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On 4 Jul 2005 12:16:45 -0700, "JDix" <jennystiger@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I see the market softening a bit too, not just with sterns. It seems
>most pins have hit a ceiling, I don't see the typical 15% gains
>occurring this year as they have in the past couple years. Most of the
>higher demand titles are pretty expensive, and most people who want
>them already have them or have been priced out of the market. If
>anything it seems the lower end pins are making a run now. I wouldn't
>expect prices to drop really, but the plateau appears to be here. Do
>you really expect average TZ's and AFM's will be selling for
>$4,500-$5,000 in 2 years? There will be some spikes around Xmas but I
>doubt these levels will be reached. Despite what the Fed says there is
>a lot of inflation across the board from houses to toilet paper. Pins
>fall in there somewhere. Higher interest rates will probably strain
>all price increases eventually. A lot of people have had very easy
>access to money for the past couple years and right now. If that
>changes the markets for recreational luxury items like pins can only
>suffer.
it is the dog days of summer. until we see price drops in the winter
months, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. the sport of pinball is year round, but
the playoffs start in september and things maxi out in december.
right now, homeowners don't buy squat. once everyone starts jonesing
for pins, we will look back on this and laugh ;-)
Pinlicious ( ...there is no spoon.)
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>
>Ceegary wrote:
>> The market for HUO Sterns is still trying to find it's base. It seems that
>> most of the "must have a X Stern" crown bought new and the demand in the
>> secondary market is not as strong, so the prices have actually shown a
>> steady decline, even since the beginning of the this year.Ifyoucheckthe
>> archives, not too long ago there were some that thought those pins would
>> actually increase in value in the secondary market. Most ops have not sold
>> theirs yet, they're still operating them and the supply is coming more from
>> home buyers who have decided to sell. When the ops do sell it will give
>> buyers another option; lower prices with more wear. It's possible the prices
>> could firm up but they could continue to follow the trend-line and drop even
>> further.
>>
>> GRY
>>
>> <lewben11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1120494670.111108.286620@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Maybe the anticipation that Pat Lawlor will save pinball again with
>> > Nascar has many large ops trying to move older Stern titles now to get
>> > in on it..? I am excited to see the finished result and think it
>> > already has the look of something sweet and different from Lawlor and
>> > Stern.
>> > I think your right, there is always soft times in the summer for TIER
>> > 2,3 pins but I do feel that the TIER 1 pins will always command higher
>> > dollars. Which TIER a pin is in depends on the buyer of course.
>> > IMHO I would put all the Stern,Sega,DE pins in TIER 2 and a majority of
>> > the Williams Bally pins in TIER 1. Of course you have your occasional
>> > ringer like GUns N Roses which takes off from time to time. Just my
>> > thoughts.
>> > Lewis
>> >