Barton 2500+ Question

[Sin]

Yo. I Just bought a Saphire 9700, and used the bios flash to make it a 9700 PRO.. All went well, and im getting some nice points in 3dmark. I now have the cash to upgrade my CPU.. and i was looking at the Barton 2500+ .. Now my question is this.. My mobo is a AT7-MAX , not the MAX 2 but the first one. In the manual it says it supports "XP1500+ - 2200+ or future Socket A processors based on 200 MHz/266 MHz" will the Barton work on this board ?? Thnx

 

[FDTzeng]

I dont think so - I believe all the Barton cores are 333FSB only. Youll have to go with something like a 2400 or 2600. (I dunno if a 266FSB 2700 exists, is so then u can go that route too).

 

[lhgpoobaa]

Hmmmm. Its hard to say. As its a KT333 chipset it CAN support 166FSB processors, abeit unofficially... but some of the early boards couldnt. The abit at7 isnt too bad, so you shouldnt have any problems running at 166.



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[Titanion]

I am wondering about the barton, too. My KT333 Soyo Dragon Ultra supports ram at 166 but only a fsb of 133... but it does allow overclocking... with a barton, if it worked, overclocked to 166, push my pci devices and onboard devices too hard... the cpu wouldn't really be overclocked, but everything else would... With the KT333, I just wish it supported the cpu at 166 or at lease has a 1/5 pci ratio.... I am currently running a 1900+ at stock 1.6 GHz.

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[lhgpoobaa]

That dragon by all reports SHOULD support your barton. (166fsb) Though maybe not officially and thus not recognise the cpu ID at startup (big whoopie)

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[Titanion]

I was just doing my own reasearch

http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/mobo/soyokt333/f1.shtml

and the major drawback is the lack of a 1/5 ratio... so my ratio will stay at 1/4, and it is posted that anything above 160 fsb is dangerous. Te guy testing above ran into problems at 158 fsb.

I really would not want to push my components past the 37.5 mark, and that would mean stopping the fsb at 150... I could live with that, especially if the barton would be cool at that speed and I would not have to even worry about extra cooling or voltage issues... I like stability, for my computer has a raid set up and is used for video editing as well as gaming... ya, so that would be great if it was rock solid...

Yet with 150x11 (unless the barton is unlocked) I would get 1.65 GHz, and I have 1.6 now with my 1900+, albiet with a 133 fsb... I really want to reach the 2.0 GHz mark when I upgrade my cpu next...

With my motherboard, with all of its onboard DRAGON stuff, is a pci bus of 37.5 safe and stable... this would be a safe, conservitive setup, right, with the barton very happy at 150 fsb? I am running 3 80 GB ATA 133 Maxtor HDDs, two set up on a RAID... and my ATI 9500 Pro can handle the increase in AGP speed as well, duh...

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[lhgpoobaa]

Thats very unfortunate... and a problem with some of the early KT333 boards. Allthoguht they had the 1/5 divider, they wernt manufactured to cope with 166fsb or greater or in the case of your board it seems, 1/5 ws actively disabled to stop people from attempting overclocking.

My epox 8k3a+ is of similar vintage, but it was designed especially for overclockers, so 166fsb is no problem. 1/5 multiplier or chipset stability wise.

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