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toddmd2   04-18-2003 at 05:11:46 PM

My new pc is mainly going to be used for gaming and I want to know which company makes a better processor for that purpose. I'm going all out on this pc, radeon 9800, at least a gig of ddr400 etc, which processor would suit me better?

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sturm   04-18-2003 at 05:53:50 PM
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Either one will do the job. It all depends on your budget. I have seen many people say the amds are better if all your doing is gameing. But it really comes down to what you want.

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jwgeetar   04-18-2003 at 06:25:27 PM
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AMD's price's just dropped. i am happy with my AMD xp2500 Barton.cheap and overclockable.


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AMD_me   04-18-2003 at 06:42:01 PM
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I find AMDs to be much cheaper, much faster, and much more overclockable for gaming. The 1700+ JIUHB, 2100+ (ALL TbredB) 2600+ or Barton 2500+ are all good overclockers. I currenty run a TbredB 2400+ oced to 2463 MHz, a 3425+ PR in SiSoft Sandra.

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Lamoni   04-18-2003 at 06:42:15 PM
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Since you said that you are going all out, then the new P4 3.0 GHz 800MHz FSB (200 MHz quad pumped) is the top performer in all areas. Intel has had the fastest CPU for a long time now. The only reason to go with AMD is for the price. mid-high end CPU's are similarly priced, but low end AMD CPU's are priced much better than low end P4's. Go with Intel if you want the best. If you want something that is good enough and that will cost MUCH less, then you could consider AMD. (referring to the AXP 1700+ 'B' and not the 2800+)

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FUGGER   04-18-2003 at 08:32:55 PM
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Intel price drop on April 22.

The video card is the more importasnt factor for games now as even the slowest Celeron P4 and Duron can handle almost all games available today with easy.

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Mephistopheles   04-19-2003 at 04:55:35 AM
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I have to agree with Lamoni on this one. If you are going "all out" on this PC, then your choice is easy. You should pick a i875-based mobo, like the P4C800, and good-quality DDR400 along with a 3.0Ghz, 800Mhz HT-enabled P4. That´s the best thing around right now, no doubt about it.

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Mephistopheles   04-19-2003 at 04:59:35 AM
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Intel price drop on April 22.


It´s good to know that!

Anyway, I think it might be a bit optimistic to say that the video card is so important that you could run a R9700 Pro on a Duron/Celeron and play the latest games admirably well. You memory/processor system might be a bottleneck in that cases... Of course, this mainly applies to the latest games. (Doom 3, for example, will surely complain about running on a Duron or Celeron! Over-the-top example here, of course)

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HardWareBoss   04-19-2003 at 05:09:40 AM
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You have the money go wiyh P4 3.04 800 FSB. What two weeks plus. The 3.2 GHZ 800 FSB Northwood should be out by than. ATI 9800 Is the best Vid card now. Till NV 35 hits the streets in Aug.

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Rubberbband   04-19-2003 at 05:48:29 AM
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I agree. Well except for that part about NV35 and Nvidia. Nvidia better start putting its money where its mouth is soon...Right now their mouths are writing checks that their products can't cash. Go with the Radeon!

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HardWareBoss   04-20-2003 at 05:54:46 AM
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They should have done a better job with FX. With all the hype. ATI is the better Vid card.

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xxsk8er101xx   04-20-2003 at 07:09:39 AM
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all out eh? Don't go AMD then! The current available setup that is the fastest around is the p4 3.06ghz 533fsb with 512MB pc3200 and radeon 9800 pro and the WD "special edition" drives will make your friends wet themselves!

now if you wanna wait a few weeks the p4 3ghz w/ 800fsb will be pretty fast!

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Prof133   04-20-2003 at 08:34:52 AM
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For a high-end setup you're probably looking at a Canterwood chipset motherboard/3GHz+ P4 combo. Still not clear which Canterwood chipset motherboard is the front-runner as of now. Also, it is not clear which ones have certain <i>problems</i> that will be worked out on a future revision.

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knowan   04-20-2003 at 06:31:34 PM
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For video games either will do. The only place where I consistantly see a Pentium perform better than and AMD is with video conversion and editing.

That said, if money is no object then hands down the best CPU is the hyperthreaded P4 3.06. I expect this CPU will even beat the Hammer series when they come out.

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HardWareBoss   04-21-2003 at 05:27:11 AM
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When 3.2 Ghz 800 FSB launches in May price will be $600+ That will be the fastest CPU. If you can wait that long an have the Money to burn.

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xxsk8er101xx   04-21-2003 at 05:30:46 AM
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dude i'm waiting until the prices go soo low i won't have to burn too much lol! so you say may huh? i can wait ... i'm waiting until the prices no longer drop. it's at 398 right now.

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reever2   04-21-2003 at 05:38:01 AM
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Yeah but look how much the motherboards cost. Wait for springdale

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HardWareBoss   04-21-2003 at 05:43:47 AM
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Don't go with Springdale. Canterwood is the way to go. I'm going with Canterwood than buying Prescott sometime next year.

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xxsk8er101xx   04-21-2003 at 07:15:54 PM
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ya thats why i'm waiting for springdale. It will be much cheaper and newer then canterwood so the bugs will have been worked out. But for now the current boards are fine. You don't really need the latest and the greatest.

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xxsk8er101xx   04-21-2003 at 07:18:07 PM
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from my understanding springdale is the next chipset that will be better than canterwood?

I'd still wait until prices go down. Sometimes prices go down is an indication that the production has been better refined. Better quality in my opinion.

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Twitch   04-21-2003 at 11:04:35 PM
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Actually, Springdale won't be better than Canterwood. Springdale is Intel's mainstream 800 FSB chipset. Canterwood is targeted towards the performance/workstation market. Springdale will be the cheaper route to 800 FSB.



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HardWareBoss   04-21-2003 at 11:27:14 PM
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Springdale to launch in the next two to three weeks. The Northwood 3.2 Ghz 800 Fsb will launch the same time as Springdale.

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xxsk8er101xx   04-22-2003 at 04:19:11 AM
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oh no kidden? alright thanks!

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Twitch   04-22-2003 at 04:21:05 AM
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By the way, newegg.com has the new MSI with Springdale in stock. $125.



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DReborn   04-22-2003 at 04:35:20 AM
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Anybody know when the 800fsb 2.8 chips are coming out? Thanks!!

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Twitch   04-22-2003 at 04:37:05 AM
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I've heard it'll be around E3...


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DReborn   04-22-2003 at 04:41:39 AM
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E3...hmm, when is that again? May the electronic gods smite me, I know. =)

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Twitch   04-22-2003 at 04:53:52 AM
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Thou hast been smote! (smoten? smitten? ANYway...)

By the way, is your name in reference to the Robert Jordan books?

Three to four weeks...



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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Twitch on 04/21/03 10:54 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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FUGGER   04-22-2003 at 09:21:39 AM
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I decided to take out my 3.06HT and drop in a 2.26 C1 SL6RY, OEM version from Fry's

<A HREF="http://fugger.netfirms.com/210.jpg" target="_new">200+ FSB chips</A>

Not bad for $139 chip. My mobo is a P4C800 that maxes out at 1.6v in bios

2.4D1, 2.8D1 are now available. The 2.4D1 is supposed to reach 300FSB based upon early reports. Memory dividers only step the memory down, not up. meaning you cannot run the ram faster than the FSB.

I have selection up to 400FSB.

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FUGGER   04-22-2003 at 09:27:59 AM
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The Geforce FX 5800 Ultra cannot beat the 9700Pro in benchmarks. The image quality sucks bad in order to keep up with the 9700Pro. I would not consider it image quality. I currently hold the #1 fastest FX card on 3DMark.

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Figwit   04-22-2003 at 09:52:43 AM
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AMD SUCKS! GEFORCEFX SUCKS! I hope they all burn up!

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sabbath1   04-22-2003 at 06:45:01 PM
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yup, ATI seems faster these days :P

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