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Anonymous
August 14, 2005 9:03:03 PM

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Just got a leftover Seagate 80 gig drive from my son. My boot drive (WinXP
SP2) is small is formatted with Fat32. The 80 gig drive is formatted with
NTFS. I have read that this file system shouldn't be used on drives smaller
than a couple hundred megs. Should I reformat it to Fat32? Any way to do
that without booting to a Win98 floppy? Will XP recognize the whole drive
as a single volume?

Thanks
Anonymous
August 14, 2005 10:33:27 PM

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Yes you can mix Drive formats. NTFS will work just fine with that 80gig
drive.

Bob Eyster



"Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com> wrote in message
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> Just got a leftover Seagate 80 gig drive from my son. My boot drive
> (WinXP SP2) is small is formatted with Fat32. The 80 gig drive is
> formatted with NTFS. I have read that this file system shouldn't be used
> on drives smaller than a couple hundred megs. Should I reformat it to
> Fat32? Any way to do that without booting to a Win98 floppy? Will XP
> recognize the whole drive as a single volume?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 15, 2005 1:05:14 AM

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Your drive is 80,000 megs, so where is the problem?
--
Ron Sommer

"Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com> wrote in message
news:D sudnZ2dnZ3hFVL_nZ2dnRIiYt-dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@comcast.com...
> Just got a leftover Seagate 80 gig drive from my son. My boot drive
> (WinXP SP2) is small is formatted with Fat32. The 80 gig drive is
> formatted with NTFS. I have read that this file system shouldn't be used
> on drives smaller than a couple hundred megs. Should I reformat it to
> Fat32? Any way to do that without booting to a Win98 floppy? Will XP
> recognize the whole drive as a single volume?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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August 15, 2005 3:44:12 AM

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Youve been reading incorrect info.
NTFS is the native format of winnt based sys, it is more secure than fat32
and more efficient

"Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com> wrote in message
news:D sudnZ2dnZ3hFVL_nZ2dnRIiYt-dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@comcast.com...
> Just got a leftover Seagate 80 gig drive from my son. My boot drive
(WinXP
> SP2) is small is formatted with Fat32. The 80 gig drive is formatted with
> NTFS. I have read that this file system shouldn't be used on drives
smaller
> than a couple hundred megs. Should I reformat it to Fat32? Any way to do
> that without booting to a Win98 floppy? Will XP recognize the whole drive
> as a single volume?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 15, 2005 11:01:32 PM

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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:44:12 +0100, "DL" <dl@spoofmail> wrote:

>Youve been reading incorrect info.

We'll check that later.

>NTFS is the native format of winnt based sys, it is more secure than fat32
>and more efficient

You've just read some typical info on NTFS that is incomplete, if not
actually incorrect.

Yes, NTFS is the native format of NT. That doesn't mean you should
use it, though it may mean you'll be pressured to use it.

Yes, NTFS is more secure than FAT32. But while "secure" is a great
feel-good word, it may not even be relevant to the way you use your
PC. NTFS systems get infected pretty much as easily as FATxx systems,
and if you have the rights to edit your data, any malware running
during your logon will have the right to trash it.

FATxx can be read by and written to by XP, older versions of Windows,
Linux (both HD-based and CD-booted), and DOS modes of Win9x running
from boot diskettes. The file system is well-documented and simple,
and can be maintained from DOS mode Scandisk that will stop and ask
before it "fixes" anything. And there are tools available that let
you (or your tech) hand-repair damaged file system structures.

NTFS can be read and written to by NT such as XP, and only within
compatibility limits that change as NT gets versioned upwards. XP
runs off HD only, unless you go the extra mile to build yourself a
Bart PE CDR that can do the same. There are no interactive repair
tools like Scandisk, no byte-level documentation on what is a far more
complex system, and no tools to manually fix anything.

So you'd better hope NTFS is "more robust", because if it gets barfed,
there are no tools to manually un-barf it and save your data.

Then again, no matter how well-designed a file system may be, it's
still dogmeat to anything that goes wrong below that level of
abstraction - say, bad RAM, failing hard drive, etc.

>"Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com> wrote in message

>> Just got a leftover Seagate 80 gig drive from my son. My boot drive
>> (WinXP SP2) is small is formatted with Fat32. The 80 gig drive is
>> formatted with NTFS. I have read that this file system shouldn't be
>>used on drives smaller than a couple hundred megs.

Well, an 80G HD isn't smaller than a couple of hundred megs. Or did
you mean gigs? I don't see any reason to not use NTFS for HD's in the
2G+ range, if I were considering using it at all. Perhaps it's just
that NTFS's scalability advantages aren't that relevant there.

>> Should I reformat it to Fat32? Any way to do that without booting to
>> a Win98 floppy? Will XP recognize the whole drive as a single volume?

XP will recognise FAT32 volumes right up to 200G+ (the limit is way
higher than that) but it's artificially crippled so that it can't
*format* FAT32 larger than 32G.

Win98's FDisk has problems of its own; the standard one may well not
be able to cope with an 80G hard drive. WinME's FDisk will handle 80G
fine, as will a "fixed" replacement for Win98's FDisk that was
available from MS as a free download. Both of these FDisks have
problems above 99G (they can't input or show those numbers properly)
and no DOS or Win9x is OK over 137G.

Win98's formatter may "look funny", but will format 80G just fine,
once something else has partitioned it a la FDisk.

I don't use any of these tools anymore; I gave up on MS for disk
management and use BING from www.bootitng.com instead. I don't
install it (in other words, I Esc the install-to-HD prompt), I just
use it as a partition manager, a mode it falls through to once you
decline the offer to install it to disk.



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Anonymous
August 23, 2005 6:14:30 PM

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Hi guys

As a complete 'newbie', still trying to get my head around the whole
FAT32/NTFS thing.

Let me run this one by you 'cause I think it's closely related to the
original question. I am trying to capture dvd video as MPEG. I'm
running FAT32 at the minute which, I'm led to believe, won't store more
than 4Gb files (?)

I know NTFS doesn't have this limitation, so........if I got hold of an
external HD and formatted/converted it to NTFS, will my XP Pro/FAT32 OS
be able to read & write from & to it? From the preceding answers I
would guess yes?

Thanks


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Tommo1
Anonymous
August 23, 2005 6:14:31 PM

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Tommo1 wrote:

> if I got hold of
> an external HD and formatted/converted it to NTFS, will my XP
> Pro/FAT32 OS be able to read & write from & to it? From the preceding
> answers I would guess yes?

Your guess is correct. Winodws XP can read and write any and all
combinations of NTFS, FAT32, FAT16, and FAT12, regardless of what file
system it itself is installed on.

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Ken Blake
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Anonymous
August 23, 2005 10:52:57 PM

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Tommo1 wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> As a complete 'newbie', still trying to get my head around the whole
> FAT32/NTFS thing.
>
> Let me run this one by you 'cause I think it's closely related to the
> original question. I am trying to capture dvd video as MPEG. I'm
> running FAT32 at the minute which, I'm led to believe, won't store more
> than 4Gb files (?)
>

If you mean that the maximum size of an individual file is limited to
4Gb, then you're correct.


> I know NTFS doesn't have this limitation, so........if I got hold of an
> external HD and formatted/converted it to NTFS, will my XP Pro/FAT32 OS
> be able to read & write from & to it? From the preceding answers I
> would guess yes?
>


Yes, it would. WinXP can read FAT12 (the file system used on 3.5"
diskettes), FAT16, FAT32, CDFS (the file system used on most CDs), and
NTFS with equal facility. Further, the file system on any one
disk/partition or diskette has absolutely no affect upon the operating
system's ability to read other compatible file systems on other
disks/partitions.

However, you don't necessarily have to get an external hard drive. You
can safely convert your current hard drive to NTFS whenever desired,
without having to format the partition and reinstall everything. As
always when performing any serious changes, back up any important data
before proceeding, just in case. A little advance preparation is also
strongly recommended, so you can avoid any performance hits caused by
the default cluster size:

Converting FAT32 to NTFS in Windows
http://www.aumha.org/a/ntfscvt.htm


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