 20% bump in
processor speed, almost noise level in a system which probably has a slow 4200
rpm hard drive. In other words, not worth the effort to do... Ben Myers

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:43:50 -0400, "Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote:

>http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/system.html
>This the one you found?
>
>CPU should be a AMD K6 - 333 with MMX
>Link to faster CPU upgrade
>http://www.mgrudkin.clara.net/
>http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm
>
>More info on the 1255
>http://snipurl.com/e0v0
>
>The only problem I had with mine was the touchpad. It went nuts when you
>touched it.
>
>--
>Steve Williams
>
>"Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>news:xay7e.40208$jR3.30323@edtnps84...
>> Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts of
>this
>> Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will detail
>that
>> info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and
>m'board
>> manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
>> maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the IBM
>site
>> for all their notebooks.
>>
>>
>>
>> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>> news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
>> > This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot of
>the
>> > older
>> > chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
>> > available, so
>> > the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact,
>early,
>> > early PC66
>> > memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit, which
>tells
>> > the
>> > motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
>> >
>> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using
>128mb),
>> >>which still is rather limited.
>> >>
>> >>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128 for
>this
>> >>1255 laptop.
>> >>
>> >>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not appear
>to
>> >>work
>> >>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it
>would
>> >>just
>> >>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed is
>all (?)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>> >>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP
>> >>> memory.
>> >>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
>> >>>
>> >>> HH
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>> >>>> Hi.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard
>diagnostics
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario
>1255
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop
>from
>> >>>> him
>> >>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to
>its max
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested"
>pc66?
>> >>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this
>laptop?
>> >>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sure appreciate your input.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wayne
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
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You mention the sensitivity of the touchpad, Steve. I also notice the same
thing. The mouse bar is super sensitive, got it turned down as slow as
possible (double-click). In fact I can just tap the touchpad and it
double-clicks ..go figure.
I wonder if it is easy to get under the keyboard to fix that annoyance?
Wayne






"Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
news:425f1d20$1_1@127.0.0.1...
> http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/system.html
> This the one you found?
>
> CPU should be a AMD K6 - 333 with MMX
> Link to faster CPU upgrade
> http://www.mgrudkin.clara.net/
> http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm
>
> More info on the 1255
> http://snipurl.com/e0v0
>
> The only problem I had with mine was the touchpad. It went nuts when you
> touched it.
>
> --
> Steve Williams
>
> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:xay7e.40208$jR3.30323@edtnps84...
>> Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts of
> this
>> Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will detail
> that
>> info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and
> m'board
>> manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
>> maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the IBM
> site
>> for all their notebooks.
>>
>>
>>
>> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>> news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
>> > This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot of
> the
>> > older
>> > chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
>> > available, so
>> > the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact,
> early,
>> > early PC66
>> > memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit, which
> tells
>> > the
>> > motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
>> >
>> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using
> 128mb),
>> >>which still is rather limited.
>> >>
>> >>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128 for
> this
>> >>1255 laptop.
>> >>
>> >>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not appear
> to
>> >>work
>> >>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it
> would
>> >>just
>> >>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed is
> all (?)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>> >>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all Compaq/HP
>> >>> memory.
>> >>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
>> >>>
>> >>>
> http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
>> >>>
>> >>> HH
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>> >>>> Hi.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard
> diagnostics
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older Presario
> 1255
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the laptop
> from
>> >>>> him
>> >>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to
> its max
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the "suggested"
> pc66?
>> >>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this
> laptop?
>> >>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sure appreciate your input.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wayne
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
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It is REAL easy to pull the 1255 apart. However make sure you have the
newer drivers installed (Logitech made the pad) I used them and it made
a big difference. However if you did need a new pad it was like 25.00
for the new part. Mine was a bad controller chip. The real shock was the
repair center replaced the bad battery with a newer larger one for free.

--
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"Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
news:MUu8e.35834$VF5.30074@edtnps89...
> You mention the sensitivity of the touchpad, Steve. I also notice the
same
> thing. The mouse bar is super sensitive, got it turned down as slow
as
> possible (double-click). In fact I can just tap the touchpad and it
> double-clicks ..go figure.
> I wonder if it is easy to get under the keyboard to fix that
annoyance?
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
> news:425f1d20$1_1@127.0.0.1...
> > http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/system.html
> > This the one you found?
> >
> > CPU should be a AMD K6 - 333 with MMX
> > Link to faster CPU upgrade
> > http://www.mgrudkin.clara.net/
> > http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm
> >
> > More info on the 1255
> > http://snipurl.com/e0v0
> >
> > The only problem I had with mine was the touchpad. It went nuts when
you
> > touched it.
> >
> > --
> > Steve Williams
> >
> > "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:xay7e.40208$jR3.30323@edtnps84...
> >> Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts
of
> > this
> >> Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will
detail
> > that
> >> info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and
> > m'board
> >> manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
> >> maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the
IBM
> > site
> >> for all their notebooks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >> news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
> >> > This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot
of
> > the
> >> > older
> >> > chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
> >> > available, so
> >> > the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact,
> > early,
> >> > early PC66
> >> > memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit,
which
> > tells
> >> > the
> >> > motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using
> > 128mb),
> >> >>which still is rather limited.
> >> >>
> >> >>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128
for
> > this
> >> >>1255 laptop.
> >> >>
> >> >>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not
appear
> > to
> >> >>work
> >> >>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it
> > would
> >> >>just
> >> >>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed
is
> > all (?)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
> >> >>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all
Compaq/HP
> >> >>> memory.
> >> >>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
> >> >>>
> >> >>> HH
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
> >> >>>> Hi.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard
> > diagnostics
> >> >>>> on
> >> >>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older
Presario
> > 1255
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the
laptop
> > from
> >> >>>> him
> >> >>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to
> > its max
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the
"suggested"
> > pc66?
> >> >>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this
> > laptop?
> >> >>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Sure appreciate your input.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Wayne
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Free battery: ah, but I'll bet your laptop was probably still on
warranty..?
where did you source for the 1255 parts?

"Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
news:4265691b$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> It is REAL easy to pull the 1255 apart. However make sure you have the
> newer drivers installed (Logitech made the pad) I used them and it made
> a big difference. However if you did need a new pad it was like 25.00
> for the new part. Mine was a bad controller chip. The real shock was the
> repair center replaced the bad battery with a newer larger one for free.
>
> --
> Steve Williams
>
> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:MUu8e.35834$VF5.30074@edtnps89...
>> You mention the sensitivity of the touchpad, Steve. I also notice the
> same
>> thing. The mouse bar is super sensitive, got it turned down as slow
> as
>> possible (double-click). In fact I can just tap the touchpad and it
>> double-clicks ..go figure.
>> I wonder if it is easy to get under the keyboard to fix that
> annoyance?
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
>> news:425f1d20$1_1@127.0.0.1...
>> > http://www.compaq.com/athome/support/msgs/1255-1275/system.html
>> > This the one you found?
>> >
>> > CPU should be a AMD K6 - 333 with MMX
>> > Link to faster CPU upgrade
>> > http://www.mgrudkin.clara.net/
>> > http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm
>> >
>> > More info on the 1255
>> > http://snipurl.com/e0v0
>> >
>> > The only problem I had with mine was the touchpad. It went nuts when
> you
>> > touched it.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Steve Williams
>> >
>> > "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>> > news:xay7e.40208$jR3.30323@edtnps84...
>> >> Interesting. Where can one round up info on the specs on the guts
> of
>> > this
>> >> Presario 1255? Is there a link to Compaq (or other) that will
> detail
>> > that
>> >> info, what components went into the laptop. ie: specific CPU and
>> > m'board
>> >> manufacturer and models, etc. I found a Compaq link to service and
>> >> maintenance of the unit but no specifics as (for instance) on the
> IBM
>> > site
>> >> for all their notebooks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>> >> news:425ea332.18846436@nntp.charter.net...
>> >> > This is not unusual, whether notebook or desktop computer. A lot
> of
>> > the
>> >> > older
>> >> > chipsets were designed before speed grades faster than PC66 were
>> >> > available, so
>> >> > the chipsets are constrained to only recognize PC66. In fact,
>> > early,
>> >> > early PC66
>> >> > memory does not have a serial presence detect (SPD) circuit,
> which
>> > tells
>> >> > the
>> >> > motherboard the speed of the memory... Ben Myers
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:41 GMT, "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>I'd like to take full advantage of the maximum of 160mb 9by using
>> > 128mb),
>> >> >>which still is rather limited.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Seems Kingston also still provides pc66 at 128mb: KTC-p1900/128
> for
>> > this
>> >> >>1255 laptop.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Damn. Really too bad the much more available pc100 does not
> appear
>> > to
>> >> >>work
>> >> >>as I was led to believe it was backward compatible. I thought it
>> > would
>> >> >>just
>> >> >>be a matter that the laptop doesn't take advantage of the speed
> is
>> > all (?)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:HLydnTCvfpA50MPfRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>> >> >>> Steve is correct. PC66 only. I recommend Crucial for all
> Compaq/HP
>> >> >>> memory.
>> >> >>> Here is the link to your 1255. Only 64MB SODIMMs are available.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >
> http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario+Notebooks.&mfr=Compaq&cat=RAM&model=Presario+1255.&submit=Go
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> HH
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:Cdg7e.32367$7Q4.20399@clgrps13...
>> >> >>>> Hi.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I was looking for a rudimentary laptop to do some onboard
>> > diagnostics
>> >> >>>> on
>> >> >>>> my cars. My neighbour was kind enough to loan an older
> Presario
>> > 1255
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> me, and it did the scan flawlessly! I decided to buy the
> laptop
>> > from
>> >> >>>> him
>> >> >>>> and now wish to upgrade the meager 32mb of hardwired memory to
>> > its max
>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >>>> 60mb -- with 128mb.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> My question is: pc100 backward compatible with the
> "suggested"
>> > pc66?
>> >> >>>> If so, will any 128mb PC100 144pin Sodimm sdram work in this
>> > laptop?
>> >> >>>> ..say a stick from an Armada M700?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Sure appreciate your input.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Wayne
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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Shouldn't matter the battery is not covered by warranty. Plus it was 4
months out of coverage at that time.
Parts actually came from a friend who works at Tandys service center in
Albany NY. Ordered direct from Compaq. When I first got it from RS it
was missing a rubber foot. Called Compaq and they sent me a "plastics
replacement kit" Has LOT's of feet, replacement screw covers, battery
doors, even replacement hinges for the LCD.
Still have most of the stuff, need any for yours? Overall it wasn't a
bad machine but I didn't need it any longer.

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"Wayne" <wgt@telus.net> wrote in message
news:4ok9e.34765$yV3.23523@clgrps12...
> Free battery: ah, but I'll bet your laptop was probably still on
> warranty..?
> where did you source for the 1255 parts?
>
> "Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
> news:4265691b$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> > It is REAL easy to pull the 1255 apart. However make sure you have
the
> > newer drivers installed (Logitech made the pad) I used them and it
made
> > a big difference. However if you did need a new pad it was like
25.00
> > for the new part. Mine was a bad controller chip. The real shock was
the
> > repair center replaced the bad battery with a newer larger one for
free.
> >
> > --
> > Steve Williams



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