I'm not sure, but personally I think Palomino1700+ runs warmer
T-Bred B starts run warmer when it goes to higher Clock speed, how high? then I don't know, if you said 1700+Palomino compared to 2600+ Tbred B, then certainly 2600+ is warmer
Heres my personal experience with both processors mentioned.
I recently upgraded from a 1700 palomino and used a good coolermaster HSF and exhaust fan which was taking air directly out from the side of the heatsink. This was good cooling but the cpu ran 52c idle and 60 full load.
My new cpu is a tbred 2100 overclocked heavily on a high voltage (1.825). The cooling is different but i dont have the exhaust fan, i have an sk7 heatsink. The cpu is running at 2,240mhz, thats over 500mhz over rated speed and idle temp is 46c, full load is 52c. At stock speed which is a more direct comparison it idles at 38c and runs loaded at 42c. Need i say more?
The die on a Palomino CPU is built using the .18 micron process, while Tbred A and B use the .13 micron process. Smaller = less power consumption = less heat produced. Pally's need 1.75 volts to run where a Tbred uses 1.65.
We will see processors from the 0.9 micron process from AMD and Intel soon.
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I have been using this new CPU at 1.92 Volts for about 2 months now.
Here's my logic. I bot my first comp about two years back. THen, all i knew about a comp was - it shud have a 17" monitor, a keyboard, a mouse and a rectangular box.
And in these two years i have learnt quite a few things about hardware and then decided to do a complete overhaul. SO if i did my first upgrade in two years, its very likely that my next upgrade will be in less than 2 years, if not more...
OK, coming to the point....if i cud use a CPU for 7-8 years at normal voltage and normal speeds, then mebbe i cud use a CPU for about 3-4 years at higher voltage and higher clock speeds. That still gives me lots of time to upgrade... so i thot i might as well run my CPU at extreme(to the max. limit) speeds and get my money's worth and stay happy :smile:
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