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I have to write a review on Diskeeper 9 from Executive Software, and I'd like some input on what kinds of test I should run, or any other proceedures or observations, to compare it with XP's built in defragmenter.

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I would think the major factor when dealing with a defragger is time. How much faster is it than XP? How could you reliably compare that? I suppose you could find a PC that hasn't been defragged in a while and Ghost the HDD to the same make/model HDD and do a comparison that way.

Also, the website states, "You can run yourself ragged manually defragmenting every workstation, desktop, laptop and server on a regular basis—or you can have the problem taken care of automatically with NEW Diskeeper 9!" Can you use it over a network?



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Reply to Black_Cat

Well I'm using last year's version 478 ie. 8.
With version 8 compared to WinXP Defrag or Norton's version of defrag Diskeeper works faster, doesn't noticably slow my system down (notebook), can be set to work at scheduled time or run unnoticed in the background.
Overall it does speed up file access time but so does WinXP defrag and WinXP defrag comes bundled with the OS.

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Reply to zpyrd

The XP Defrag from what I know (a stripped down Diskeeper version, prolly the 7th's engine), is simply crappy. Slow and inefficient versus Diskeeper's algorithms. The unfortunate thing is, ever since WinME and 2000, they've removed the one true power Win98 had that I loved: the arrange program files so they start faster defrag option. In Win98, I can tell you that feature cut down load times on many programs by as much as 50%. I could load AutoCAD in 6-8 seconds on a Pentium II 350MMX machine with relatively slow HDDs! (6.4GB 5400rpm back then if I remember right, otherwise I also had the 15GB 7200RPM as slave drive too) That feature alone was the reason I defragged. Sadly in WinXP, no matter what new features are added to defragmentation efficiency, it just doesn't speed up much in my experience. Not the same way Win98's defrag did. I dunno if they continued to use that feature since then (I doubt it since the defragged drive layout in Diskeeper doesn't show all programs in a contiguous line) but it sure would come in handy these days with large application sizes.

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Reply to eden

Keep the good ideas comming.

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Reply to Crashman

You can compare to Norton's disk optimize/defrag

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Reply to Flinx

Would be nice to know what all besides XP it will work with. For instance I have an older PIII 750Mhz laptop with ME. The windows defragger is never able to complete the process even though I use EnditAll to shut everything down.

I downloaded and tried a half-dozen programs before I finally found one that would complete the defrag operation. What worked was PerfectDisk.

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Reply to _WW_

Diskeeper is the best. It does have an option to rearrange files so that they load faster.
I use ver 8, and Undelete.
They work with any RAID drive, and across network drives.
Also are very fast.
I have been using them since NT 4

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Reply to RichPLS

I think it has an option for optimisation of the boot time, as microsoft bootvis does. maybe comparing boot time of a machine before and after.

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Reply to pat

I never found progys like them to be reliable. Data loss and corruption of files in most cases.

None bootable partitions etc. Or split partitions after ghosting.

As far as defrag times in XP the scan and defrag times are under 5 minutes for a 80 drive.

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Reply to SoDNighthawk

Diskeeper is the best defrag utility for Win NT4, Win 2000, Win XP.
Very reliable, never data loss, and secure.

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Reply to RichPLS

What I'm really asking here is what types of test people would have me perform to compare it to the built-in XP defragmenter.

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Reply to Crashman

Gave you some in the other forum.. Belive SiSoft Sandra has a bench too.

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Reply to Flinx

Definitely startup and program boot times. I think those are basically some of the main reasons to defrag. Then you can also look at time to access files on the same fragmented drive using different defrag programs. I dunno how to recreate the same environment though for a true comparison. Maybe Deepfreeze the drive?

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Reply to eden

That's why I'm asking you!

I have a 30GB partition on my main drive and a spare 40GB drive, I can copy the partition using Partition Magic and perform the same tests for both XP deframenter and Diskeeper 9.

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Reply to Crashman

BTW, I'm really fragging this drive with Solidworks, I have this model of a car with dozens of 3D surfaces, comprising hundreds of operations, I've been exiting in the middle of operations and leaving the trash all over the place. Every time I open the thing it takes longer and longer to find all the current, correct versions of the parts, etc.

Oh, and I need a faster processor, a P4 30GHz would still be too slow!

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Reply to Crashman

I'm overclocked. There's no way I'm going to get the teraflops of power I need to make these deformations go quickly.

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Reply to Crashman

BTW, the 30GB partition is on a 160GB SATA drive, no problems overclocking here.

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Reply to Crashman

One thing I wonder is if HDD benchmarks reveal different results when a drive is fragmented or not. If that is the case, you could technically fragment after a defrag till you reach the previous bad result in the benchmark, then defrag with the other defragmenter. In the end you might know which restores the performance back up more.

Just a thought.

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Reply to eden

Crash, I was having problems with Exec Undelete 4 Pro...
I uninstalled and reinstalled but had to run version 3 first, since 4 was an upgrade, and would not work. Undelete kept saying that I had not rebooted since installed, even though I had...
Anyhoo, I even uninstalled and deleted all reg entries with udserve.exe in them, and still no success.

I call Execsoft tech, got a tech on SECOND RING!!!
Explained the problem and he was aware of problem, and emailed me version 4 full, no need for upgrade.

He told me to delete Recov Bin which I am doing now, then empty standard recycler bin and then install new full version 4.
I will let you know when it works if successfull, which I am sure will work fine, but it is taking an hour to delete the two bins...
Which he said is normal considering size of my drives and the numbers of small dat files...

The point is how quick tech support answered and how knowledgable he was. Something you do not get with some other s/w companies.
I am impressed again with Executive Diskeeper 8 and Undelete 4 Tech support team!
Just wanted to let you know...
BTW, where is your review on DK 9?

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