serous question

Wow, wait ... You're not talking about the same Celeron the rest of the people is talking about! The one you're talking about is a PIII-based Celeron, also dubbed 'Tually', since it is based on the Tualatin-core, which is (or was) actually quite competetive. So yes, it will definitaly beat the PIII 733. Concerning the price ... I don't know, since they are not sold anymore where I usually look for parts. But a friend of mine composed a system around a 1.2 Tually, and though not competetive to more modern systems, it did cost very, very little, and does perform quite good. I know this has been told before, but it's a pitty the PIII-line of processors died a silent death ... (Though the Banias-chip kindof is a successor to it, I heard ...)

Greetz,
Bikeman

<i>Then again, that's just my opinion</i><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by bikeman on 05/24/03 10:43 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

NO! I definately recommend AGAINST the 1.3A! Yes, at any speed it will perform a bit better than the PIII 733, but the main key to getting good performance out of a Celeron Tualatin is increasing BUS SPEED! My Celeron 1.2A at 124MHz bus/1488MHz couldn't TOUCH my Celeron 1.1A at 133MHz bus/1466MHz. So I'm recommending the 1.1A in order to achieve a higher bus speed!

Also, 124MHz is a very bad bus speed anyway, it will leave your PCI and AGP bus either highly overclocked (41.3MHz PCI), which results in instability, or slightly underclocked (31MHz PCI) resulting in lower performance.

Most Celeron 1.1 Tuallies will do 1540MHz at 140MHz bus. Some will do 1650MHz at 150MHz bus. Even at 150Mhz bus the PCI clock is tolerable at 37.5MHz.

<font color=blue>Watts mean squat if you don't have quality!</font color=blue>

Read the original post! He's already talking about taking the 1.3A to 124MHz bus. I'm telling him that as long as he's overclocking, he should use a CPU that can achieve a higher bus speed.

The difference between the 1.3 and 1.1 Tualatins in max achievable clock speed is small. So it's better to use the 1.1 and get the superior bus speed from it. Either should do 1500-1700MHz, it's the luck of the draw as to what you will get out of yours.

So BECAUSE he plans on overclocking the 1.1GHz version is a better choice.

<font color=blue>Watts mean squat if you don't have quality!</font color=blue>

Subject: celleron question

Hows it going .. I fianally got back to reading my post about overclocking a cell tually . My frend can get me distro prices and I was thinking about getting the 1400mhz celleron 256k tulatin chip and runing it at 14x124= 1736 or 14x112= 1568 but you say the 1.1 is a better choice.. what should I do the board might not like high [pci speeds as I can clock my 733 to 770 in bios no prob but have to use gigibite easy tune to bring it up to 825 becouse of windows start up errors ??? I have clocked this chip to 825 no prob with a asus tusi-m board. The new board is a Gigibite Ga-6vtxe(-A) NEEDED AGP.
512 samsung pc133 maxtor 60 asus v7100-"gforce2"vid card
10-20 dollar value doesent really matter but I want the fastest overclock performance cell I can clock! The bus jumeres are *,*,100,112,124,133,140,150 at 124 bus pci is 31 140 wood be sweet at 35 14x140=1960 cell lol I wish. any how your voice will be apreciated . Ps 1 more question where is the best slot for the ram I've herd mixed things 0,1,2 ?? 2'nd ps do you know the voltage pin trick for the cell, and will the retail fan be ok like the p4's .. THANKS Crash !! my P4 1.6 loves being unleashed at 2.1+