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June 29, 2011 1:58:31 PM

Well, we call it "income redistribution".
June 29, 2011 3:48:33 PM

Your already hocked up to the eyeballs from sucking credit from the rest of the world and having a free ride at the expense of everyone else on the planet.

Watch Greece ... you will be next unless you do the same.

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July 4, 2011 10:10:02 AM

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July 4, 2011 1:00:57 PM

Reynod said:
Your already hocked up to the eyeballs from sucking credit from the rest of the world and having a free ride at the expense of everyone else on the planet.

Watch Greece ... you will be next unless you do the same.


That's a false analogy --- though it doesn't stop 'certain' folks from using it.

The government of Greece consumes 50% of GDP - and rising -- unless their latest austerity program works. In the USA that figure is currently 24-25% and will decline to 22% in the next 2 years even if nothing is done by Congress.

Greek revenues reflect 39-40% of GDP. This year in the States? That would be an anticipated 14.4% of GDP (the lowest level since 1950).

And though there is great reason to be concerned about the level of Federal Debt in the USA, only two-thirds of that debt is 'external' -- nearly $5 trillion is money borrowed from the trust funds.

That's another canard that certain folks spew. "Social Security and Medicare are bankrupting America!"

Well ... no. As a matter of fact, over the next 5 years another $1 trillion will be borrowed from the trust funds.










July 4, 2011 1:09:38 PM

So, since theyre picking on the poor man by constantly raising taxes, and take away monies removed from him thru special taxes for these explicit programs, the dems solution is to raise taxes, while others want to stop spending, no new taxes.
So, the little guy is supporting a good chunk of this debt at the dems high spending

And, while some say leave the little guy alone, I agree, quit spending so much money

The Greeks? Its the promised land, but they cant come thru on their promises, once again due to government handing out retirement and health care they cant afford
July 4, 2011 2:43:17 PM

Theres a few things that can be done, like improving the economy, extending age to benefits, eliminating top earnings contributions to SS etc, plus just start paying some of it back.
If youve worked 50 years with 15% of your earnings kept for retirement, thats full pay for at least 5 years, even allowing for inflation.
Whats happened is, those numbers were set for certain ages and longevity at the time, meaning youd only need 5 years or so worth of those monies before you died.
People are living longer, then let them work 55 years, and add a little to the length of repayment.
These arent promises of huge amounts like in Greece, these are results of a higher standard of living and a better medical result, resulting in longer longevity, so, I dont blame our leaders for this, other than spending some of this money to keep up with all their spending
July 4, 2011 2:53:51 PM

We have superannuation here ... and the pension for the poor.

Many of our older people are also working longer ... we need their skills and experience too.

I have 4 retired mentors who volunteer and assist our trade classes ... these oldtimers are invaluable and theiy enjoy it too.

In fact they have less sickies than my paid staff.

July 6, 2011 6:10:15 AM

you want happiest people in the world..?
to that i say, get your butt in a job that fits.

how many people who can walk are taking phone jobs?
what about all of the people in a wheelchair that would find the job a better fit, since they are already sitting in a chair all day?
sure.. not everybody wants to release themselves from physical activity because of physical health.
the chain of events should go something like this:
1. phone job for no physical activity
2. secretary job for a bump in physical activity
3. warehouse work (or forklift driver) for some more physical activity
4. factory work for the most physical activity

i know.. you could be a chef and get much of the same physical workout, but you also get in the way of other people because your chair takes up much room.
you own the building, or you were the first hired, fine.. no problem.

i do know that i dont run into people with physical problems often.
and it could seem absurd to appoint these people to a better work environment.
but
once physical activity is out of the way.. then there is mental aptitude.

i cannot count the number of times i have walked into a hardware store and the person knows less about what the store is selling than the person buying from the hardware store.

doesnt it make perfect sense that an enthusiastic construction person works at the hardware store to get employee discounts for their own projects.. and because they are experienced from their own projects, they would have advice and tips for the customers who come into the store?

i did exactly that while looking for a job.
looked for a place that i would absorb some employee discount for the things i enjoy.
not only would i be providing a discount for my own hobby.. i would have my head into the situation to help other people wanting to participate in the same hobby.
all of the electronic stores (the big name ones anyways) .. they all told me no.

i just dont get it..
if you like working on your vehicle.. be a mechanic and help other people with your experience.
you would be the one that doesnt strip bolt holes or strip nuts.
you would know how to get a broken bolt out faster and easier.
you would do gaskets better the first time.
since you enjoy working on your vehicle.. that is to say you enjoy the job, as if it is fun for you.

all jobs should be fun.. otherwise you have a problem.
when what you are doing is fun, AND you get paid for it.. that creates better mental health, as well as being more involved and thus more helpful for those who are giving you their money.
and if the job is really that much fun.. you could do it cheaper, and if the quality is good for a cheaper price.. you will get more work.
that means you have more fun and a little bit less money at the end.
as long as you are not underpayed.. it amounts to more fun.
some might say a whole life of fun will be gone before you know it.
other people would say, when you are having that much fun.. a lot can happen in a month.

what do these other people say?
a lot can happen in a year
or
a lot can happen in 10 years

imagine a single morning feels like a whole day.. and this continues for each and every day of your life until you are 90 years old.
you would be a real senior citizen.. not the ones who waste the first 30 years of their life and are finally moving to adulthood at ages from 30 - 60 (or 50 - 70).
July 6, 2011 11:24:00 AM

Yes time travels much slower when your in a depressed state ... that is a good sign that it is time to review medication.

Coming off a manic high can be really tough to deal with and that is why it is important to stabilise your medication and not allow yourself to get too absorbed in one thing.

July 7, 2011 5:06:02 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
Social security and medicare combined have $98.2 Trillion in unfunded liabilities promised to future generations.

So yeah, they are bankrupting the USA.




And those "unfunded liabilities" are roughly 2% of GDP over the next 75-80 years before means testing, raising the retirement age, and reducing health care expenses, et al, as a percentage of GDP.

You left that part out, now, didn't you?

You also left out the part about SS being fully funded through 2037, with the projected revenue stream beyond that year fully funding benefits at a 75% level before any changes are made to the current benefit structure.

And that is your definition of bankruptcy? :lol: 



July 7, 2011 9:03:15 PM

unfunded liability to me is quite clear.
it means the money was taken from the earth and is expected to get paid back.
what does this do?
it allows the government to open its doors and produce products, sell 'em and bring the profit home to the account that is to be paid.
and the only reason it needs to be paid is because of the game that the government doesnt have unlimited funds.. even though they do, but chose to work with other 'teams' to support a family atmosphere.
and with that, the government needs to have an account of their money to stop spending when they dont have it, and continue to spend when they do have it.
it provides jobs for people who like to crunch numbers.. and it was inevitable that those types of people would exist.
as families work with the government.. they can get awfully wealthy, and they want to distribute that wealth whenever and however they see fit.
meaning more ways to channel the money, more reason to channel the money since the number of things they own is going to sky rocket.. and it all provides a blanket for people who enjoy working with numbers.

a lot of times people will cry out 'that isnt fair' or 'how the hell did they do that?'
and it boils down to where the money came from mostly.
acting specifically as to who owns that money is quite another level of number crunching entirely.. meaning even more jobs.

some monitoring will be done inevitably, since we all know it is best to see it all or not try at all.. and that creates some jobs too.
the IRS has grown astronomically.. and since the richest of the rich work with the government already, there is nothing left for the IRS to do but watch people spend their money.
and good for them.. because people should get what they deserve.
no sense working extra hard every day without getting any credit for it.
if nobody around you gives you any credit, then you should deserve some more.
and it is all picked up by those secret cameras and microphones.
i love those things to death.
and if you have problems with 'em.. just expect them to be absolutely everywhere and the majority of the time a robot is watching and waiting to flag something.
motion capture can easily detect one person physically beating another person.
audio translated to text can easily be screened by a computer and be programmed to raise a flag when any of the words come together that are good or bad.
since it isnt a human watching.. it shouldnt be a big deal.
although, some might say a 'big deal' is when the lesser important folks get their chance at raising their profile thanks to the cameras and microphones.
really a beautiful thing for me, something i am very proud of.
the world leaders cant always be there to babysit and learn what you deserve.
but if a computer sees you doing good.. maybe it will print out some coupons for you and magically send them in the mail.
July 9, 2011 3:26:33 AM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
"projected" words mean things.

SS will be bankrupt by 2025. Probably sooner since we seem hell bent on giving SS benefits to illegals.

Keep up your Cloward and Piven there wisecracker.


You are entitled to your opinion.

You are not entitled to make up ass-facts, spew fear, and regurgitate crap coupled with xenophobic non-sequiturs.

Just a little heads up for yah, chum -- the cumulative GDP of the United States of America over the next 75-80 years will exceed 3,000 trillion dollars, and while challenges exist, here is one you didn't see coming:

Projected Medicare costs over 75 years are about 25 percent lower because of provisions in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or what 'you guys' love to call, Obama Care.

Just think how better Medicare would look if George Bush and the Republican Congress had provided ANY funding for the Part D Big Pharma Tax Money Give-A-Way which currently sodomizes taxpayers to the tune of $60-$70 billion/yr.
July 9, 2011 4:04:03 PM

The only things itll do are 2 for sure, one is, itll eliminate fraud, the other is, every mother with a kid with sniffles will be going to the doc
July 10, 2011 10:54:05 AM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
The only things itll do are 2 for sure, one is, itll eliminate fraud, the other is, every mother with a kid with sniffles will be going to the doc


That's not the experience other countries have had: in fact Americans already visit clinics more often than Europeans. Of course that is an average: a portion of the American population with expensive health insurance visits clinics extremely often, while a poorer segment often dies of diseases that could have been treated (and much cheaoer too) if they were caught at a yearly physical, which this segment of the population doesn't go to, fearing high bills.
July 10, 2011 11:10:46 AM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
Oh I know its "projected" to cost less in the future, because care will be rationed. Yes, grandma will just "get the pain pill" instead of the heart surgery, as Obama himself stated.

If you deny this ^^ you are being intellectually dishonest.


Healthcare is already rationed in every country on Earth, including the United States. The only difference is the means of deciding who gets what: in the US the highest bidder gets the most care, in other countries it's the person who needs it the most (on medical grounds). Considering it's infinitely more likely any of us will end up being the person needing treatment the most, rather than being the highest bidder, I don't think it's a difficult choice. Only the means differ, not the fact that there is always rationing: becasue in the end there are never enough donor organs (which should go to young people with some disease, not old, rich people who've wasted their own organs through smoking and drinking) and heart surgery for grandma is useless when she's likely to die from one of her other 17 ills within months (in addition to there being a 40% chance grandma will die at the operating table) while a younger, but poorer person needs that heart surgery (and has a 95% chance of surviving the operation and go on to have many healthy years after that), this is called solidarity, or just common sense and it's something the elderly in other countries understand and agree with. Yes they want medical treatment, but they don't want to take away a liver or kidney from a child. When there are lives at stake it should be about the lives themselves, not the bank accounts of those lives, after all, when you rescue people after a disaster you don't go around asking people about their wealth, now do you?
July 10, 2011 11:31:29 AM

Reynod said:
http://www.news.com.au/national/oecd-rates-australians-...

We are possibly poor deluded fools according to Niesche though ...meh.

:) 

P.S the model is a typical urban houswife here ... she is 45.


Damn, that used to be us Dutch (in the previous study), but yeah, we don't have Australia's weather... and no crocs either...
July 10, 2011 12:16:45 PM

Gulli said:
That's not the experience other countries have had: in fact Americans already visit clinics more often than Europeans. Of course that is an average: a portion of the American population with expensive health insurance visits clinics extremely often, while a poorer segment often dies of diseases that could have been treated (and much cheaoer too) if they were caught at a yearly physical, which this segment of the population doesn't go to, fearing high bills.

This is Obama care, he isnt president of the world.....yet
July 10, 2011 12:19:11 PM

Gulli said:
Healthcare is already rationed in every country on Earth, including the United States. The only difference is the means of deciding who gets what: in the US the highest bidder gets the most care, in other countries it's the person who needs it the most (on medical grounds). Considering it's infinitely more likely any of us will end up being the person needing treatment the most, rather than being the highest bidder, I don't think it's a difficult choice. Only the means differ, not the fact that there is always rationing: becasue in the end there are never enough donor organs (which should go to young people with some disease, not old, rich people who've wasted their own organs through smoking and drinking) and heart surgery for grandma is useless when she's likely to die from one of her other 17 ills within months (in addition to there being a 40% chance grandma will die at the operating table) while a younger, but poorer person needs that heart surgery (and has a 95% chance of surviving the operation and go on to have many healthy years after that), this is called solidarity, or just common sense and it's something the elderly in other countries understand and agree with. Yes they want medical treatment, but they don't want to take away a liver or kidney from a child. When there are lives at stake it should be about the lives themselves, not the bank accounts of those lives, after all, when you rescue people after a disaster you don't go around asking people about their wealth, now do you?

Im not sure how old you are, but getting on a list for transplants et al has been used for years, and I know several people who waited it out on a case by case, first come, by severity, first served

PS Be careful not toswallow the Obama pill, it makes you claim others are throwing grandma under the bus, while those who take it actually want to
July 10, 2011 12:45:55 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
Im not sure how old you are, but getting on a list for transplants et al has been used for years, and I know several people who waited it out on a case by case, first come, by severity, first served

PS Be careful not toswallow the Obama pill, it makes you claim others are throwing grandma under the bus, while those who take it actually want to


I've taken that pill for most of my life (the time I didn't live in the US) and I must say it tasted rather sweet. Much sweeter than the corporate healthcare pill and much cheaper and more reliable as well (just the fact that the people who are supposed to arrange treatment for you don't get a bonus for finding a way to deny you said treatment offers a certain peace of mind, which itself results in overall health). Of course Obama Care is a monster compared to Western European, Anzac, Japanese, Korean, Chilean, Argentinian or Canadian healthcare), but compared to its American predecessor (where even a newborn baby could be denied treatment and subsequently die because of a "pre-existing" condition) it's the best thing since sliced bread. Come live in a "socialist" country for a while and drink the koolaid. Or just keep slaving to subsidize your insurers fleet of corporate jets, your choice, just don't force it on others who can't afford $5000 a year, per person in premiums...
July 10, 2011 12:56:49 PM

It depends on those corporate jets depreciation, as well as US citizens attitude towards Obama care, doesnt it?
If Obama already has offered corporate depreciation benefits, al hes doing is changing what those before himalready did, just a differing format.
Same with Obama care, grandma goes under the bus, corporations get waivers, and things dont change, but dont it make Obama look good?
July 10, 2011 1:12:40 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
It depends on those corporate jets depreciation, as well as US citizens attitude towards Obama care, doesnt it?
If Obama already has offered corporate depreciation benefits, al hes doing is changing what those before himalready did, just a differing format.
Same with Obama care, grandma goes under the bus, corporations get waivers, and things dont change, but dont it make Obama look good?


Like I said: it's horrible compared to other countries, but since it at least forces insurers to accept people with pre-existing conditions, it's a small step forward. It would have been a much greater step if republicans hadn't filibustered the crap out of every little detail just for the sake of always voting the opposite of the Obama administration. I'm telling you: republican representatives would sell their mothers if Obama told them not to.

American insurance is a bitch: $5000 a year leaves a whopping $600 per month to live off (after federal taxes, but before state, county and municipal taxes) for those working 40 hours a week (so by no means lazy leeches) at minimum wage. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that with the cost of healthcare insurance and education rising faster than wages an underclass is being created that would not look out of place in an Indian or Chinese slum. This cannot go on and the election of Obama is a sign from these people that they are fed up and are giving politicians one last chance to fix things peacefully. If politicians continue to hand out tax cuts to the rich and the corporations and waste billions in Afghanistan rather than fixing healthcare and education than sh*t will hit the fan and Greek-style riots will ensue.
July 10, 2011 1:23:10 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=video&cd=1&ved=0C...

I dont see your point here


That's BS: all representatives get a chance to read bills before they vote on them, whether or not they do that is their own choice. Of course Nanci Pelosi wasn't addressing congress in that clip (but that's just an irrelevant "detail" to Faux News, who didn't even bother to at least photoshop the background to make it look like she was even in the Capitol). And from the rest of her speech (not the 10 second sound bite, corresponding nicely to Faux News viewer's attention span) it is clear she is talking about the effects of the bill on average Joe, not the text of the bill.
July 10, 2011 1:32:02 PM

I believe the nonchalance, exuberance and total disregard to her office reflects quite well what we got, what she exemplifies and why again, this climate has to change
July 10, 2011 1:44:59 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
I believe the nonchalance, exuberance and total disregard to her office reflects quite well what we got, what she exemplifies and why again, this climate has to change


But you do admit Faux News was BS'ing about her?
July 10, 2011 2:22:16 PM

Not sure of whom on fox youre refering to
Some there arent news types, theyre a spin on the conservative side, but not all are, which is a far cry from any other media source, where most "on the other side" or in the middle,have already left and are working for fox.
July 10, 2011 6:48:10 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
There is no talking to this guy jaydee. The truth doesn't matter to him. If it doesn't advance his agenda then it is wrong, even if it is factually right.


BS: that video of Nancy Pelosi was falsely labelled by Faux News as being a speech before congress, this has been proven, you know, as in a fact. ext thing you'll be calling gravity a socialist conspiracy.
July 10, 2011 7:33:15 PM

Outside the closed-door Democratic Caucus meeting, he brushed aside concerns that Democrats cannot pass a bill without the votes of Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) and other anti-abortion members.


“We have not discussed a third way,” Hoyer told reporters. “I’ve talked to Mr. Stupak, but I made it clear I wasn’t negotiating. It is clear that that matter cannot be dealt with per se in the reconciliation bill. We’ll have to deal with it pretty much as it is at this point in time.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34335.html

"You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.
But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
Again, like a kid in a candy shop, dangerous for us, regardless if it were much much better than it is
July 11, 2011 9:39:50 AM

Gulli said:
when you rescue people after a disaster you don't go around asking people about their wealth, now do you?


i think when you go around helping people after a disaster their wealth of personality shows itself, either by the words they say.. or their vital signs.
July 11, 2011 9:53:51 AM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
There is no talking to this guy jaydee. The truth doesn't matter to him. If it doesn't advance his agenda then it is wrong, even if it is factually right.


the above sentence just goes to show how facts are not always the truth.
to say, if the truth is he deserves something other than what he has been given.. regardless of those 'other' things being fact.. it isnt doing him a bit of good.
and that is what happens when people are starved.
being starved can come from a whole list of things.
to say one was abused is to say they were starved from better treatment.
to say one was neglected is to say they were starved from focus.
the list goes on.
July 11, 2011 11:57:01 AM

Apparently so pos(t)ers in here dont realize that the "rich" pay 80% of all taxes already...

thats an interesting fact...


edit: for clarity:
Top 1% pay 37% of all tax
Top 20% pay 88% of all tax
Top 50% pay 97% of all tax

July 11, 2011 1:40:50 PM

Wisecracker said:
You are entitled to your opinion.

You are not entitled to make up ass-facts, spew fear, and regurgitate crap coupled with xenophobic non-sequiturs.

Just a little heads up for yah, chum -- the cumulative GDP of the United States of America over the next 75-80 years will exceed 3,000 trillion dollars, and while challenges exist, here is one you didn't see coming:

Projected Medicare costs over 75 years are about 25 percent lower because of provisions in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or what 'you guys' love to call, Obama Care.

Just think how better Medicare would look if George Bush and the Republican Congress had provided ANY funding for the Part D Big Pharma Tax Money Give-A-Way which currently sodomizes taxpayers to the tune of $60-$70 billion/yr.


I liked your first two sentences to much I wanted to read them in my post ... heh heh.

:) 
July 17, 2011 2:00:20 PM

we can solve all our money problems just cutting the defense budget alone. we spend what 23%gdp on defense when our worst enemy is fought with intelligence and a dozen navy seals? why are we still preparing to fight aliens when we dont even have a shuttle program?

i just think we keep our intelligence communities strong and our research well funded, but the actual production of force in the droves that we do it just isnt necessary.
July 18, 2011 7:43:02 AM

Its clear I should be in charge ... here are the things I would do:

1. Make the gun licenses $500 per year per waapon - tax to the govt;
2. Institute a decent medicare system indexed to income (2% should do it);
3. Revitalise NASA and increase research grants / funding the Unis, and increase international student revenue to compensate;
4. Reexamine tiered tax brackets and increase corporate tax - but give large companies other incentives to employ more workers;
5. Insitite a decent superannuation system;
6. Offer a decent first home buyer's incentive to build;
7. Put a BCITF / CTF system in place for training in construction / engineering;
8. Offer critical skills list training at subsidised rates (cheaper loans for doctors / nurses in trg for instance);
9. Mandate all state and federal agencies to keep under budget ... law.
10. Clean out state debt through federal funds;
11. Offer a decent solar rebate for grid connect households / solar water / grey water etc.
12. Start a large federal funded green project on power - wind turbines / wave generators / solar heat farms in deserts ...
13. Improve nuclear safety but invest in more nuclear power with fed regulation to include more representation from the community.
13. Reduce the number of political positions.
14. Engage all armed forces in any front line natural disaster as a given.
15. Substantially increase research into food production in the US - farmers are to be placed on the highest platform in terms of support for sustainable production ... areas that were overfarmed to be revitalised ... GM modifid food to be rigourously examined;
16. Unemployment benefits to be offset by community work programs (farmland revitalisation as an example but each according to their abilities) for those unable to gain work after 6 mths.
17. Wind back overseas deployment in warzones not considered a priority for US;
18. Reexamine all overseas aid programs and reduce;
19. tired now ... will add more.

heh heh ...
17.
August 21, 2011 12:27:47 PM

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