Need Help Upgrading my PC please.

ladic · Jun 19, 2003

First of all, I'm a computer Noob, so I don't know much about upgrading PC's, but a friend of mine is coming in 6weeks to visit, and he can install the new parts.

This is what I currently Have on my PC:

Processor: AMD XP 1800+
Motherboard: Abit KT7/KT7 - RAID
Ram: 768mb pc-100 (crucial)
Video Card: Gainward G-Force 3 ti200 64mb
OS: Windows ME

This is what I was thinking of upgrading to:

Motherboard: ($54)
ECS L7S7A2 SiS 746 Chipset ATX Motherboard - RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: (Socket A) AMD Athlon XP CPU
Chipset: SiS 746 & SiS 963
FSB:266/333MHz
RAM:3xDIMM DDR400/333/266/200 Max 3GB (2GB Max for DDR400)
IDE:2xUltra DMA 66/100/133
Slots:5xPCI slots, 1xAGP(8X), No CNR Slot
Ports:4xUSB, 2xPS2, 1xLPT,2 xCOM, and Audio Ports
Onboard Audio:C-Media CMI9738/4CH AC'97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: PHYceiver 10/100Mbs
Included ECS 6-in-1 reader

CPU: ($92)
AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL
Specifications:
CPU: 1.83 GHz
Type: XP 2500 Barton Core
Cache: 512K L2, 128K L1, Total 640KB
BUS: 333MHz
Socket A
Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)

RAM:
I'm gonna buy some Kingston ram from bestbuy 512mb PC2700, they have them for $40 for each stick.

Video Card:
Probably a ATI Radeon 9600 PRO, but further down the line.

Now, my question is is there a better combination you guys recommend for around that price? or does that sound good and like a good upgrade?
Also, I have 2 HD's in my PC (20gig and 40gig) and DVD-Rom, CD-RW, and the new video card that I might buy. My current case has a 300watt powersupply, is that enough or should I get a 350watt case with powersupply?
does any of this cases look good? and can they fit the MB i listed?

Case 1: ($60)
Raidmax Model 278WSP(SILVER/SILVER) 10-bay Case w/ 350Watt Power Supply Retail Mirage Series Steel Mid-tower case with Built in 2.0 USB and 2 LED strip" Bubble Light'' in front. Aluminum Silver and Plastic Front Panel with Acrylic Cover. Clear Fan with side panel window. Attractive Streamline design.
Specifications:
Material: Zinc Plated Steel
Driver Bays: Exposed 4 X 5.25" - 2 X 3.5" Internal 4 X 3.5"
System Board: ATX / Baby ATX
Expansion Slot: 7 Slots
Standard Fans: 1 X 80mm Side Case Fan
Dimension: 16.2"(H) X 8"(W) X 17.8"(D)
350Watt Power Supply

Case 2: ($37)
Raidmax Black 10-Bay ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Front USB 2.0, Model 289WBP(Black) - Retail
Specifications:
Material: Zinc Plated Steel
Driver Bays: Exposed 4 X 5.25" - 2 X 3.5" Internal 4 X 3.5"
System Board: ATX / Baby ATX
Expansion Slot: 7 Slots
Standard Fans: 2 X 80mm Side Case Fan
Optional Fans: 4 X 80mm (front) 1 X 60mm (rear)
Power Supply: 350W
Dimension: 16.2"(H) X 8"(W) X 17.8"(D)

Case 3: ($45)
Codegen 6082L-C9 (Silver/Blue) ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Clear Side Panel, Front Light-Up Panel - Retail
Specifications:
Form Factor: ATX
Drive Bays: External 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" Internal 5 x 3.5"
Expansion Slots: 7
USB/IO: 2 x USB + Audio/Mic
Case Fans: 2 x 80mm (rear/side panel see pics)
Power Supply: 350W
Approx Dimensions: 19" (L) x 7.68" (W) x 17.52" (H

So which of those cases is the best? will they fit the MB I listed? is there a better case you guys recommend for around that price?

Please let me know what u guys think, I need a lot of feedback.

thanks

TheMASK · Jun 19, 2003

I believe u r on a tight budget. Here are my suggestions:

I am not sure if that is a good mobo. But, instead of that mobo, go in for a MSI or the Abit one with a nForce 2 chipset, whichever is cheaper. It wud be around 100 buckz.

And the CPU, u can get a 1700+ and u cud easily oveclock it to 2400+ speeds with out increasing much of the Vcore.

RAM is decently enough.

Video Card is a good one. If u find a 9500Pro for about the same price, grab one. 9500Pro outperforms the 9600Pro in most of the cases.

No idea about the case. It wud help us all if u tell us what u r using this PC for. Gaming, VId Editing or just casual browsing.

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ladic · Jun 19, 2003

thanks for the info, I use the PC for gaming and also, I already have an AMD XP1800+ so it would be pointless to get a 1700+, hehe.
Yeah, I'm mostly on a tight budget. =)

TheMASK · Jun 19, 2003

the 1800+ u have there - is that a Palamino core? T-bred A? or a t-bred B? I suggest u save the money on the CPU and a get a better board, with the most number of features.

Or, u cud get a better Video Card.

Or, mebbe PC3200 Ram.

Or, just mebbe, a better case

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slvr_phoenix · Jun 19, 2003

I'd really have to say avoid SiS. If you have to, go with VIA (like a KT400 motherboard) for around the same price.

Or go with an nForce2 motherboard. It'll cost more, but it'll also be much better.

The processor seems okay to me.

The RAM looks okay too, but if you go with an nForce2 motherboard you might want to buy two sticks of RAM instead of one stick so that you can run the memory in dual-channel mode.

The video card you'll probably be better off with a 9500 Pro if you can find one.

The power supply might be enough, and then again it might not be. You could probably just get a new power supply and keep your old case though. (I don't know anything about your case though, so maybe not?)

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ladic · Jun 19, 2003

thakns for info.

Could someone recommend me a good "nForce2" motherboard compatible with all taht but not too expensive.

Is the 9500PRO better than the 9600PRO?
and are those better than a G-Force 4 Ti200 or a FX 5600 ULTRA?

thanks

ladic · Jun 19, 2003

Also, Am I gonna need more than 300watts for the powersupply? or the 300 I got right now enough for all that?
(I also have 2 HD's 20 and 40 gig, and dvd-rom and dvd-rw)

If so, are any of these cases any good?

Case 1: $60

Raidmax Model 278WSP(SILVER/SILVER) 10-bay Case w/ 350Watt Power Supply Retail Mirage Series Steel Mid-tower case with Built in 2.0 USB and 2 LED strip" Bubble Light'' in front. Aluminum Silver and Plastic Front Panel with Acrylic Cover. Clear Fan with side panel window. Attractive Streamline design.
Specifications:
Material: Zinc Plated Steel
Driver Bays: Exposed 4 X 5.25" - 2 X 3.5" Internal 4 X 3.5"
System Board: ATX / Baby ATX
Expansion Slot: 7 Slots
Standard Fans: 1 X 80mm Side Case Fan
Dimension: 16.2"(H) X 8"(W) X 17.8"(D)
350Watt Power Supply Model#: 278WSP -OEM

Case 2: $37

Raidmax Black 10-Bay ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Front USB 2.0, Model 289WBP(Black) - Retail
Specifications:
Material: Zinc Plated Steel
Driver Bays: Exposed 4 X 5.25" - 2 X 3.5" Internal 4 X 3.5"
System Board: ATX / Baby ATX
Expansion Slot: 7 Slots
Standard Fans: 2 X 80mm Side Case Fan
Optional Fans: 4 X 80mm (front) 1 X 60mm (rear)
Power Supply: 350W
Dimension: 16.2"(H) X 8"(W) X 17.8"(D) Model#: 289WBP(Black)

Case 3: $45

Codegen 6082L-C9 (Silver/Blue) ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Clear Side Panel, Front Light-Up Panel - Retail
Specifications:
Form Factor: ATX
Drive Bays: External 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" Internal 5 x 3.5"
Expansion Slots: 7
USB/IO: 2 x USB + Audio/Mic
Case Fans: 2 x 80mm (rear/side panel see pics)
Power Supply: 350W
Approx Dimensions: 19" (L) x 7.68" (W) x 17.52" (H) Model#: 6082L-C9

DO you guys recommend another good case but not too expensive?

thanks

slvr_phoenix · Jun 19, 2003

Normally I wouldn't suggest a Biostar mobo, but for the price you could look at the Biostar M7NCD Pro. It looks to be a pretty inexpensive nForce2 mobo. Or you could spend a little more on something like an MSI K7N2 Delta-L or a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L1.

Is the 9500PRO better than the 9600PRO?
and are those better than a G-Force 4 Ti200 or a FX 5600 ULTRA?

Read the <A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030416" target="_new">Tom's Hardware Guide review</A> on the Radeon 9600 Pro. It'll answer your questions.

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ladic · Jun 19, 2003

thanks.

I was looking at this 2 MB, tell me which u think is better, altough they are more $$$ than I had originally planned:

MB 1: $100

ASUS A7V8X LAN, Firewire IEEE1394, Serial ATA w/ RAID DDR400 AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Socket A, Processor Mother Board -Retail
Specifications:
Socket A - AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/ Duron
Chipsets: VIA KT400/8235
FSB: 333/266/200 MHz
3 x DDR DIMM PC3200/2700/2100/1600 (DDR400/333/266) non ECC SDRAM (Note: PC3200 Max. to 2 banks only)
Serial ATA
Firewire IEEE1394
LAN 10-100Mbs Network card
Ports: 1 x AGP, 6 x PCI, 6 x USB 2.0
Realtek 6-channel CODEC
ATX form factor Model#: A7V8X

MB 2: $116

Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400Mhz) Retail
Specifications:
CPU Supported: Socket A AMD Athlon/XP/Duron (600MHz - 2.8.GHz up to Barton XP3200+)Throughbred core CPU ready
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
IDE: 2x channel ATA133
RAM: 3x 184-pin DIMM Sockets(PC3200/PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 non-ECC DDR Ram)
Slots: 1x AGP (Pro/8X), 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2, 4xUSB, 1xCOM,1xLPT, and Audio Ports
Onboard Audio:Realtek® ALC650 6CH
Onboard LAN: MCP integrated NVIDIA® MAC + Realtek® 8201BL PHY
ATX Form Factor Model#: A7N8X

What I like about the first one, is that I can put this in:

Fron Panel: $20

Asus iPanel Deluxe Front Pannel for Asus Motherboards, Fits 5.25 Bay, Retail
Specifications:
ports: 2 USB, 1 Serial Port, 3 Audio Jacks, and 1 IrDA.
LCD panel to show boot errors, voltages, CPU frequency, fan speed, and temperature. 5.25" Panel. everything you could want on the front of your pc for monitoring needs. Model#: iPanel Deluxe

Or do you know where I can get those panels that are compatible with other MB's?

slvr_phoenix · Jun 19, 2003

They're both fine motherboards. Personally I would go with the second one, the nForce2 board. But the first board is pretty good too.

I'm surprised that the iPanel isn't available for the A7N8X though. Asus's technical spec says that the plug for it is optional, so the motherboard might have it. Maybe you could contact the seller and ask them if it has it or not? It might be there.

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ladic · Jun 19, 2003

Also, about the Powersupply.
I have an Antec ATX case, can I buy the powersupply (350watt-400watt) separately? if so, does any powersupply fit? and could someone post me a link of where they sell them?

slvr_phoenix · Jun 19, 2003

Can you tell us the exact model of the case?

With an Antec ATX case though it's extremely highly likely that your power supply is a typical ATX power supply. If so then you can just get another ATX power supply and put it into your case instead.

Contacting <A HREF="http://www.antec-inc.com" target="_new">Antec</A> might be a good idea, since they'll probably bend over backwards to help you. Or you can check out places like <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com" target="_new">Newegg</A>.

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ladic · Jun 19, 2003

The manual that came with the case says:

Antec
KS-282 Mid Tower Case (300watt)

I bought this case in Best BUy a year ago. I saw sprices at Newegg.com, but they PS cost almost as much as buying a generic case with 350watt. I saw some cheap PS at pricewatch.com but they are generic, that's why I was wondering if I could fit them with the case.

Also, about the panel, I think the thing is it is not compatible with the Nforce2 chipset, I think I read that on the reviews on newegg.com.
Here is the list of the compatble MB for that panel:

http://www.asus.com/support/english/techref/ipanel/index.aspx

slvr_phoenix · Jun 19, 2003

Antec
KS-282 Mid Tower Case (300watt)

It looks like a pretty nice case. It definately supports a standard ATX power supply, so I'd try to reuse it.

I saw sprices at Newegg.com, but they PS cost almost as much as buying a generic case with 350watt. I saw some cheap PS at pricewatch.com but they are generic, that's why I was wondering if I could fit them with the case.

Could fit them, yes. Would want to, probably not. The nice high wattage numbers look good, but in reality mean very little by themselves. Most generic power supplies simply can't put out much power, or run hot, or run loud, or all of the above. Many will sport a high wattage rating, but if you push them even to 80% of that rating they'll go up in smoke. It can get pretty ugly.

So paying more for a good power supply is almost always worth the extra money.

The power supply that you have in there right now might actually be good enough to continue using though. I'd say give it a shot. Otherwise try the Fortron FSP-350. It's not as expensive as something from Antec, but it should do well.

Also, about the panel, I think the thing is it is not compatible with the Nforce2 chipset, I think I read that on the reviews on newegg.com.

I think you may be right. I saw something about an optional front panel cable connection for the nForce2 board somewhere on Asus's site, but maybe it's talking about something else. Oh well. The Asus KT400 motherboard looks good too, so go with that one then.

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ladic · Jun 19, 2003

thanks man, Yeah, I'll probably just leave the current PS, and if I need moer wattage, I could go to Best Buy and see what they have or order online.

About the Panel, I saw this one at Newegg.com, you think this might be compatible with any of those 2 Asus MB?

Panel: $25
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-999-116

Thermaltake HDD "Hardcano 10" cooler and LCD heat Monitor. Design for 5.25’’ drive bay. Temp. Alarm LCD monitor. 2 adjustable fan speed controllers. 1394 firewire, 2.0 USB X 2. Aluminum housing. Please click on Product Link for details. A1659. Retail. Model#: HARDCANO 10

Does that panel say the cpu temp or just the temp inside the case? and will it be compatible?

hoserb2000 · Jun 19, 2003

I don't know if you allready set on what motherboard you're getting, but I just got the Epox 8RDA+, and I love it! you can get it from newegg.com (really really good site) for just $84! You can read a review about it <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1759&p=17" target="_new">here</A>

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ladic · Jun 19, 2003

thats sounds like a good choice and cheaper than the Asus MB, will look more into it.

ladic · Jun 20, 2003

Ok, so this is so far What I think I might get (In about a month):

MotherBoard: ($116)

Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400Mhz) Retail
Specifications:
CPU Supported: Socket A AMD Athlon/XP/Duron (600MHz - 2.8.GHz up to Barton XP3200+)Throughbred core CPU ready
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
IDE: 2x channel ATA133
RAM: 3x 184-pin DIMM Sockets(PC3200/PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 non-ECC DDR Ram)
Slots: 1x AGP (Pro/8X), 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2, 4xUSB, 1xCOM,1xLPT, and Audio Ports
Onboard Audio:Realtek® ALC650 6CH
Onboard LAN: MCP integrated NVIDIA® MAC + Realtek® 8201BL PHY
ATX Form Factor Model#: A7N8X

CPU: ($98)

AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL
Specifications:
CPU: 1.83 GHz
Type: XP 2500 Barton Core
Cache: 512K L2, 128K L1, Total 640KB
BUS: 333MHz
Socket A
Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
Model#: AXDA2500BOX

Video Card: ($193)

ATI RADEON 9500 PRO 128MB DDR DVI AGP RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset:9500 PRO Visual Processing Unit
Engine clock: 275 MHz
Memory:128MB of double data rate SDRAM
Memory speed: 540 MHz
Eight parallel rendering pipelines
Four parallel geometry engines
128-bit DDR memory interface
BUS: AGP 8X support
OS Support: Windows® XP, Windows® 2000, Windows® Me
Ports; VGA + DVI + S-Video
Retail box (see pics for details) Model#: RADEON 9500 PRO 128M

RAM: ($39.99)
Gonna buy this at best buy: (might get a second stick later on)
Kingston 512mb X 1 (PC2700)

I also wanna get this Panel, but can anyone confirm me if it is compatible with the MB I listed? or does anyone know where I can buy a compatible Panel for that MB?

Front Panel: ($25)

Thermaltake HDD "Hardcano 10" cooler and LCD heat Monitor. Design for 5.25’’ drive bay. Temp. Alarm LCD monitor. 2 adjustable fan speed controllers. 1394 firewire, 2.0 USB X 2. Aluminum housing. Please click on Product Link for details. A1659. Retail. Model#: HARDCANO 10

ladic · Jun 20, 2003

Now, I also found this card that seems tempting: ($200)

http://www.ateck.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=453055074

Power Color RADEON 9700 Gold 128MB DDR CRT+TV+DVI 8X AGP with 7 Games- Retail Box

EVIL COMMANDO 2 Radeon 9700 gold

Model :Radeon 9700 128MB (XR97-C3) Gamer Pack

EVIL COMMANDO 2 gold -Evil Commando 2 Gold RADEON 9700 is the world fastest and most advanced graphics board, featuring ATI RADEON 9700 Visual Processing Unit (VPU). Through a combination of incredible 3D rendering performance, sophisticated real-time visual effects, unsurpassed image quality and cutting-edge video features, it takes the PC entertainment experience to a totally new level. Bundled with a 7-in-1 Deluxe Game Pack, it is the best value pack for your Entertainment.

Specification

Powered by the revolutionary AGP 8x RADEON 9700 visual Processing Unit (VPU) with core engine @275Mhz clock speed .
Supports 8 parallel rendering pipelines process up to 2.2 billion pixels per second.
4 parallel geometry engines process up to 275 million transformed and lit polygons per second.
Complete DirectX 9.0 support for precedented realism and sophisticated visual effects.
SMOOTHVISION 2.0 technology provides new levels of image quality with advanced full-scene anti-aliasing (FSAA) and anisotropic filtering.
Revolutionary new video features including VIDEOSHADER and FULLSTREAM technologies.
Supports 256-bit memory interface with 128MB of powerful double data rate (DDR) memory @540Mhz clock speed with peak 17.2GB/sec bandwidth.
Compliant to AGP 3.0 specification by Intel Corporation supports the corresponding technology, AGP 8X, doubles the peak bandwidth capability of the AGP bus to 2.1GB/s, while retaining compatibility with the previous-generation AGP 4X technology.
Featuring ATI -Industry-leading software suite for the best enhancement and accelerate the ultimate visual experience.
First 8-pixel pipeline architecture provides top 3D performance for both Direct3D and OpenGL games and applications.
Display configuration supports CRT, DVI-I & TV-Out (PAL/NTSC).
Multi display configuration support with ATI HYDRAVISION software.
Industry-leading hardware DVD video playback with software DVD player support.
Supports 3D resolutions (32-bit color) up to 2048x1536.
First to fully support DirectX 9.0 and the latest OpenGL functionality.
Includes Deluxe Game Pack with full version of latest sport racing entertainment 4X4 EVO2 and 6 other lite games like Serious Sam (The Second Encounter), Stronghold (Crusader),Rally Trophy, Zax (The Alien Hunter), Myth III (The Wolf Age) and Age of Wonders II ( The Wizard^s Throne).
3D Features

Eight parallel rendering pipelines
Four parallel geometry engines
256-bit DDR memory interface
AGP 8X support
SMARTSHADER 2.0
Programmable pixel and vertex shaders
16 textures per pass
Pixel shaders up to 160 instructions with 128-bit floating point precision
Vertex shaders up to 1024 instructions with flow control
Multiple render target support
Shadow volume rendering acceleration
High precision 10-bit per channel frame buffer support
Supports DirectX 9.0 and the latest version of OpenGL
SMOOTHVISION 2.0
2x/4x/6x full scene anti-aliasing modes
Adaptive algorithm with programmable sample patterns.
2x/4x/8x/16x anisotropic filtering modes
Adaptive algorithm with bi-linear (performance) and tri-linear (quality) options
HYPER Z III
3-level Hierarchical Z-Buffer with early Z test
Lossless Z-Buffer compression (up to 24:1)
Fast Z-Buffer Clear
TRUFORM 2.0
2nd generation N-Patch higher order surface support
Discrete and continuous tessellation levels per polygon
Displacement mapping
VIDEOSHADER
Seamless integration of pixel shaders with video
FULLSTREAM video de-blocking technology
Noise removal filtering for captured video
MPEG-2 decoding with motion compensation, iDCT and color space conversion
All-format DTV/HDTV decoding
YPrPb component output
Adaptive de-interlacing and frame rate conversion
Dual integrated display controllers
Dual integrated 10-bit per channel 400 MHz DACs
Integrated 165 MHz TMDS transmitter (DVI & HDCP compliant)
Integrated TV Output support up to 1024x768 resolution
Optimized for Pentium 4 SSE2 and AMD Athlon 3Dnow!
PC 2002 compliant
Revolutionary New Video Features

Unique VIDEOSHADER engine uses programmable pixel shaders to accelerate video processing and provide better-looking visuals
ATI new FULLSTREAM technology removes blocky artifacts from Streaming and Internet video and provides sharper image quality
Operating Systems Support

Windows XP
Windows 2000
Windows Me
Display Support

VGA connector for analog CRT
S-video or composite connector for TV / VCR
DVI-I connector for digital CRT or flat panel
Independent resolutions and refresh rates for any two connected displays
System Requirements

Intel Pentium 4/III/II/Celeron, AMD K6/Duron/Athlon/Athlon XP or compatible with AGP 2X (3.3v), 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (2X/4X/8X).
128MB of system memory
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Minimum 300 watts power supply or above.

ChipDeath · Jun 20, 2003

I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure that the 9500PRO is a better choice than the 9700 (NON-pro). Because the only difference between the 9500Pro and 9700Pro is clockspeed of the chip and RAM, but the 9700 (NON-pro) has less in the way of features than either of the PRO versions.

Put simply, a 9500Pro can be overclocked into a 9700Pro, but a 9700(non-pro) cannot.

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