Files backed up to disk

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Without doing a test restore, you will never know if you are getting
competent backups. Change the name of a couple of files you have previously
backed up. Then restore the files from the backup. See if the backup works
and that the file sizes/dates are the same (assuming that the file has not
changed since you backed it up).

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"gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm using Win XP Professional, service pack 2. I'm using New Tech
> Infosystems, NTI to back up certain data files in Quicken and Windows
> Word.
>
> My problem is analogous to the old joke, " How do we know the light goes
> out
> when we close the refrigerator door?" How do I know the data I want to
> keep
> is really on the disk? I have no reason to restore, since both
> applications
> mentioned above are functioning normally.
>
> Thanks

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"gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3B76F868-6055-4F98-A59A-C96F6E4CE009@microsoft.com...
> I'm using Win XP Professional, service pack 2. I'm using New Tech
> Infosystems, NTI to back up certain data files in Quicken and Windows
> Word.
>
> My problem is analogous to the old joke, " How do we know the light goes
> out
> when we close the refrigerator door?" How do I know the data I want to
> keep
> is really on the disk? I have no reason to restore, since both
> applications
> mentioned above are functioning normally.
>

I use Second Copy to back up. It simply puts a copy of the file to wherever
you want it. You can then access this copied file and see if it's what it
says it is. I don't know whether NTI backs up in this simple way or whether
it transmutes the files into some compressed/altered form which actually
requires a *restore* to open, but if it does then I would regard it as a
pain. Some progs need that prog to restore files. Second Copy simply needs
the original application.

Rob Graham

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Rob graham wrote:

>
> "gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3B76F868-6055-4F98-A59A-C96F6E4CE009@microsoft.com...
>> I'm using Win XP Professional, service pack 2. I'm using New Tech
>> Infosystems, NTI to back up certain data files in Quicken and Windows
>> Word.
>>
>> My problem is analogous to the old joke, " How do we know the light
>> goes out
>> when we close the refrigerator door?" How do I know the data I want
>> to keep
>> is really on the disk? I have no reason to restore, since both
>> applications
>> mentioned above are functioning normally.
>>
>
> I use Second Copy to back up. It simply puts a copy of the file to
> wherever you want it. You can then access this copied file and see if
> it's what it says it is. I don't know whether NTI backs up in this
> simple way or whether it transmutes the files into some
> compressed/altered form which actually requires a *restore* to open,
> but if it does then I would regard it as a pain. Some progs need that
> prog to restore files. Second Copy simply needs the original
> application.
>
> Rob Graham

I agree with Mr. Graham that SecondCopy is excellent. However, you don't
need the original program to restore the files. The whole point of
SecondCopy is that it is only *copying* the files, not putting them
into a proprietary format that can only be used with certain backup
software.

Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

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=?Utf-8?B?Z2lsZ2FtZXNo?= wrote:
>
> My problem is analogous to the old joke, " How do we know the light goes out
> when we close the refrigerator door?" How do I know the data I want to keep
> is really on the disk? I have no reason to restore, since both applications
> mentioned above are functioning normally.

Was visiting a buddy in college back when. The number of moths in the
living room was like a horror movie. So he opened up the fridge door,
turned all the other lights off, and they all flew into the fridge.

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The "What", "When", and "Where" format of Second Copy seems straight forward
enough, but I'm having trouble getting it to copy to a blank disk.

"Malke" wrote:

> Rob graham wrote:
>
> >
> > "gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3B76F868-6055-4F98-A59A-C96F6E4CE009@microsoft.com...
> >> I'm using Win XP Professional, service pack 2. I'm using New Tech
> >> Infosystems, NTI to back up certain data files in Quicken and Windows
> >> Word.
> >>
> >> My problem is analogous to the old joke, " How do we know the light
> >> goes out
> >> when we close the refrigerator door?" How do I know the data I want
> >> to keep
> >> is really on the disk? I have no reason to restore, since both
> >> applications
> >> mentioned above are functioning normally.
> >>
> >
> > I use Second Copy to back up. It simply puts a copy of the file to
> > wherever you want it. You can then access this copied file and see if
> > it's what it says it is. I don't know whether NTI backs up in this
> > simple way or whether it transmutes the files into some
> > compressed/altered form which actually requires a *restore* to open,
> > but if it does then I would regard it as a pain. Some progs need that
> > prog to restore files. Second Copy simply needs the original
> > application.
> >
> > Rob Graham
>
> I agree with Mr. Graham that SecondCopy is excellent. However, you don't
> need the original program to restore the files. The whole point of
> SecondCopy is that it is only *copying* the files, not putting them
> into a proprietary format that can only be used with certain backup
> software.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

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gilgamesh wrote:

> The "What", "When", and "Where" format of Second Copy seems straight
> forward enough, but I'm having trouble getting it to copy to a blank
> disk.

Perhaps it doesn't copy directly to cd? I don't know because as often as
I've used it on my own Windows machines in the past and clients'
machines now, I never have tried to go directly to a cd. I always
funnel the backup to a single "backup" folder, usually on a second hard
drive, to make it easy for the client to burn the one folder to cd or
dvd on a regular basis.

Since you paid for the program, I'm sure that Centered Systems has tech
support that could answer that question for you. I don't have it
installed on any of the working machines here (because they aren't
running Windows) or I would check for you.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User