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Hey...

I upgraded a friends PC from 98SE to XP Pro.. I did spend some time telling him that upgrades like this are a bad idea, they hardly ever work properly, etc...

Anyway, it was all a bit fúcked up, but after some tweaking and letting windows update itself with XP2 and whatever else (Last resort - I thought it could hardly make it worse, so what the hell :smile: ) it's almost working fine... Except the user rights seem screwed up. Administrators don't seem to have administrator rights (can't do stuff in Computer management, run regedit, etc - Get the 'No permissions blah blah' message).

Even if you log in as Administrator you don't have rights... The only way to get full unfettered access is to boot into Safe mode and log in as administrator, but obviously that's a pain in the A$$.

If I create a new account while logged in as administrator(safe mode), then that account still has the problem.

I'm pretty sure a fresh re-install would solve these problems, but as everything else seems quite peachy I'd rather try to fix this one issue. He doesn't really care (or notice) things like this - he's relatively clueless - it just annoys me and thwarts my attempts at fixing any problems he does have.

Any suggestions gratefully received....

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Take off the fisherprice login screen and then log in as administrator in windows. See if that doesn't work.

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Reply to Yahiko81

Yeah did that, still no joy :frown:

I noticed you don't get administrator on the 'my first computer' style log-in screen, and switched to good-old 'type yer name in' style, happily lets you log in, just gives you the same problem....

It's annoying because there's some admin stuff you can't do (advanced user management for one), if you're in SAFE mode because of the WORKSTATION service not running (and it won't start in safe mode of course :mad: ).... and then if you're not in safe mode, you don't have rights... *sigh*

If there was some way to completely un-install and re-install the whole User admin/Security side without affecting the rest of the system that would be good, but I guess that's not possible.

It's just that from his point of view there's not enough of a problem to warrant a fresh install, although if I told him he needs it done then he'd be OK about it.. but it would be another week of my time, which I could use in more productive ways.

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"Sex without love is an empty experience...
But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best" - Woody Allen

Reply to ChipDeath

Technically, with regards to MS users license, you have no users rights :(

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Reply to RichPLS

LOL... don't I know it :frown:

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"Sex without love is an empty experience...
But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best" - Woody Allen

Reply to ChipDeath

That's an easy question ChipDeath.

Download Tweak UI from Microsoft and you can manage the user accounts. You can create a new user account and login password for him and Assign all privileges to the new User account.

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Reply to SoDNighthawk

<A HREF="http://www.anothersite.co.uk/gallery/index.php?action=showpic&cat=3&pic=1856" target="_new"> Good reading material! </A>

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And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

Reply to RichPLS

Rich change dealers the one you got is ripping you off.

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Reply to SoDNighthawk

LMAO ...



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Reply to Jake_Barnes

are you a fan of "The Chump" too?

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Reply to TeeTewl

LOL... :lol:

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"Sex without love is an empty experience...
But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best" - Woody Allen

Reply to ChipDeath

I think the problem is a bit too low-level for tweakui to help, but thanks for the idea. I'll give it a crack next time I'm up there....

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"Sex without love is an empty experience...
But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best" - Woody Allen

Reply to ChipDeath

I guess I was not as clear as I should have been ?

Your question was in regards to getting control of an Administrator or User password that has full operating access control, because since you did the update you have lost that ability on his computer. Therefore certain program ask for user rights.

Tweak UI overrides any and all accounts on the XP install and will re-apply them to any New User account you create with full access rules. Therefore giving you total access control to any resident program including Administrator rights.

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Reply to SoDNighthawk

Before logging in press CTRL+ALT+DEL and DEL again.

Normal loggin window appears and login in as Administrator.

If that doesn't work. do a repiar install. Rather quick.

Sorry. Bit drunk here. Otherwise, anyone heard of l0pht?

Nice program cracking anyones username and password over a neet work.

If trying \\%PCNAME%\c$ and getting all the goodies. and wiping a few things and all.

Not for friends but for the pesky nephew...

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Reply to craqon

I've set it up to give the normal login all the time anyway, and if I log in as Administrator I still don't seem to have rights, except in safe mode :eek:

I might have to try a repair install, but since It's updated to SP2 I'd probably have to go through all that again. :frown:

The problem doesn't seem to be giving people admin rights - it seems more like windows doesn't understand what admin rights <i>means</i>. I think the security side of the OS is a bit stuffed really...

When I upgraded mine from 98 DNS didn't work, but everything else was fine. Only a fresh install cured the problem, and I have a horrible feeling the same may be true of this :frown:

Ah well. It's not as if I promised him it would be fine - quite the opposite really.

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"Sex without love is an empty experience...
But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best" - Woody Allen

Reply to ChipDeath
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