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Anonymous
August 12, 2004 10:03:03 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720 PCMCIA wireless NIC using a
MN-700 to connect to our LAN.

We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC and the router.

Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP address nor can it connect
if given a static IP address.

This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on the same notebook.

I am able to connect to the wireless network; however, will not pull an
address.

Help
August 12, 2004 10:44:56 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.

Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
connection is quickly lost.

I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
betas broke my networking, including RC2.

I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I pulled
an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to connect
using that; again, I would get a connection for a while,
and then it would blink out.
>-----Original Message-----
>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720 PCMCIA
wireless NIC using a
>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>
>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC and
the router.
>
>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP address
nor can it connect
>if given a static IP address.
>
>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
the same notebook.
>
>I am able to connect to the wireless network; however,
will not pull an
>address.
>
>Help
>.
>
August 12, 2004 11:10:58 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use my mn-
730 (the PCI card).
>-----Original Message-----
>I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
>networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
>
>Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
>tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
>connection is quickly lost.
>
>I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
>involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
>betas broke my networking, including RC2.
>
>I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I pulled
>an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
connect
>using that; again, I would get a connection for a while,
>and then it would blink out.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
PCMCIA
>wireless NIC using a
>>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>>
>>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC and
>the router.
>>
>>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP address
>nor can it connect
>>if given a static IP address.
>>
>>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
>the same notebook.
>>
>>I am able to connect to the wireless network; however,
>will not pull an
>>address.
>>
>>Help
>>.
>>
>.
>
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August 12, 2004 11:55:29 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

I can confirm SP2 breaks the connection for my Intel
Anypoint 2 wireless network as well. Hence my other post
asking if the Microsoft hardware can ad-hoc, it would
appear not if you have SP2 then.I tried restore, no joy,
still can't see each other even with firewalls off.

>-----Original Message-----
>Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use my
mn-
>730 (the PCI card).
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
>>networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
>>
>>Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
>>tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
>>connection is quickly lost.
>>
>>I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
>>involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
>>betas broke my networking, including RC2.
>>
>>I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I pulled
>>an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
>connect
>>using that; again, I would get a connection for a
while,
>>and then it would blink out.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
>PCMCIA
>>wireless NIC using a
>>>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>>>
>>>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC
and
>>the router.
>>>
>>>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP
address
>>nor can it connect
>>>if given a static IP address.
>>>
>>>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
>>the same notebook.
>>>
>>>I am able to connect to the wireless network; however,
>>will not pull an
>>>address.
>>>
>>>Help
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
Anonymous
August 12, 2004 12:32:03 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Double-check some of the basics, Phil: Same channel, same Workgroup, etc.
I'm running SP2 on my LAN here, and have never had a break show up even with
all the machines running the Windows Firewall separately.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Phil" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:50f001c4807c$68e47840$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>I can confirm SP2 breaks the connection for my Intel
> Anypoint 2 wireless network as well. Hence my other post
> asking if the Microsoft hardware can ad-hoc, it would
> appear not if you have SP2 then.I tried restore, no joy,
> still can't see each other even with firewalls off.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use my
> mn-
>>730 (the PCI card).
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
>>>networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
>>>
>>>Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
>>>tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
>>>connection is quickly lost.
>>>
>>>I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
>>>involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
>>>betas broke my networking, including RC2.
>>>
>>>I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I pulled
>>>an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
>>connect
>>>using that; again, I would get a connection for a
> while,
>>>and then it would blink out.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
>>PCMCIA
>>>wireless NIC using a
>>>>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>>>>
>>>>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC
> and
>>>the router.
>>>>
>>>>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP
> address
>>>nor can it connect
>>>>if given a static IP address.
>>>>
>>>>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
>>>the same notebook.
>>>>
>>>>I am able to connect to the wireless network; however,
>>>will not pull an
>>>>address.
>>>>
>>>>Help
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
Anonymous
August 12, 2004 1:58:03 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

'fraid I checked all that Chris, it may be something to
do with the proprietry Intel sharing software (it is
pretty old kit now)
I was looking to upgrade it anyway but I hate being
defeated :-)

>-----Original Message-----
>Double-check some of the basics, Phil: Same channel,
same Workgroup, etc.
>I'm running SP2 on my LAN here, and have never had a
break show up even with
>all the machines running the Windows Firewall separately.
>--
>Chris H.
>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>Associate Expert
>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
>"Phil" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:50f001c4807c$68e47840$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>I can confirm SP2 breaks the connection for my Intel
>> Anypoint 2 wireless network as well. Hence my other
post
>> asking if the Microsoft hardware can ad-hoc, it would
>> appear not if you have SP2 then.I tried restore, no
joy,
>> still can't see each other even with firewalls off.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use my
>> mn-
>>>730 (the PCI card).
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
>>>>networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
>>>>
>>>>Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
>>>>tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
>>>>connection is quickly lost.
>>>>
>>>>I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
>>>>involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
>>>>betas broke my networking, including RC2.
>>>>
>>>>I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I
pulled
>>>>an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
>>>connect
>>>>using that; again, I would get a connection for a
>> while,
>>>>and then it would blink out.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
>>>PCMCIA
>>>>wireless NIC using a
>>>>>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>>>>>
>>>>>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC
>> and
>>>>the router.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP
>> address
>>>>nor can it connect
>>>>>if given a static IP address.
>>>>>
>>>>>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
>>>>the same notebook.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am able to connect to the wireless network;
however,
>>>>will not pull an
>>>>>address.
>>>>>
>>>>>Help
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
>
>.
>
Anonymous
August 12, 2004 2:43:18 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Some people have seen signal strength problems with the new driver for the
MN-720 and MN-730. You might want to try rolling back the driver to the
previous version to see if that addresses the issue.

--
Neel Malik
Program Manager
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"Martin" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:506201c48076$3084ead0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use my mn-
> 730 (the PCI card).
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
> >networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
> >
> >Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
> >tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
> >connection is quickly lost.
> >
> >I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
> >involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
> >betas broke my networking, including RC2.
> >
> >I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I pulled
> >an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
> connect
> >using that; again, I would get a connection for a while,
> >and then it would blink out.
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
> PCMCIA
> >wireless NIC using a
> >>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
> >>
> >>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC and
> >the router.
> >>
> >>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP address
> >nor can it connect
> >>if given a static IP address.
> >>
> >>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
> >the same notebook.
> >>
> >>I am able to connect to the wireless network; however,
> >will not pull an
> >>address.
> >>
> >>Help
> >>.
> >>
> >.
> >
Anonymous
August 12, 2004 2:46:17 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Do you have the same problem if you are not using WPA?
Is the reported signal strength on the MN-720 good? If not, you might want
to try rolling back the driver for the MN-720.
Are you sure you have the correct WPA passphrase? If the passphrase is
incorrect, you will get the behavior you are seeing.

--
Neel Malik
Program Manager
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"MCSE2003-SP2-EARLY-ADOPTER"
<MCSE2003-SP2-EARLY-ADOPTER@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B6BBD9DF-8E1B-4460-868C-4DD75CB8A63C@microsoft.com...
> I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720 PCMCIA wireless NIC
using a
> MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>
> We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC and the router.
>
> Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP address nor can it connect
> if given a static IP address.
>
> This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on the same notebook.
>
> I am able to connect to the wireless network; however, will not pull an
> address.
>
> Help
August 12, 2004 4:17:43 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Neel,

My problem does not lie with signal strength, it lies
with the fact that the entire connection is flaky.
Sometimes it connects for a short while, but the icon on
the system tray doesn't show that I am connected (yet I
can connect to the internet). Sometimes it doesn't
connect at all.

I noticed that the new driver that came with the
MSBNDownload update describes my MN730 adapter as
a "Microsoft Wireless Notebook Adapter". Yet my adapter
is the PCI adapter. I tried using the Update Driver
feature from the Device Manager, and I was able to
replace the newer driver with the old one. Still no luck.

I purchased a Linksys USB Wireless G adapter today, and
I'm going to test it tonight. If it works, I will have to
assume that Microsoft released a poor driver for my PCI
adapter.

I wish there was a way that we users could know if
Microsoft has heard our problems and is working on them.
I hate the idea that I can't use my nice MN730 PCI
adapters in XP SP2 (I own two of them).

>-----Original Message-----
>Some people have seen signal strength problems with the
new driver for the
>MN-720 and MN-730. You might want to try rolling back
the driver to the
>previous version to see if that addresses the issue.
>
>--
>Neel Malik
>Program Manager
>Microsoft Corporation
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>
>
>
>"Martin" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:506201c48076$3084ead0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use my
mn-
>> 730 (the PCI card).
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
>> >networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
>> >
>> >Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
>> >tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
>> >connection is quickly lost.
>> >
>> >I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
>> >involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
>> >betas broke my networking, including RC2.
>> >
>> >I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I
pulled
>> >an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
>> connect
>> >using that; again, I would get a connection for a
while,
>> >and then it would blink out.
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
>> PCMCIA
>> >wireless NIC using a
>> >>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>> >>
>> >>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC
and
>> >the router.
>> >>
>> >>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP
address
>> >nor can it connect
>> >>if given a static IP address.
>> >>
>> >>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
>> >the same notebook.
>> >>
>> >>I am able to connect to the wireless network;
however,
>> >will not pull an
>> >>address.
>> >>
>> >>Help
>> >>.
>> >>
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
Anonymous
August 12, 2004 6:05:08 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

I would be very interested to learn the results of your testing with the
other adapter. You did not indicate what type of security you are using. Are
you using WPA, WEP, or none? Do your results change if you use another type
of security.

Do you or your neighbors have any 2.4GHz cordless phones, video cameras,
speakers, or baby monitors?
Have you tried changing channels on the MN-700?
How many wireless networks can you see?

--
Neel Malik
Program Manager
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"Martin" <occulis.fremeni@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:516b01c480a1$0acbe0c0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Neel,
>
> My problem does not lie with signal strength, it lies
> with the fact that the entire connection is flaky.
> Sometimes it connects for a short while, but the icon on
> the system tray doesn't show that I am connected (yet I
> can connect to the internet). Sometimes it doesn't
> connect at all.
>
> I noticed that the new driver that came with the
> MSBNDownload update describes my MN730 adapter as
> a "Microsoft Wireless Notebook Adapter". Yet my adapter
> is the PCI adapter. I tried using the Update Driver
> feature from the Device Manager, and I was able to
> replace the newer driver with the old one. Still no luck.
>
> I purchased a Linksys USB Wireless G adapter today, and
> I'm going to test it tonight. If it works, I will have to
> assume that Microsoft released a poor driver for my PCI
> adapter.
>
> I wish there was a way that we users could know if
> Microsoft has heard our problems and is working on them.
> I hate the idea that I can't use my nice MN730 PCI
> adapters in XP SP2 (I own two of them).
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Some people have seen signal strength problems with the
> new driver for the
> >MN-720 and MN-730. You might want to try rolling back
> the driver to the
> >previous version to see if that addresses the issue.
> >
> >--
> >Neel Malik
> >Program Manager
> >Microsoft Corporation
> >
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> >
> >
> >
> >"Martin" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:506201c48076$3084ead0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use my
> mn-
> >> 730 (the PCI card).
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
> >> >networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
> >> >
> >> >Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the system
> >> >tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
> >> >connection is quickly lost.
> >> >
> >> >I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
> >> >involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
> >> >betas broke my networking, including RC2.
> >> >
> >> >I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I
> pulled
> >> >an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
> >> connect
> >> >using that; again, I would get a connection for a
> while,
> >> >and then it would blink out.
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
> >> PCMCIA
> >> >wireless NIC using a
> >> >>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
> >> >>
> >> >>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC
> and
> >> >the router.
> >> >>
> >> >>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP
> address
> >> >nor can it connect
> >> >>if given a static IP address.
> >> >>
> >> >>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's on
> >> >the same notebook.
> >> >>
> >> >>I am able to connect to the wireless network;
> however,
> >> >will not pull an
> >> >>address.
> >> >>
> >> >>Help
> >> >>.
> >> >>
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
August 13, 2004 10:27:25 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

You might see if powering off and powering up the MN-700
allows you to connect once from the MN-720. Just to see
if the problem is with the 700 or 720.This isn't a
solution, just a test. Who wants to reboot a router every
time you turn on another computer.
Good luck, they're neat but frustrating pieces of kit.

>-----Original Message-----
>Neel,
>
>My problem does not lie with signal strength, it lies
>with the fact that the entire connection is flaky.
>Sometimes it connects for a short while, but the icon on
>the system tray doesn't show that I am connected (yet I
>can connect to the internet). Sometimes it doesn't
>connect at all.
>
>I noticed that the new driver that came with the
>MSBNDownload update describes my MN730 adapter as
>a "Microsoft Wireless Notebook Adapter". Yet my adapter
>is the PCI adapter. I tried using the Update Driver
>feature from the Device Manager, and I was able to
>replace the newer driver with the old one. Still no
luck.
>
>I purchased a Linksys USB Wireless G adapter today, and
>I'm going to test it tonight. If it works, I will have
to
>assume that Microsoft released a poor driver for my PCI
>adapter.
>
>I wish there was a way that we users could know if
>Microsoft has heard our problems and is working on them.
>I hate the idea that I can't use my nice MN730 PCI
>adapters in XP SP2 (I own two of them).
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Some people have seen signal strength problems with the
>new driver for the
>>MN-720 and MN-730. You might want to try rolling back
>the driver to the
>>previous version to see if that addresses the issue.
>>
>>--
>>Neel Malik
>>Program Manager
>>Microsoft Corporation
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
>confers no rights.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Martin" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>message
>>news:506201c48076$3084ead0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Oh, one more thing. This problem happens when I use
my
>mn-
>>> 730 (the PCI card).
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >I have the same thing. SP2 has broken my wireless
>>> >networking. I am also using the mn-700 AP.
>>> >
>>> >Occassionally, I will get a connection- but the
system
>>> >tray icon doesn't show that I'm connected, and the
>>> >connection is quickly lost.
>>> >
>>> >I am very frustrated with this problem. I also was
>>> >involved in the beta testing for SP2, and none of the
>>> >betas broke my networking, including RC2.
>>> >
>>> >I believe the problem is the PCI card, because I
>pulled
>>> >an old 802.11b router from my closet and tried to
>>> connect
>>> >using that; again, I would get a connection for a
>while,
>>> >and then it would blink out.
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>I have a Tosiba Satellite with a Microsoft MN-720
>>> PCMCIA
>>> >wireless NIC using a
>>> >>MN-700 to connect to our LAN.
>>> >>
>>> >>We use WPA and the lastest firmware on both the NIC
>and
>>> >the router.
>>> >>
>>> >>Since installing SP2 the NIC cannot pull a DHCP
>address
>>> >nor can it connect
>>> >>if given a static IP address.
>>> >>
>>> >>This did not happen using either of the beta SP2's
on
>>> >the same notebook.
>>> >>
>>> >>I am able to connect to the wireless network;
>however,
>>> >will not pull an
>>> >>address.
>>> >>
>>> >>Help
>>> >>.
>>> >>
>>> >.
>>> >
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>
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