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June 4, 2003 5:30:12 PM

Barton or Thoroughbred? My friend always likes to top me in some way. so i had ordered a 2500(1.8) Barton and he went out and ordered a 2700 (2.17) Thoroughbred not long after me. He says the Barton is meant more for like office use (microsoft word, excel, etc.) and a Thoroughbred is meant more for gaming. i plan on overclocking my barton to hopefully reach a 3000. Is he full of [-peep-] or his he right. And will my overclocked Barton beat his Thoroughbred? (we're always competeing against eachother in one way or another)

My system: A7N8X dlx, 2500, 2x256 corsair xms pc2700
His system: i'll get back to you on that, havnt found that out yet.
i'm hoping to get a ATI 9600pro pretty soon, right now im stuck with a MX440 64MB

My computer is so powerful, it can complete a simple math equation in only 3 and half days! :lol: 

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June 4, 2003 6:57:52 PM

if you get a 3.0Ghz P4 with HT, there's no way his will be faster. But your Barton probably OCs easily and will match his 2700 with little effort.
June 4, 2003 7:52:20 PM

The next person to try to turn this into an AMD vs. Intel debate gets drop kicked in the chin.

Yes, I think your 2500+ has much more potential that his Tbred. Your friend is also dillusional when he says Tbreds are more for gaming than Bartons.

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June 4, 2003 8:06:32 PM

From my personal experience with Barton 2500+ on A7N8X Deluxe I can tell you that you will EASILY manage to reach 3000+ speeds with no effort at all. So there is no way that his Tbred 2700+ will be faster than your CPU since you will easily reach its speed (2.17GHz is a minimum when overclocking the 2500+) and also have the advantage of the increased cache.

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He says the Barton is meant more for like office use (microsoft word, excel, etc.) and a Thoroughbred is meant more for gaming

As far as I know, this is <b>bullshit</b>! In fact (I'm not absolutely sure about this), I think the increased cache helps Barton perform better in games.

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i'm hoping to get a ATI 9600pro pretty soon, right now im stuck with a MX440 64MB

I suggest you try and find a Radeon 9500 Pro soon, rather than wait and get a Radeon 9600 Pro later. It performs better than the 9600 but soon these will not be available, since ATI has replaced the 9500 with the 9600. The price of the two is the same, so if you can find the 9500 Pro, go for it!
June 4, 2003 10:39:01 PM

my thoughts exactly.
I had such a friend once.
I then realised that I was better off away from him...
June 4, 2003 10:42:53 PM

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The next person to try to turn this into an AMD vs. Intel debate gets drop kicked in the chin.

<sarcasm>Thanks, that was very nice of you...</sarcasm> And that was not what I was thinking. I merely considered an "unbeatable" option.
June 5, 2003 4:40:25 AM

these forums never fail to make me laugh, haha. thanx for the posts. just got done overclocking my 2500 to 2200mhz :lol:  i might try squezing some more out of it tomorrow.

My computer is so powerful, it can complete a simple math equation in only 3 and half days! :lol: 
June 5, 2003 4:43:56 AM

the only CPU that is meant for office use is the Celeron nothing else your barton can kill that thing with O/C and if u can't (hands him the dustbuster) kill him with massive tornato attack lol

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June 5, 2003 6:03:35 AM

Hi catman. I'm trying to talk myself into getting a 2500 to replace my 2400. Can you tell me what your settings are?
Also what type of fan are you using? Thanks
June 5, 2003 6:23:25 AM

CPU External Freq.: 175mhz
Cpu Freq. Mulitiple: 12.5x
CPU volt: 1.725(just changed it, dong know if it effect anything)
DDR volt: 2.6
Cpu interface set at Aggresive
Memory Timing set at Aggresive

first time overclocking so i wasnt sure what exaclty you need to know, so thats like all of it. and im using the cooler the 2500 came with. So you should get this. very happy with it. cheap and runs at 3000+ speeds with stock cooler and no effort at all (idle temp is 48C. havnt done to much running anything yet so i dont know what it is under load)

My computer is so powerful, it can complete a simple math equation in only 3 and half days! :lol: 
June 5, 2003 8:58:12 AM

Thanks.Very tempting!
June 5, 2003 3:50:53 PM

The barton May give you a slightly faster boot-up sequences in games but tha actuall gameplay will not change. The barton 2700 has a slower clock speed than of the t-bred 2700 but the cache makes up but only in booting. If you can match the clock speed to the t-bred you will outperform the t-bred naturally. Why did AMD underclock those Bartons anyways?
June 5, 2003 5:13:53 PM

They "underclocked" them so they could have Barton cores for different price ranges. If they only came out with the 3000+ and the 3200+ then they would lose sales to the middle class and common folk like myself.

<font color=red>Now that I am running RAID 5 I find myself praying for a hard drive failure.</font color=red>
June 5, 2003 6:36:44 PM

hey man i really don't think it worth jumping from thorubred 2400+ to barton 2500+ the point difference isn't worth it especcially if your's is one of the unlocked 2400's which can easily reach 2800+ tiny bit better then a barton 2500+ at default
June 5, 2003 8:15:00 PM

maybe. but i have my 2500 clocked at a 3000, with the stock cooler. Better than TB clocked at a 2800. and the barton has a larger cache. i think he should go with the 2500. been running stable under load now with it running at 2.2gig. Just my 2cents

My computer is so powerful, it can complete a simple math equation in only 3 and half days! :lol: 
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