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May 8, 2003 1:36:39 AM

<update006>
Problem fixed?

i took out everything and just went one by one until it errored on IDE ribben cable. I took it out and put in a "new" one. seems fine now. Only got one "end point format is invalid" error. however that was after i ran regedit. turned it off and back on it was fine. restored the back up from regcleaner. have rebooted 3 times since then and not one problem since then. I have everything installed like normal and not a problem now.

i still get error event ID 7001 - which i think is down below somewhere. just do a find...->"7001"

i'm crossing my fingures ... i hope that was the problem. stupid ribben cable! The ribben cable was tied to the zip drive and dvd-rom. NOT the hard drives. However - it could be possible those are bad too??? SOunds like i need to buy a rack of new ribbon cables.

update 005 is at anandtech.com
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<Update004>
Ugh it just doesn't make any sense!!! I went and played around with it and eventually the USB devices kicked out my network card didn't work and my santa cruz sound card coiuldn't be started. everytime i fix it and reboot (the sound and network card wouldn't work) it would just kick out again.

When i transfer over to my other windows xp hard drive everything is fine!!!!

I have 2 hard drives on RAID ok. they are the 2 80GB WD SE drives. I have one 60GB maxtor drive. Both of these setups have windows xp installed. the RAID setup took a [-peep-] and the maxtor is still working. It's NOT the RAID because i tried with just a single drive and got the SAME errors. it's NOT the hard drives because i've been having these SAME exact problems with my other maxtor drives too. Just for SOME reason THIS maxtor setup works. I've done nothing different to the drives though.

I'm tempted to run drive copy but then i have to back up the drive again and that takes forever. I guess it's worth a try.

what do you guys think!? what would you do!? do you even understand whats going on? can you fill me in! cos i have no idea!

thanks!
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<update003>
weird - i turned on my computer this moring - it wouldn't post? first time it has ever done that. i turn it off and back on and it posted.

i booted up and i got "end point format is invalid". i rebooted and went into safe mode and used system restore. it worked. it booted up fine and i created another system restore point.
</update003>

<update002>
Holy crap it booted up!

I was in safe mode and then i just did little things. I updated the highpoint drivers and disabled "Write cache" for the zip drive.

here are the common errors i get now. i cleared the event viewer and just rebooted. These events are fresh.

"The Sentinel service depends on the Parport service which failed to start because of the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."
Source: Service Control Manager; Category: none; event: 7001; user: N/A

"An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk1\D during a paging operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."
Source: disk; Category: none; event: 51; user: N/A

This one pops up a lot. it's just a warning but it is there a lot.
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<update001>
so i'm in safe mode now and these are from the event viewer. Maybe someone here can decipher them.

"Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Unexpected error calling routine CoCreateInstance. hr = 0x80040206.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."
Source: VSS; Category: none; event: 8193; user: N/A

"The COM+ Event System detected a bad return code during its internal processing. HRESULT was 8007043C from line 44 of d:\nt\com\com1x\src\events\tier1\eventsystemobj.cpp. Please contact Microsoft Product Support Services to report this error.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."
Source: Event System; Category: (50); event: 4609; user: N/A

these appear often at the sametime.

I just noticed this;

"The driver detected that the device \Device\Harddisk0\DR0 has its write cache enabled. Data corruption may occur.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

how do i disable write cache? i can't find it anywhere.

Now this seems to be appearing a lot. Whats funny is that this windows install didn't have a drive D. I just made the hard drive just one big drive with NTFS.

"An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk1\D during a paging operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

This looks seiorus though!
"The driver detected a controller error on \Device\CdRom1.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

</update001>


I've been asking this same question all the time because i keep getting the same errors. Errors that crash my system and i gotta reinstall or use system restore.

I keep getting "Delayed write fail" errors. says something about some hardware not working. But evyerthing is working fine. sound is fine, hard drives are brand new and fine, cpu is brand new and fine, video card is new and fine. The only thing that seems ppossible - would be MAYBE the sound card or the motherboard. But, how do you know if it's the motherboard thats bad or the sound card or what?

another error i get is "endpoint format is invalid" - this just crashes my system completely. I have to go in safe mode and run system restore. There is no work around.

anyone got a clue? at all? anything? i don't care if you think it's stupid!

thanks!



"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=9933" target="_new"> My Rig </A><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by xxsk8er101xx on 05/09/03 04:00 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
May 8, 2003 2:15:28 AM

Let's have some info on your system!

To start press any key. Where's the "any" key? --Homer Simpson.
May 8, 2003 2:16:32 AM

Man, I know that your upgrading right now. So lots of things have changed for you. I'd say to narrow it down that you start with bare bones & flesh it out form there. You know how to do that. The next thing I would look at would be your PSU. I'm sure you know what time of day it is with that. Those are the only suggestions that I can give right off the bat & neither of them seem to be of much help. I'll be checking on you to see how it goes. Good luck,

Skinny

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
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May 8, 2003 2:19:04 AM

Duh. Perhaps if I clicked on My Rig?

To start press any key. Where's the "any" key? --Homer Simpson.
May 8, 2003 2:24:53 AM

I'd have to agree with rcpilot. You have a lot of crap in there. It might take a while but I'm sure you'll be able to narrow it down. If I had to take a shot in the dark I'd say it's probably a RAM issue.

To start press any key. Where's the "any" key? --Homer Simpson.
May 8, 2003 2:41:33 AM

The following are brand new:
-Enermax 431watt PSU
-ati aiw 9700 pro
-3.06ghz cpu
-dvd burner
-hard drives 2x80GB
-even the sound card is actualy fairly new

*shrugs*

"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=9933" target="_new"> My Rig </A>
May 8, 2003 2:49:53 AM

the problem is is that it is a random error. I do not know how to recreate it on demand. I've been getting the error for a long time. Since i upgraded to this motherboard. I thought it was the sound card so i got a new sound card and i've been trying to fix the problem since then.

It could be both the RAM and motherboard i bet. when i upgraded to Intel, i went to test out the gigabyte board to give to my bro and it kept crashing. so i popped in my stick of ram to see if it was the ram. i turn it on and it started smoking. it being whatever that was smoking. i don't know. it wasn't the cpu cos that works. i bet it was the RAM.

The reason i think it could be the motherboard is because the onboard ethernet and one USB port doesn't work. what else doesn't work? ya know ...

meh ...



"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=9933" target="_new"> My Rig </A>
May 8, 2003 2:57:43 AM

Smoke? That's not good. Have you tried disabling the affected lan and USB ports in the BIOS? See if you get the errors with them disabled.

To start press any key. Where's the "any" key? --Homer Simpson.
May 8, 2003 3:12:11 AM

bah it's a confusing mess. let me try to explain better.

I had an AMD motherboard last year actually. I updated to an intel because i was sick of AMD. I got my intel setup and put it together. it was fine.

i wanted to give my old setup to my bro. I tried my stick of memory because i thought the other stick was bad. it started to smoke. so i quickly turned it off and i took out my stick of memory and put it in my new setup i had. Then i told my bro the bad news (he was running a k6-2 500mhz and wanted an upgrade).

i hope that is clear now.

but i bet your right. i bet the RAM is bad because of that.

also yes i disabled the lan and audio. i can't disable the usb ports. Awhile ago, i was using the onboard lan and then i started getting tons of "Delay write failure" errors one day and i noticed it mentioned that the hardware metnioned was the ethernet. i disabled it and used a NIC card and i'm still using it. it seem to have gottin rid of it.

Then on day i re-installed windows again and it just worked and have been. Infact it is still working now. But, everytime i try to reinstall the OS on whatever drive i choose i get these errors after awhile. They are random errors.

I had problems with my hard drive though, it was just slow and stalled my computer, so i got a new power supply and that fixed it. So I bet my OLD power supply was bad.

bah - it's just soo many things. i can't pin point it. I use everything i have installed so i can't just take something out.

ugh even i'm confused!!!!!!!!

"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

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May 8, 2003 3:25:29 AM

Whoa! I just got a head rush. Well... good luck with all of that! :lol: 

To start press any key. Where's the "any" key? --Homer Simpson.
May 8, 2003 3:26:50 AM

Take a breath & step back a minute. It could very well be your RAM. But to make sure of it. Take it down to bare bones & start over with the build. You'll find it. You've got the knowledge to do it. Time is all it takes.

Above all, a good friend once told me, All learning comes form frustration. Once your frustrated enough the answer will appear & you'll never forget it. Sounds like your about there now. Look for the light bulb to turn on.

Then again maybe I'm up to late tonight.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 8, 2003 3:41:57 AM

bah i don't wanna spend anymore money though.

i'll try that friday i guess ... thanks

ya know whats funny is that i tried looking up these errors and nothing. absoluelty nothing. You would think microsoft would have something on "end point format is invalid" but no there is nothing on it. only for coding.

"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

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May 8, 2003 4:05:52 AM

I know money becomes an issue. See what happens you may be surprised in the end. I'm just trying to give you some confidence is all I'm doing. I know you well enough through the forum that I know you'll figure it out. Sorry that your having these problem though. I look at it as learning curve. You've got all the components to work with & soon it will be over. I do hope the support helps. That's all I can give at this point.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 8, 2003 2:19:29 PM

i have an idea what i can do.

When i boot up the computer i get that message "end point format is invalid" so windows never boots. only works when i put it in safe mode. So i'm just gonna take each part out one by one and see if it clears the error.

Even the video card i'll try too. I got that old radeon card so.

once everything is gone and video card is replaced i'll just reinstall windows again and see if i get the error after awhile. if not plug one thing at a time until i get the error. sound like a plan?

blah painful one at that.

I wanna be 100% sure it's the motherboard/RAM before i spend the 400 bucks. I'd have to replace both at the same time. Not a good idea to take good RAM and pop it in a board thats bad. it'll fry your RAM. ALso not a good idea to take a good board and pop in bad ram. It could be possible to short out your motherboard. So replacing both is a good idea.

alright well thats tomarrow. i'm gonna enjoy work because ahhh i don't care. kind of like office space ;) 

laterz

"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

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May 8, 2003 4:11:20 PM

Are you running WinXP? Is there anything being logged in the event log?
May 8, 2003 4:40:46 PM

Did you happen to do any of the tweaks from <A HREF="http://www.tweaktown.com" target="_new">Tweaktown?</A>

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May 8, 2003 5:12:22 PM

Sounds like a plan to me. I always build them that way. Get the OS to laod & then 1 thing at a time until I know it's solid.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 8, 2003 6:04:25 PM

Sooooo... RMA the board and get another one.

Also, that delayed write error can be caused if you have the write chache enabled... look in device manager at your drive properties and turn off the write cache. It could be conflicting with the Raid drivers.


---><font color=green>It ain't better if it don't work</font color=green><---
May 8, 2003 6:55:08 PM

RMA? i don't even know if the board IS bad. I hate calling tech support and dealing with that crap. After a week of dealing with them you gotta wait 2 weeks before you get your replacement. Meanwhile you have no computer.

As for the "Write cache" where do i disable that? i remember seeing that in the scsi properties.

wouldn't turning off the write cache retard the performance?

"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

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May 8, 2003 7:10:58 PM

no - these are constant random errors that have been going on for a year now.

"delay write failure" and "endpoint format is invlaid" are the two errors i constantly get and have been for a year.

"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

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May 9, 2003 8:47:13 AM

dont know if anyone already said this but i think its your raid that is the problem. try disabling the raid and running on a single hdd and see if that cures it. maybe that your raid controller has gone down
May 9, 2003 3:32:21 PM

ya i thought the samething. so last week cos i was having the same problems. I took out raid and put it on the single drive and same exact problem and the same errors on the same raid controller.

Could it be the RAID controller itself. could be ... Anyway i can test it right now? nope. Can i afford a motherboard right now for 250 dollars for revisions 1.0, no.

I suppose a way to find out would be to buy a RAID controller card. bleh ... *shrugs*

"Bread makes me poop!" - Special Ed

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