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Dell has lately been using offshore Contract Electronics Manufacturers (CEMs)
like everyone else. Foxconn is one of them.
For cloning chips, the Taiwanese have been sort of doing it for years, Via
Technology, Silicon Integrated Systems and Acer Labs Inc as the three major
motherboard chipset designer-manufacturers competing with Intel. The chips are
not exact Intel clones, but rather chips that perform the same functions.
As far as cloning an Intel processor, that's gonna be devilishly hard. Only AMD
has succeeded with an X86 CPU. Cyrix pretty much failed after a long hard try.
Transmeta is about to go under. National Semi's Centaur unit never got off the
ground.
Electronics chips are where the value really lies. Seems like most anyone with
a wave solder machine can make boards and solder the chips on... Ben Myers
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:00:59 -0700, David Kinsell <kinsell@poboxyz.com> wrote:
>aghnis@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Good grief. This is what is wrong with this nation, where a few people
>> take millions and leave the rest for us real workers. In 2002, Joe
>> Nacchio left Qwest, a company worth $86 billion, and departed with $260
>> million. He left Qwest on the brink of insolvency. This same story is
>> repeated at many organizations, where a few corrupt individuals rip off
>> the system. This leaves less money available for the real workers.
>
>After the merger went through, Carly celebrated by having the company buy
>two new Gulfstream jets for 40 million+ a pop, at the same time she was laying
>off 17,000 workers to save money. The girl liked to travel in style. These
>were in addition to the two other Gulfstreams they bought after she first got
>hired. Prior to that, they had been down to only two jets, since Lew Platt
>had sold several others as an austerity measure before he left.
>
>
>> In the computer industry, with IBM selling with U.S. Government
>> Approval, their computer business to a Chinese company, we can expect
>> to see the market flooded in the near future with cheap IBM computers.
>> This will put a real strain on both HP and Dell.
>
>For many years now, consumer computers from HP, Compaq, Gateway, and others
>have been designed and built by contract manufacturers on mainland China.
>"Support" is generally provided by ill-trained contractors in India reading
>useless information off a computer monitor, in broken English.
>
>Whether Lenovo can take the money-losing IBM operation and turn a profit
>with it remains to be seen. The governmental approval was a joke, all the
>technology was transferred to China years ago and there just aren't any
>secrets left. Probably in three years, they will be cloning top-end Intel
>and AMD processors.
>
>Dell's an interesting case, they've been able to manufacture in the US
>successfully by innovative hardware design, and squeezing their vendors
>as hard as Wal-Mart does. I sure hope they can continue to be successful.
>
>-Dave
>
>
>>
>> Aghnis
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