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May 12, 2010 12:16:54 AM

All opinions are welcome, and I'm hoping that Jaguar weighs in on this one. :) 

I've been using a Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPT for years, and I hadn't read up on LCDs/response times/etc back then. It's listed as 12ms, :cry:  but doesn't say whether that is for greys or blacks (I'm guessing grey).

I have stumbled onto Samsung F2380 23IN Widescreen LCD Monitor cPVA 1920X1080 16:9 150000:1DC DVI-D 3000:1 Static VGA . I understand that the response time is 8ms, but that's not much worse than 5ms, and it's better than what I've been using. Additionally, it's not a TN panel; it's cPVA, so the color reproduction and viewing angles are superior.

Furthermore, a review here on TH rates it pretty good, even for gaming. An X-bit Labs article says that "these monitors are not too slow and roughly correspond to 5-millisecond TN matrixes, but you should take this into account if you like to play dynamic games." Should I consider this one at all?

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May 13, 2010 5:22:09 AM

It should be decent enough. While it is true that the colors will probably be better than a TN panel monitor, it is not as good as e-IPS, PVA, MVA, and IPS panel monitors based on some user opinions over at hardforum.com.

8ms should be decent enough for gaming, you might see a little ghosting from time to time, but I don't think it should be too bad. It seems to be a good all round monitor.



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May 13, 2010 10:11:24 PM

jaguarskx said:
It should be decent enough. While it is true that the colors will probably be better than a TN panel monitor, it is not as good as e-IPS, PVA, MVA, and IPS panel monitors based on some user opinions over at hardforum.com.

8ms should be decent enough for gaming, you might see a little ghosting from time to time, but I don't think it should be too bad. It seems to be a good all round monitor.



Hmm.. I did some more reading at hardforum and other places. I've decided to give that one a pass. I saw your review and others on the Asus VK246H. It's apparently great for gaming with low response time and low input lag, but that monitor hit the market in 2008, I think.

Are you aware of any similar TN panels with comparable response time and input lag? Also, should pixel-mapping factor into my decision? I've done some research, but it's hard to get results for those specific things.
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May 14, 2010 4:26:06 PM

So what if it the Asus VK246H entered the market in 2008 (winter I believe)?

Newer monitors are not always better than older monitors. I don't really research TN panel monitors 'cause I don't really use them. Checkout Prad.de for some monitor reviews which my help you out, or post a question at Hardforum since their Display subforum is more active than this one.

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/reviews.html
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May 15, 2010 2:51:27 AM

Maybe this post will help others out.

Prad.de is an excellent resource. After doing a lot of reading, I've settled on the LG Flatron W2442PA-SF, which was rated better than the Asus (and is a bit newer). Actually I got the -BF (black frame), but they are the same monitor otherwise. From that review:

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A response time of 2 ms is advertised for the TN panel on the LG W2442PA, based on a grey-to-grey change. This value is achieved using an outstanding overdrive solution that has been integrated so perfectly that it is no longer noticeable. A poorly adjusted overdrive can cause bright edges to appear around moving objects, for example, which is known as a Corona effect.


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The LG W2442PA performs very well in a stopwatch test against a CRT model. On average, we measured a value of 3,2 ms. In 20 percent of all cases, the deviation was a maximum of 16 ms (1 Frame per second). In 80 percent of cases, there was no lag at all. Accordingly, the aforementioned value emerged as the average value.

Although the average value is often significant, we can reiterate that there is usually no lag and that the maximum lag is just 16 ms (1 Frame per second).

With this maximum value and average value, the model is also interesting for hardcore gamers. Occasional gamers should be able to arrive at very good results on the hunt for points with these values.


In addition to these awesome qualities, the monitor comes with HDMI, DVI, and VGA. Also, it actually has a decent stand offering Tilt (-3 ~ 17°), Swivel (350°), Pivot (0 ~ 90°), Height (110mm).

I purchased my monitor at this link from NCIXUS for $240, which is a great price compared to other places that I found while casually looking. They also offer a zero dead pixel guarantee for $10 extra. The only caveat is that they ship from Canada, and I had to pay $40 for shipping, bringing the total to $300; however, that price is less than/equal to the same prices I saw elsewhere, and I get the bonus of a zero dead pixel policy! :pt1cable: 

I searched long and hard to find a great monitor with all of those exact features at a decent price, so I hope someone else can benefit from my research.
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