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P4 3.06 with 1M L3 cache

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July 15, 2003 9:50:12 PM

just heard from PCPOP that intel have released a 3.06GHz chip that has 1M L3 Cache and 512kb L2 cache. so that gives the P4 a grand total of 1.5M of cache!!
intel claims that this new chip performs as high as around 19% faster than the old 3.06.
cost will be around $690.00 US, while the old 3.06 drops to around $455.00

source http://www.pcpop.com/news/2003/7/9844.shtml (use translater)

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July 15, 2003 9:55:15 PM

Is that not the new p4 xeon?

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ad_rach on 07/15/03 05:56 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
July 15, 2003 10:01:35 PM

dont think so...
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July 15, 2003 10:08:39 PM

i'm pretty sure it's a xeon.i can't find where at the moment but i am sure i read about it on The Inquirer in the last couple of days.Why else would it have a 533fsb and all that cache?I'll try to find the article.

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]
July 15, 2003 10:11:32 PM

<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9765" target="_new">Here is an article</A> which talks about it as a xeon.It's not the one i looked at just recently but i'll have a look for that too.

<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.org/?article=10465" target="_new">Got it!!</A>

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ad_rach on 07/15/03 06:15 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
July 15, 2003 11:19:16 PM

yes that a XEON DP just a tempory competitor before nocona

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July 16, 2003 12:27:58 AM

That is definitely a Xeon. And a good one at that too. It should be priced at around $690 or something. The interesting bit is that its arrival cuts the prices of the whole Xeon family (the old 3.06Ghz with 512KB cache has dropped by over 30%, for instance). With this, Xeon is trying to establish itself as the very best alternative for workstations, until further software support arrives to give x86-64 a helping hand... Both have their strengths, mind you.

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles
July 16, 2003 3:10:26 AM

I want one of those for my P4 2.4c. Now which Mobo do I buy? That will beat the pants off A64 all day long.
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July 16, 2003 6:54:24 AM

Yes, XEON's come with up to 2MB cache soldered onto the pin grid array! It's about time they released a 1MB 3.06, but I've seen...I think it was up to 2.8GHz using 2MB! And if I recall correctly, the XEON is designed to accept up to 8MB L3 cache...but I doubt Intel actually produced anything higher than 2MB.

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July 16, 2003 8:04:10 AM

heheheh... yea.. its a Xeon alright.. my mistake :redface:
July 20, 2003 3:02:30 AM

Just a small bump here... but some other benchmarks have appeared on the NET. For once, SPEC.org shows two independent scores (Dell and HP) for the 3.06Ghz with 1MB L3 cache, and they're indeed substantially better. On their site, Intel claims a linpack run also showed similar results (and they're not apple, so I believe they can be somewhat trusted...) It would seem as if the 3.06Ghz is one hell of a workstation processor. Plus, it's price is attractive, for its amount of cache. Sadly, however, none of the traditional review sites did a test drive... Nasty guys at Intel didn't bother to spread review samples around... :frown:

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles
July 20, 2003 3:14:04 AM

How much does it cost for XEON 8MB L3? I'll be the first in line to buy one of those.
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July 20, 2003 6:38:22 AM

I meant what I said:
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I doubt Intel actually produced anything higher than 2MB


They might have, but I've never seen one on the market. I'm fairly sure the thing was designed to go that high, so maybe you should get out the soldering iron!

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July 20, 2003 6:38:36 AM

it would probably be quite expensive as i assume it would run synchronous to the cpu's clock speed...3.06ghz memory chips are expensive...i would say more than 1 thousand dollars.

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July 20, 2003 1:01:43 PM

Not at all. That's the beauty of this processor! It is priced at <b>$690</b>! How's that?... Not bad... Setting up a dual 3.06Ghz 1MB L3 cache (L2 and L3 total 1536KB) might be cheaper and probably <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030715010253..." target="_new">faster</A> than setting up a dual Opteron 244 - and a great deal lot cheaper than a dual 246, in which the processor alone will cost <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030701021703..." target="_new">$2100</A>, according to unofficial sources. This 246 falls into the price range of a full-blown Itanium 1.4Ghz and 4MB cache...
This new Xeon is interesting. So is Opteron. This new Xeon wouldn't have been on Intel's priority list, if it wasn't for Opteron. Long live competition! :smile:

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Mephistopheles on 07/20/03 10:15 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
July 20, 2003 2:12:04 PM

$690 is a lot better than $2100 bucks AMD wants. I thought Intel was way to expensive. Looks like AMD takes the crown on this one.
July 21, 2003 4:50:27 PM

Xeon MP Gallatin core 2.8GHZ come with 4MB of L3 cache there version with 2MB of L3 but avaible at lower speed and yes they are sync with core.

This Xeon with 1MB l3 are XEON DP and use DP platform

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July 21, 2003 5:57:53 PM

Thats in 1000 unit quantities, single processors will cost more and dont forget the mobos can cost up to 650 bucks
July 21, 2003 7:09:38 PM

Indeed, pricewatch lists the 3.06Ghz with 1MB cache as starting at $748. It is certainly expensive... Given enough time, though , I'd expect the prices to drop assymptotically to around $690. It's Intel, so they probably don't have any yield problems... hopefully.

If this increased cache is any indication, then Prescott might have a very good performance increase over Northwood. Maybe the 20% or so reported by Intel is actually real?... :cool:

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles
July 21, 2003 8:21:48 PM

When they move the Fsb to 1066. Release the 5.0 Ghz chips all ready.
July 21, 2003 8:34:50 PM

If this increased cache is any indication, then Prescott might have a very good performance increase over Northwood. Maybe the 20% or so reported by Intel is actually real?...

That assumtion made by person here wich include myself.

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July 21, 2003 8:56:13 PM

Prescott goes to 1066 FSB. Tejas will move to 1.2 FSB. Plus 2MB L2 Cache.
July 21, 2003 10:29:30 PM

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That assumtion made by person here wich include myself.

Oh, so that was your estimate, juin?... Was that not an official Intel number or something?...

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