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April 22, 2004 5:24:54 AM

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Two LCD monitors, one a 15-inch using its native 1024x768 resolution, and
the other a 17-inch using its native 1280x1024 resolution. Which one would
have the bigger icons, text, and images? If I were to take a ruler and
measure the same desktop icons or webpage images on the two different
monitors, which would have the larger stuff (in other words, easier on my
aging eyes). Thank you all.

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Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.

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Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 22, 2004 6:07:04 AM

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as a way to compare the physical differences you can do this calculation...
17" lcd is about 13" wide which means about 98dpi horizontally if set to
1280x1024
15" lcd is about 9.75" wide which means about 105dpi horizontally if set to
1024x768
so, you could say the 15" would have larger icons...
but that is really not the best way to look at it (no pun intended).
you can set your monitor to the optimal resolution of the display and then
adjust fonts in various ways within windows.
in the display properties you can select the general font size, changing it
to a standard large font, or create a custom size if necessary. within
internet explorer you can select view-textsize and change it from
smaller/smallest/medium/larger/largest. within office applications you can
adjust the magnification of the document/spreadsheet/whatever. i say get
the physically largest monitor that you can fit on your desk and afford and
then adjust the windows settings to make it work best for you.

"Acadia" <acadiaNOT@ONyourLIFE.com> wrote in message
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> Two LCD monitors, one a 15-inch using its native 1024x768 resolution, and
> the other a 17-inch using its native 1280x1024 resolution. Which one
would
> have the bigger icons, text, and images? If I were to take a ruler and
> measure the same desktop icons or webpage images on the two different
> monitors, which would have the larger stuff (in other words, easier on my
> aging eyes). Thank you all.
>
> --
> Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
>
>
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 22, 2004 10:05:14 AM

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Christopher Muto wrote:
> as a way to compare the physical differences you can do this calculation...
> 17" lcd is about 13" wide which means about 98dpi horizontally if set to
> 1280x1024
> 15" lcd is about 9.75" wide which means about 105dpi horizontally if set to
> 1024x768
> so, you could say the 15" would have larger icons...

Greater dpi means images (which have the same number of dots) will
appear smaller. So the 17" would have larger icons, but only by 7%.
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April 22, 2004 4:19:25 PM

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Thanks Christopher. Yes, I'm aware of the adjustments that can be made, and
I have experimented with those many adjustments using my CRT. But I have
discovered, unless I am missing something, that most websites cannot be
adjusted, and surfing is my main concern when it comes to my eyes. Am I
missing something when it comes to adjusting the size of website text and
images, I'm using IE6? Thank again.

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Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 22, 2004 4:21:52 PM

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Open IE 6 Right click on an empty space on the toolbar. Select
customize. Scroll down the list till you find the Size button. Select
it and click add. Close your way out. The button you added allows you to
change the text size on web pages if you need to.

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Steve Williams



"Acadia" <acadiaNOT@ONyourLIFE.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Christopher. Yes, I'm aware of the adjustments that can be
made, and
> I have experimented with those many adjustments using my CRT. But I
have
> discovered, unless I am missing something, that most websites cannot
be
> adjusted, and surfing is my main concern when it comes to my eyes. Am
I
> missing something when it comes to adjusting the size of website text
and
> images, I'm using IE6? Thank again.
>
> --
> Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
>
>
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 22, 2004 5:00:30 PM

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windows xp has a utility called the magnifier that may be of interest to
you. it takes the top quarter of the screen (you can make the area smaller
or larger or even put it into a floatable window) to display the area around
the current position of the mouse pointer in a highly magnified manner. you
can choose the level of magnification. check it out on an xp machine...
start-programs-accessories-accessibility-magnifier

"Acadia" <acadiaNOT@ONyourLIFE.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Christopher. Yes, I'm aware of the adjustments that can be made,
and
> I have experimented with those many adjustments using my CRT. But I have
> discovered, unless I am missing something, that most websites cannot be
> adjusted, and surfing is my main concern when it comes to my eyes. Am I
> missing something when it comes to adjusting the size of website text and
> images, I'm using IE6? Thank again.
>
> --
> Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
>
>
April 22, 2004 9:10:27 PM

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Thanks, Steve. Yes, I am familiar with this but unfortunately, this only
works on certain websites, in fact, it only works on a minority of the sites
that I visit. Thanks for the suggestion though and I'll take any other
suggestions anyone can think of.

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Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 22, 2004 10:47:35 PM

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Try this...
While in internet explorer select "Tools/Internet Options" and using the
"General" tab click "accessibility" check "ignore font sizes on web pages"

This little fix made a world of difference in my browsing comfort. Playing
around with the settings here, I discovered that you can also get rid of
some of those horrendous color schemes on some web pages too!

Rina


"Acadia" <acadiaNOT@ONyourLIFE.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, Steve. Yes, I am familiar with this but unfortunately, this only
> works on certain websites, in fact, it only works on a minority of the
sites
> that I visit. Thanks for the suggestion though and I'll take any other
> suggestions anyone can think of.
>
> --
> Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
>
>
April 22, 2004 11:11:24 PM

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Whoa, Rina, how did I miss that one? THANK YOU, that is making a world of
difference ... play time. Thanks again, may your camels always lead you to
fresh water.

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Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 22, 2004 11:38:03 PM

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AH... I'm glad it worked for you! I picked this little gem on this newsgroup
about a month ago. (after a year of tweaking)

Rina


"Acadia" <acadiaNOT@ONyourLIFE.com> wrote in message
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> Whoa, Rina, how did I miss that one? THANK YOU, that is making a world of
> difference ... play time. Thanks again, may your camels always lead you
to
> fresh water.
>
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 23, 2004 3:23:41 AM

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good catch. nice to know somebody actually reads these things.

"Tom Almy" <tomalmy@aracnet.com> wrote in message
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> Christopher Muto wrote:
> > as a way to compare the physical differences you can do this
calculation...
> > 17" lcd is about 13" wide which means about 98dpi horizontally if set to
> > 1280x1024
> > 15" lcd is about 9.75" wide which means about 105dpi horizontally if set
to
> > 1024x768
> > so, you could say the 15" would have larger icons...
>
> Greater dpi means images (which have the same number of dots) will
> appear smaller. So the 17" would have larger icons, but only by 7%.
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 24, 2004 3:49:38 AM

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:38:03 GMT, "Rina" <Grammy_Geek@comcast.net>
wrote:

>AH... I'm glad it worked for you! I picked this little gem on this newsgroup
>about a month ago. (after a year of tweaking)
>
>Rina
>
>
>"Acadia" <acadiaNOT@ONyourLIFE.com> wrote in message
>news:wNUhc.22345$um3.464924@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Whoa, Rina, how did I miss that one? THANK YOU, that is making a world of
>> difference ... play time. Thanks again, may your camels always lead you
>to
>> fresh water.
>>
>
While it does work, Java generated pages come out looking rather
strange. However, those are the ones that give me problems as well
and are the ones that you can't normally change.

Mike
April 24, 2004 2:09:41 PM

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Interesting, thanks for the info.

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Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
April 24, 2004 2:25:07 PM

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> Greater dpi means images (which have the same number of dots) will
> appear smaller. So the 17" would have larger icons, but only by 7%.

Tom, I posted this question in four different forums, and of all the people
who responded, you're the only one who said the 17" monitor with the higher
resolution would have the larger icons. I'm confused by the formulas that
everyone is using, could you possibly go into further detail, thank you very
much.

--
Have both a nice day and a happy life, Acadia.
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 24, 2004 2:25:08 PM

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Acadia wrote:
>>Greater dpi means images (which have the same number of dots) will
>>appear smaller. So the 17" would have larger icons, but only by 7%.
>
>
> Tom, I posted this question in four different forums, and of all the people
> who responded, you're the only one who said the 17" monitor with the higher
> resolution would have the larger icons. I'm confused by the formulas that
> everyone is using, could you possibly go into further detail, thank you very
> much.
>

Ironically, I get different results when I mesured my 15 and 17 inch
Dell LCD monitors than the figures for pixels per inch that Christopher
Muto posted. It looks like he miscalculated the width of the 15" display
(I get 12" he got 9.75)

The icons have a fixed size in terms of their dimension in pixels. My
1504FP (15" monitor) measures 12" wide, and displays 1024 pixels in
those 12", or 85 pixels per inch. My 1702FP (17" monitor) measures 13.3"
wide and displays 1280 pixels, or 96 pixels per inch. So the 17" monitor
will display icons smaller.

In any case, almost everything is adjustable so it really doesn't matter.
Anonymous
a b C Monitor
April 25, 2004 3:27:56 AM

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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:14:27 -0700, Tom Almy <tomalmy@aracnet.com>
wrote:

>Acadia wrote:
>>>Greater dpi means images (which have the same number of dots) will
>>>appear smaller. So the 17" would have larger icons, but only by 7%.
>>
>>
>> Tom, I posted this question in four different forums, and of all the people
>> who responded, you're the only one who said the 17" monitor with the higher
>> resolution would have the larger icons. I'm confused by the formulas that
>> everyone is using, could you possibly go into further detail, thank you very
>> much.
>>
>
>Ironically, I get different results when I mesured my 15 and 17 inch
>Dell LCD monitors than the figures for pixels per inch that Christopher
>Muto posted. It looks like he miscalculated the width of the 15" display
>(I get 12" he got 9.75)
>
>The icons have a fixed size in terms of their dimension in pixels. My
>1504FP (15" monitor) measures 12" wide, and displays 1024 pixels in
>those 12", or 85 pixels per inch. My 1702FP (17" monitor) measures 13.3"
>wide and displays 1280 pixels, or 96 pixels per inch. So the 17" monitor
>will display icons smaller.
>
>In any case, almost everything is adjustable so it really doesn't matter.

Adding one more figure to Tom's numbers... My 19" monitor (1900FP) is
14.75 inches wide, and has a native resolution of 1280x1024, which works
out to 86 pixels per inch or almost as "big" as the 15" monitor.

As for web browsing, you might try the Opera web browser
(http://www.opera.com). It has a magnification widget on the toolbar
which lets you choose any magnification from 20% to 1000%. It magnifies
(or shrinks) the entire page; text, pictures and all. If you hold down
the Ctrl key on the keyboard, the mouse wheel will zoom the page in and
out -- its very slick.

Jeff Bean
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