Opteron 246: $2100?

[Mephistopheles]

I've just seen this <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030701021703.html" target="_new">unofficial report</A> that says that Opteron 246, probably clocked at an even 2.0Ghz, will cost well into the thousands: $2100, apparently. This is the same price range as the 1.4Ghz Itanium... Isn't that a little too expensive for such a piece of hardware?... The 244 is also having some problems, with prices going as high as $950 because of low supply. So why would anyone go for a $2100 Opteron?... Is it really worth that much cash?...

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[mr_gobbledegook]

I'd be extremely suprised if AMD are going to charge that amount of money for a processor. This will seriously affect the uptake of Opteron in the enterprise sector.

AMD seem to be hiding the fact that it is having problems with it's yield rates. I hope they sort it out soon....unless Opteron is fundamentally flawed which would be a catastrophe.

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[HardWareBoss]

$2100 bucks wow. Looks Like AMD wants to match prices with Intel. Big bucks for a CPU that hits 2 Ghz. Ouch

 

[Mephistopheles]

Big bucks for a CPU that hits 2 Ghz.

That alone is not the problem. Itanium is clocked lower, and has higher prices. Problem is that Opteron's IPC in 32-bit is not fantastic, and 64-bit support for Opteron is somewhat limited at this point. This high a price tag can scare customers away.

Besides, it's only a rumor. It might not be true...

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[HardWareBoss]

One would think that AMD would not want to price themselves out of the ballgame.

 

[pIII_Man]

well if they are having low yeilds...they have no other choice but to charge more...its not like they have much money to spare as it is.

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[POPEGOLDX]

opterons are not meant for US to be buying for gaming or ripping... they are for high end servers.... so 2100 isnt ridicolous for that market...

but that seems more like the price of the 846 actually

 

[Mephistopheles]

I'm not saying it is ridiculous. It's a little less than ridiulous, it's more like very high, not ridiculously high.

but that seems more like the price of the 846 actually

You said it yourself! See, is the 246 really worth all that cash?... I wonder. Besides, if the <b>2</b>46 costs that much, how much will the <b>8</b>46 be, then? $4000-5000? That is the price for a fully-fledged 1.5Ghz Itanium with 6MB cache. Can it compete with that? I think not. Besides, if review sites like this one review a $2100 Opteron for servers and workstations and don't review a $1200 Itanium or $2200 Itanium to compare, then I'll really be pissed off. What would be the point? They'd be advertising AMD, not reviewing a product.

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[Crashman]

Hmm, worse than a Xeon at 32 bit, worse than an Itanic at 64-bit, at least as expensive as either...but it's a cross-compatable solution in some ways!

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[Mephistopheles]

Hmm, worse than a Xeon at 32 bit, worse than an Itanic at 64-bit, at least as expensive as either...but it's a cross-compatable solution in some ways!

*ROFL* Nicely put there, Crashman...

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[HardWareBoss]

Cross - compatable. Lets see 64-bit to 32-bit to 64- bit. Ya that should work. Maybe we can go back to 16- bit? Yeah right.

 

[juin]

that for the 8XX series not the dual or quad.It segmentation of market like Xeon MP and DP price difference is very high but the 1 can be put in 4 way to 8 way.

Opteron 800 will be put again others 8 way systemes only few Xeon MP and Itanium/RISC.The good thing there a price range from 2 way to 8 way but unlike itanium they are limit to 8 way.Itanium are offer up to 64 and 128 coming and from Nec SGI HP but no lower range like 244 series that dont cost much and offer good performance so the only choice you got left from Intel is Xeon DP.

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[Mephistopheles]

I thought this was the price for the 846 too... but <A HREF="http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/10050.htm" target="_new">this site</A> (it's french, juin! you'll feel at home... ) doesn't think so.

Itanium are offer up to 64 and 128 coming and from Nec SGI HP but no lower range like 244 series that dont cost much and offer good performance so the only choice you got left from Intel is Xeon DP.

Yes, that is a very serious limitation for Itanium. If there was a cheaper, 2-way or 4-way Itanium, it would get far better acceptance. At least that bit was a smart move of AMD's.

the only choice you got left from Intel is Xeon DP.

At least the Xeon DPs are being beefed up substantially because of this... The new Xeon 1MB L3 cache looks good. Competition is good!



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