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FOR SALE: 3200+ 400MHz FSB Athlon

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May 12, 2003 2:54:18 PM

* For anyone planning to build a high-end AMD Athlon system, ExcaliberPC has <A HREF="http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id..." target="_new">3200+ for sale</A> at $488 (price subject to change).

* It uses Barton core, has 400MHz FSB and operates at 2.2GHz.
May 12, 2003 4:42:03 PM

Did I miss it? I don't believe I've seen the benches on it yet. Though I could have missed them.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
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May 12, 2003 5:26:41 PM

Yea I've been kind of waiting. My whole propose with messing with the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe revision 2.0 board was to get the a 400 FSB Barton in it someday. I know after that, socket A is dead, but at least I'll have the highest 400 Barton made at the end of the line to pep it up down the road a ways someday.

Benches should be out soon then I would imagine.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 13, 2003 1:31:27 AM

Way not worth the money.

My $130 Barton 2500+ runs 200/400 FSB and is clocked higher than the 3200+ on average cooling.
May 13, 2003 1:57:56 AM

Yeah, this is definetly not an overclocker's choice.
May 13, 2003 2:08:56 AM

You can say that again. Right now $100 to $150 buys a lot of processing power with a different FSB's to choose from.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 13, 2003 5:23:28 AM

Why are you buying an 3200+ when you can get an Intel 3.0 for less and its faster.
May 13, 2003 6:01:46 AM

For myself, I would get a P4 3.0C/Canterwood setup for a high-end system. But, there are those who prefer AMD and i'm just letting them know that this processor is available.
May 13, 2003 8:17:14 AM

I don't understand why one would buy an XP 3200+ and pay three times the cost of a XP 2700+ which is able to run faster then a 3000+.
Moreover it is necessary also to buy a new mobo just to operate at 200 MHz (instead of 166÷190 oc of the previous A7N8X model) measuring a negligible performances increase but a huge sacrifice of his wallet !
Who has money to spend seriously (after taking all the possible amusements life offers) can change on an Intel platform and buying something that seems to have still road ahead, while AMD seems have reached the end of its road with 32 bit processor.

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May 13, 2003 9:27:17 AM

Tom's has a review now.... What the hell AMD? I still can't bring myself to own a P4, but AMD is starting to piss me off. Maybe I'll buy a VIA processor.......

Water cooling is for the weak. Get liquid nitrogen.
May 13, 2003 10:02:24 AM

Skligmund. Who is managing AMD ? How many efforts are they doing without reaching significant results ? Did you find any real improvements since two years ago (XP 1800+) ?
All of us were waiting for "lightning fast" CPU, and AMD brought out a CPU capable of the same performances of the CPU I have (from AMD) since 6 months ago and paid one third then the actual price of the new one ! This let me to think that the new AMD 64 will be something like the XP 2000 !! when installed on a workstation.

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May 13, 2003 10:31:49 AM

They could have, and definitely <i>should</i> have, given this chip a clock speed of 2.3Ghz <i>minimum</i>, preferably 2.4Ghz. Many of the cores are capable of this speed, and AMD have damn nearly lost this AMD fan. I bought an XP1700+ for £50 shipped, and that's running at 2245Mhz (195*11.5) without any real effort at all, so I'm probably damn near the performance of a processor that costs nearly <i><b>seven</i></b> times the price of my current one...

It simply ain't worth the 3200+ rating - it loses to a 2.5Ghz P4 in some benchies! 2.3 or 2.4 and it would've had a hope, but I guess AMD want those available for the XP3400+ and 5000+ :wink: PR ratings or something...

I can happily accept that they don't quite perform as well as the top of the line P4s. they just need to make sure there's an attractive price/perf ratio, and be honest.

They're screwing their credibility with people who know, and screwing over those people who don't.



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May 13, 2003 11:01:03 AM

AMD maybe is good at building cpu's but they sure as hell suck at rating them

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May 13, 2003 11:40:18 AM

Well timed that one about right. The benches don't look good for the 3200. I might have messed with the v 2.0 board for nothing. I guess it depends on how high they'll take it before they switch. Yea unless something happens with AMD in the next year, it will have to be Intel for me. That hasn't happened since the Celery 450. LOL

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 13, 2003 12:02:17 PM

It would have to be intel for me now for a high-end system. Perhaps that will change in the future with Athlon 64. I'm not completely loyal to either AMD or Intel. I just pick whatever is the best choice at the time.
May 13, 2003 12:28:19 PM

Yea I'd say the same for me if I had to build a high end machine right now. I've been doing some of the 2200, 2400, & 2500's. The prices in that range are just to hard to beat right now & the value is there. Have to see about the 64 bit like you say. AMD needs something like the FX5900 U about now on the top end that's apparent.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 13, 2003 2:27:14 PM

The new 3200+ is just awful. Best for AMD would be to downrate it to 2900+ or 3000+. 3200+? Hell no, not even close.

My system: AMD Athlon XP 3000+ CPU / TwinMOS 1Gb DDR400 / Soltek 75FRN-RL /
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro / Antec True Power 550W / Maxtor 80Gb ATA-133 / Hercules GTXP SC /
Samsung DVD / Lite-On CDRW
May 13, 2003 3:15:21 PM

I agree. I wish that Socket A went out with a bang instead of a whimper. It's kind of sad in a way.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 13, 2003 3:39:16 PM

I guess AMD just tries desperately to find a way to keep apace with Intel. Obviously they don't care if it's done in deceitful manner.

I'm starting to believe that there really ain't that much difference between AMD and Intels "strong-arming" tactics.
That's something for every diehard AMD fan to realize.


My system: AMD Athlon XP 3000+ CPU / TwinMOS 1Gb DDR400 / Soltek 75FRN-RL /
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro / Antec True Power 550W / Maxtor 80Gb ATA-133 / Hercules GTXP SC /
Samsung DVD / Lite-On CDRW
May 13, 2003 3:48:20 PM

3200+ is definately weak sauce and I would NEVER pay that much for any CPU, but I will continue to buy AMD to try to take market share from Intel. That is our only hope to keep prices within our stratosphere.
May 13, 2003 3:53:22 PM

but why didn"t they just give it a 3000+ rating (together with a higher clock speed 2.25ghz just isn't enough)

i mean my PIV 2.4 on a P4PE mobo and corsair ddr 400 on a 160FSB does it better in pcmark, i got the memory at 2-3-3-8T and no vmod and this CPU sure as hell didn't cost me 469$


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May 13, 2003 4:01:09 PM

It's rated at XP 3200+ because AMD really wants the market to believe that the CPU is indeed capable of performing equal to the P4 3.2.

I did believe that AMD could be able to clock the AXP at 2.4 Ghz or above, guess that wasn't the case.


My system: AMD Athlon XP 3000+ CPU / TwinMOS 1Gb DDR400 / Soltek 75FRN-RL /
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro / Antec True Power 550W / Maxtor 80Gb ATA-133 / Hercules GTXP SC /
Samsung DVD / Lite-On CDRW
May 13, 2003 4:14:55 PM

Yes Sir, I will use AMD's also as long as I see that I'm not in a VW next to a Corvette. I hope the Hammer is some chip. In the $45 to $150 market you buy a lot of CPU with AMD right now. It needs to at least stay that way if AMD doesn't want take the top spot. How long can that really last though? Not long I don't believe.

If it ain't broke, take it apart & see why not!
May 13, 2003 8:32:45 PM

No, by doing so you are encouraging them to go on using very unethical tactics. By not buying, you prove their marketting dept they are not doing their job, and therefore the company needs to restructure their products.

Stop buying high-end AMDs, buy low-end only if it's worth it or still supported, but just, stop thinking it helps them compete, because THEY HAVEN'T SINCE AND AREN'T AND WON'T FOR A WHILE.

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