gathering useful info..

I might be blind but i don't see any memory...it is kinda late though...other than that...not bad...cept you know what brand power supply comes with your case...a bad PS could cause a lot of headaches

There is no smell better than fried silicon

what brand (memory)...all sounds pretty good...gonna be pretty damn fast...

There is no smell better than fried silicon

corsair xms memory is a good choice.

The Ultimate Video Processor:
GeForceFX + Radeon + Parhelia = "Radeohelia FX"

Have you checked prices with New Egg? Who makes HD? IMO I would go with 2000 PRO. Uses less resources plus you don't need all that eye candy. Are you buying HSF? Retail CPU from Intel comes with stock HSF.

Do you plan on overclocking?

You might want to read what other buyers have to say about Cyberpower at - <A HREF="http://resellerratings.com./seller2120.html" target="_new">resellerratings.com</A>.

Especially their tech support ...



<b><font color=red>It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - Bill Clinton<b><font color=red>

i wondeer if service pack 4 corrected any of that...

So easy to fry yet tastes so good...
Silicon: The other, other, other white meat

is new egg a good place to buy a complete system?

no, i do not plan on overclocking.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ssmith on 07/23/03 01:59 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

I've never heard (may just be me) of Newegg selling finished, built systems - but as far as "parts" go - they are 1st rate. Check out Pricegrabber.com, find any part - say a CPU - search - will show Newegg and others - then check their reviews (not the part - the seller).

I think you'll find that most of the people here kind of default to Newegg 1st. You'll find others though.



<b><font color=red>It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - Bill Clinton<b><font color=red>

Look at <A HREF="http://www.abspc.com/index.asp" target="_new">ABS</A> and <A HREF="http://www.falcon-nw.com/index.asp" target="_new">Falcon Northwest</A>.
Both may be higher than that other company, both only offer a limited range of pre-built systems w/limited configuration options, and I'd check their reviews too.

I have not done business with either - just have read decent reviews.
BTW, I don't know if the original company is that bad - I was just pointing you to some user reviews/ratings.



<b><font color=red>It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - Bill Clinton<b><font color=red>

is it better to get 2 sticks of 512 of ram or to get

Corsair XMS TwinX 512 MB PC3700 DDR467, Heat Spreaders, Matched Pair

Case: CoolerMaster ATC-210 w/Antec 430w & Front USB (Foggy Blue Front)
Intel CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz (512k Cache, 800 MHz FSB)
Motherboard: Intel D875PBZ with GB-LAN/S.ATA/8xAGP (800MHz FSB)
Case Fan: Clear 80mm Case Fan, Blue LED
RAM (1st stick): Corsair 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Value Select
RAM (2nd stick): Corsair 512 MB PC3200 DDR400, Value Select
Hard Drive 1: Seagate 80 GB, Ultra 100, 7200 RPM
CD-RW / DVD-RW: LiteOn CDRW, 52x24x52 - Beige
DVD Drive Only: LiteOn LTD163 IDE DVD, 16x48x, Software Included - Beige
Floppy: Mitsumi 1.44 MB Floppy Drive - Beige
Video Card: ATI RADEON 9800 Pro 128MB (Dual Head, DVI, OEM)
Monitor: Viewsonic 19" P90f
Sound Card: SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum with External Audigy Drive
Speakers: Klipsch Promedia THX 5.1 Subwoofer speaker system
Keyboard: Eluminx Silver Sapphire Keyboard PS/2
Mouse: Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse
Operating System: Windows XP Home (OEM)
Other Software: Microsoft Works Suite 2003 (OEM)
Network Card: PCI 10 / 100 Network Card (DLink DFE530TX+)

opinions?

Mobo Abit IS7 or Asus P4P800. OS buy XP PRO. or 2000 PRO.

someone else...

envision computer solutions... still have not decided what to do... too many things to choose from... lol

but appreciate all the good advice...

kansas. i had my mind made up on cyberpower, but read some of the reviews. although some of the reviews were good, some were pretty scary sounding...

You can send Private Msg to Crashman he builds Computers.

where can i find a list of all the necessary equipment if i do decide to build this thing?

and maybe the best choices for each item.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ssmith on 07/23/03 11:15 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

and to build it...you will need a philips head screw driver...a flathead...and pliers (to cut the zip ties)

So easy to fry yet tastes so good...
Silicon: The other, other, other white meat

both...

So easy to fry yet tastes so good...
Silicon: The other, other, other white meat

case: aliminum turbo gamer SX 1040 server case 425W
CPU: (800 FSB)Intel P4 3.2
MOBO: ABIT IC7 I875PE 800Mhz FSB DUAL DDR 8X AGP
sony 16X dvd-rom (i would switch to lite on bad sony experience
sony cdrw 52X24X52 EIDE (same as above)
FAN: INTEL certified cpu fan & heatsink (the boxed unit is fine if you are not overclocking)
mitsumi 1.44MB floppy
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100Hard Drive (recomend maxtor or wester digital...make sure it has 8mb cache)
windows Xp pro
sound: creative labs SB audigy-2 platinum 6.1
speakers: Klipsch Promedia THX 5.1 subwoofer system
video: ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB
2x 512 corsair value ram

This is fine...but case is your decision...i would recomend sticking with the major case brands as i have seen alot of just terribly made cases...enermax...antec....cheiftech...i will note that enermax cases although good quality come with very cheep oem powersupplies (not made by enermax)...a good antec....forton...or enermax powersupply or 350-400 watts would be fine...

The only thing that is missing is memory...if you are not overclocking i would go with 2x 512 of corsair value ram...as intel dual channel boards are picky about memory

So easy to fry yet tastes so good...
Silicon: The other, other, other white meat

I think he ment PSU (power supply) - not CPU. Your 3.2 gig P4 800FSB is tops right now.



<b><font color=red>It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. - Bill Clinton<b><font color=red>

To give you an idea, I <i>just</i> built myself a new system. (All parts were ordered from Newegg at that.) It cost me about $1600 in the end, and most of the parts were retail packaging so that I'd have long waranties.

I went to Dell and configured a system as close to my specs as I could get. Even then, the Dell system had similar numbers but it was built with parts of a lower quality and came with less software. The Dell system cost just under $2700.

So I saved over a grand by building my PC.

Yeah, it took a little while and was frustrating at times. (Some of that frustration was my own stupid fault though for trying to rush building it late one night.) To me though it was worth it in the end.

But then you also have to keep in mind that I work on PCs fairly regularly, so I'm used to doing this kind of work. So of course I'll say that it's worth it.

It's really not that hard though anymore. These days cables are pretty hard to even plug in upside-down or backwards, processors just fall right into their sockets, and the Pentium4's stock heat sink installation was the easiest that I've ever done. (Even if the instructions were truly awful.) The only really hard part are all of those darned leads from the front panel to the motherboard. (Like the power switch, the reset switch, the hard drive activity light, etc.) And that's still pretty straight forward. It is just hard because the cables still go onto tiny sets of pins that are awfully close together instead of having a nice socket like hard drives and power cables have. You need really tiny fingers (or tweasers, or really thin pliers) to plug those in quickly. Otherwise it's a lot of blind-aiming hit-or-miss work where you don't know if you've connected the cable to the right pins until you let go of the cable and get your fat fingers out of the way. **ROFL**

(And in my case it was especially annoying because I also had front-panel audio jacks, USB ports, and a Firewire port to run cables to the mobo for as well, and they were all connected on a pin-by-pin basis, where the standard front-panel cables are at least grouped together better than that.)

Still, instructions are pretty easy to follow these days and everything is a lot easier now than it was in the old days. So I'd say that unless you're really nervous you should give it a shot to assemble it yourself if you want. Just be <i>sure</i> to buy an anti-static wrist strap and to wear it at all times (and ground it at all times) so that you don't fry anything. If you do that, you follow the instructions, and you're gentle with the parts when you put the PC together, then not much is likely to go wrong. (Though some times connections will be stiff since all of the parts are new and you'll have to use a bit of forse, but even then just use slow and gentle force.)

And if something <i>does</i> go wrong then we're always here for advice.

"<i>Yeah, if you treat them like equals, it'll only encourage them to think they <b>ARE</b> your equals.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030603" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>

Speaking for those of us with "tiny fingers" (as defined by the fact I can plug in those things quickly) I will also warn you to beware of parallax. Just because they all went in in a minute and look like they're in the right place doesn't mean they are. This will become obvious when nothing happens. Some MoBo's have gotten good about clearly lableing the lead's pins, but others you need a magnifying glass and I often must use a flashlight.

Where's IEEE when they actually might be able to do something useful. I say make a motherboard LED configuration standard and then have the case manufacturers make LEDs whose wires are bundled together. Many cases i see now have USB and audio cables in the front, maybe the mobo's + cases could find a good way to make this standard as well. The next time i buy a case and mobo, if someone had this standard system out, i would gladly pay 15-20 more just to not go through the hassle of "BOOT, check lights, turn off, switch wires, BOOT...".

I'm just your average habitual smiler =D