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[Bosse]

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[unoc]

400 is faster than 333 if sync with CPU

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[simwiz2]

Do you know that a 3200+ is slower than a P4 3 Ghz?

 

[JimmyDean]

Did you know the P4 has an 800mhz fsb and is $240 more? Of course its faster. We dont base this on clock speed either

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[Prof133]

I´m gonna buy an Amd 3200+ and i wounder: Is a NV 2 motherboard with 400mhz front side bus and dual 400mhz DDR the best setup.

For an AMD 3200+, yes that is the best setup.

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[eden]

Though I strongly disaprove in that purchase.

Knowing that the new 2.8C outperforms the 3200+ nForce 2 setup, an 865 mainboard with such, and DDR400 would both outperform the 3200+, include Hyperthreading, and be at around the same cost!

I strongly recommend the Intel route here.

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[Bosse]

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[simwiz2]

It's your money, buy what you like.

However, I wanted to make sure you were aware that you were paying more for less. At least it is better than everyone keeping quiet, and you getting ripped off unknowingly.

I hope people would have warned me if I had asked about setting up a 1.5 P4 a few years ago.


Btw, what will you do if Athlon 64 is a flop and AMD ends up making budget CPU's for the next 5 years? Will you just endure slow performance because you hate Intel so much?

 

[eden]

Alright, then suffer the consequences of paying the same $ for about 10% less performance, no HyperThreading, and no SSE2 boosts.
Great for you, you rock, loyalists ROCK!




That was major sarcasm btw.

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[Mephistopheles]

Bosse, buy a cyrix? What are you talking about?
<b>Why</b> should we "PLZ STOP" recommending Intel, if it´s clearly the best alternative?

BTW, I also <i>strongly</i> recommend the 2.8C Intel platform over the XP3200+. Eden has already mentioned all arguments, but here they are again: superior memory bandwidth, SSE2-support, HT-support and top-notch performance which matches the 3200+.

But hey, the money is yours to spend.

 

[slb132]

I hear the 3200+ is a nice overclocker. One of the hardware review sites said they got the thing up to 2.5GHz without increasing the voltage at all. Even though I don't recommend the purchase of one either since they are pretty expensive and you can get basically the same thing with an overclocked 2500+ for about 300 dollars less.

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[eden]

You likely need a lot of cooling for 2.5GHZ.

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[AMD_me]

Its your money thats right. We are just trying to stop you from shitting on it and flushing it down the toilet. I was a devout AMD follower, but with their latest processors they [-peep-] the duck.

eBay, kick ass!

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[Crashman]

No, that P4 is $30 LESS. The P4 3.0GHz is faster than the XP3200+ plus and cost $30 less, even after AMD's pricecuts. In fact, the P4 2.8C is slightly above the 3200+ (close enough to call them matched) and is $160 less than the 3200+.

<font color=blue>Watts mean squat if you don't have quality!</font color=blue>

 

[Crashman]

Actually the P4 3.0C/865 combo cost around $100 less than the AMD settup, and the 2.8C/865 combo cost around $200 less than the AMD settup.

<font color=blue>Watts mean squat if you don't have quality!</font color=blue>

 

[Crashman]

Looking at AMD's pricing for the XP3200+ (rip off) I think I'd go with a slightly slower XP processor and overclock it. The 2700+ is reasonably priced.

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[Kioku]

what is SSE2 boost?

 

[phial]

dude stfu

when people recommend GFFX5200 i tell them not to, but thats for a reason. theres a difference between being a fanboy (which i am for AMD i admit and ATI) and a idiot

the 2.8@800fsb and hyperthreading is a fast combination, and a great deal. id say better than the 2800+. plus, the 2.8 is probably more overclockable than the 2800+

ive always onwed AMD, but id rather have a 2.8@800fsb than a 2800+

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[BDuncan]

I have been an AMD fan since my first K6 233Mhz which I still have and it is my Windows 2000 server now. In 1998 I received as a Christmas gift the first AMD 650 Alienware Hivemind PC staying with the slot 1 procs I upgraded as far as I could go to a 850Mhz and I had constant problems, mostly involving gaming. A couple of years ago I purchased an P4 1.6Ghz, an Intel 850 mobo, 1 GB of 800Mhz Rambus and I haven't had a problem with it yet. I have built numerous AMD systems for my customers using the XP chips which have been fairly decent and it was an inexpensive alternative to the P4 solution but for stability and reliability I will put my machine up on the comparison block any day of the week.

Just my two cents, don't mean to offend anyone.

 

[Ryan_Plus_One]

The way I see it:

For every chip that AMD sells, Intel loses a sale and a little piece of the pie that they currently dominate. AMD gets a little more money, which they use to make better CPU's, which forces Intel to make better CPU's and lower prices. Without strong competition from AMD we would all be screwed. I feel it is my job as an IT specialist to look past who is currently in the top seat and support the underdog.

I will continue to buy AMD because it helps the big picture. Although I wouldn't buy a 3200+ for myself at the time, I sure as hell wouldn't try to talk someone else out of buying one. But then again, I have been accused of being a brain washed AMD fanboy before...

 

[phial]

nah thats absolutely true, a monopoly does nothing for anyone (except the holders of the monopoly of course)

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[dhlucke]

Long Live Freedom Fries!




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[Twitch]

Dude, if you want to invest in AMD, buy stock, or send them some cash in an envelope and request that it be placed in R&D's budget. But why would you pay more money for a lesser product? Rewarding mediocrity is not the way to encourage competition...



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[ltj311]

Well said.

 

[ad_rach]

I agree with some of the others.Even if you are so set on buying AMD,there really is no point in getting the 3200 at the moment, if you don't mind a little overclocking.All the other xps, even the 3000, have fallen to reasonable prices and you could easily get one of them to 200MHz fsb, particularly a barton.
However, it seems like you have money to burn so i wouldn't blame you for buying the 3200, even though it is a waste.I can only say that if i had that sort of money i would probably go for a 3.0c p4 and an i865pe, despite the fact that i have only ever bought AMD and am perfectly happy with them.

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]