A re and re done!

Well I'm just putting the finishing touches on a reformat and reinstall on my notebook.
I had been planning on this for a few months now. Norton's been hanging the system on start up and now I'm rid of the evil system resource hog.
DIE NORTON DIE YOU MOFUCKING ASSWIPE

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I tried Trend Micro P.C Cillin for a while it was reported by a Task Monitoring program to be using up to 50 MB of system resources.

I also do use the Norton System Works 2004 Pro edition but I have it installed as a custom install and I only use 2 parts of the whole application.

The Internet cookies cleaner and the Scan Registry option.

Prior to that when I first purchased......(YIKES)......that software I had the full install in including Norton Ghost.

The same Task Monitoring software reported the Full Norton System Works software as using up to 125 MB of system resources!! Yep 125 MB with Ghost booting with the system and resident in the systems tray as well as Default Anti Virus scanning and installed firewall.

Internet Explorer for example uses around 16 MB and that is considered to be allot of resources. In fact people looking to find a virus on their computer are advised to look for any software using more system resources (MB) then IE does.

Anyhow yes Norton always has had a severe bad habit of taking over full control of the computer it resides in. This makes the software almost useless to computer gurus who cherish computer resources like a blond dipped in warm chocolate. It has also severely affected Symantec in sales to the point of death in the public market.

Since Trend Micro only reports around 50 MB fully installed including Mail scan and antivirus and a really good programmable firewall including port rules for anything you can think of that Norton does NOT offer, it is by far the best package I have found to date. XP Pro Based.

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Must admit that Norton is starting to get on my tits. My anti-virus hangs the system when it tries to do a full scan and Norton Personal Firewall will sometimes not display a site. Focking thing.

Might have a gander at both eTrust and Trend that you and SoD recommended. Cheers guys.

<font color=blue>"I'm a man of few words, but most of the ones I said to the players began with F" - Steve Coppell</font color=blue>

Well, I tried Grisoft's AVG free yesterday, had to go to my Dad's office and sort their machine out and I took the opportunity to install it. Despite my warning the guy who works for him to get it sorted, they were running a machine on the web with no AV, no firewall and no spyware detector. Spybot finds 143 items, 26 resident in memory and needing a reboot. PC was running sh!t slow and everything....

AVG found 9 viruses infecting 12 files. Auto-updates itself, easy to use (easier user interface than Norton). Might run with that for a while. Zone Alarm is gonna make a re-appearance on my machine too.

<font color=blue>"I'm a man of few words, but most of the ones I said to the players began with F" - Steve Coppell</font color=blue>

I don't either. My Dad's looking at getting a laptop and going on the 'net, but he's a complete noob so that's gonna be a nightmare.

I too run MS AntiSpyware, Spybot, Ad-Aware and Spyware Blaster. Very rare it finds anything these days, but then if you know what's what, then you can avoid all sorts of sh!t. That PC in the office had been on 3 sites, all legit and above board, but the amount of crap that had come down stealthily, man. Found an IP tracker in the root too. Bastards. For my Dad I think I'm gonna get a wireless router/firewall and ramp up the security big time.

Every PC I build now I install Spybot and Ad-Aware and tell them how to use it and what to look for. I don't want my phone to keep ringing.

<font color=blue>"I'm a man of few words, but most of the ones I said to the players began with F" - Steve Coppell</font color=blue>

Oops.... Forgot.... Do you think it's better running behind a router??? I've got a brand new wireless router / switch, with 5 ports, sitting in the box... It not a g, it's the one before a g.. Would it be smarter to run that, even though I've only the one machine? It won't cost me a penny to change up...

The only reason I haven't ran that way yet, is because I use Roger Wilco to talk to people... I've heard that RW doesn't like a router, but I don't know that for sure....



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Yeah, go with it. Don't matter if it's b because presumably your connection is right next to your machine. Extra security never hurt. Think PF and Jake are pretty up on routers and such, so they could give you some good pointers for tweaking the settings etc.

Try it, you never know, it might just work first off!

<font color=blue>"I'm a man of few words, but most of the ones I said to the players began with F" - Steve Coppell</font color=blue>

It's a Linksys I've got lined up for my Dad. Run them on ADSL lines at work too. Good stuff.

<font color=blue>"I'm a man of few words, but most of the ones I said to the players began with F" - Steve Coppell</font color=blue>

Man, don't put your scotch on the barby! That can have adverse effects on it. OOOOO MYYYY.

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"That was just instinct. Kind of like running from the cops." -- Marquis Weeks, TB, U. of Virginia

PF is the man on routers - I followed his lead ... I use a D-Link 624 wireless ... but just as a hardware firewall ... I don't have anything connected to it yet. It's pretty easy to follow the set-up wizard - the main thing being to turn off the "radio" so your neighbors aren't getting free internet. (Will get the privacy settings down before I "broadcast" - send any signals).

PF made me a great tutorial for my initial set-up ... maybe he can help you out RC ... I'm not that up on the advanced stuff ...



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Sorry Rob ... should have provided a link for the Avast 4.5 download site ... <A HREF="http://www.avast.com/eng/down_home.html" target="_new">avast! Home Edition is now free of charge for HOME users for NON-COMMERCIAL use </A> ...

I've had several people rave about it ...



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Thanks Man!!! I want to use mine in the same manner as you.. The only time I'd have another machine on it would be when I was building.....



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That's the model number, BEFW11S4 Version 2, Wireless Access Point Router with 4 - Port Switch.. I put a link in my earlier post to it's support page. You can get the manual on that page.

I'd sure appreciate the help... I'm worried I won't be able to use Roger Wilco though...



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I'll use what ever works... I talk to my cousin almost every morning.. I also help some people with the voice chat.. I've just used RW for years is all...



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Do you need the server D/L to host??



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Well my re and re has made a huge impact on performance.
I got rid of alot of software I wasn't using. And dumping Norton was the best thing I have ever done.

I still miss my desktop 3.2 P4. I really liked the hyperthreading, the DVD RW drive, the 1 Gig of RAM and the 240G of hard drive space. I sold it when I moved into my new house. Now I use my old notebook. A PIII 1.13 with 512MB RAM and a 20G hard drive with a combo CD-RW DVD drive.
I figure about 4 to 6 months after MS releases Longhorn (I think that's the name for the next version of Windows) I'm going to buy a new high end notebook system. It's gonna be a hard wait.

Does anyone know when the next version of Windows is coming out? Last I heard it was fall of 2005. But I figure it won't be until spring of 2006.

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And we all know what to expect from MS deadlines. Might as well make Q3'06. [sarcasm]I can't wait for Q1'07 for my new high end notebook.[/sarcasm]


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About the only thing a router is good for on a nigh speed connection is...You can configure it to block ICMP requests preventing an outside person from Pinging your computer.

This is handy for gamers that pick up hackers online that take it personally when you shoot their unskilled asses to many times.

Much of the abuse on a game players computers are from snivelling little game losers that set-up a second P.C on a spoofed MAC address and run DDOS attacks or packet flushing attacks called Brute Force against another players IP number, in effect drownning your connection.

Since the second P.C they are running the attack from is not their primary P.C they can have that Brute Force attack run for days in some cases weeks on end.

Using a router with ICMP blocks in place will stop that kind of brute force attack way out on the internet through the routers external IP number such as 192.168.1.1 for a LINKSYS router for example.

Preventing in total any hostile third party from hammering your connection to shreds out of spite!!

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Just a quick update...Avast found 3 virii that norton had let slip through...I was watching as Jake showed you the Avast link and thought I'd give it a try. After a restart Avast did a complete scan before I got to my password page and found those pesky trojans.

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.

Mark Twain

Yes it did do that...I wonder if Norton is a secret Microsoft product...a company that makes us pay to be their beta testers....ha ha

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.

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No it's not try the Avast and the Grisoft too if you want...I've got Avast running at the present...liking it so far...

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.

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Theres a link from Jake at the top of page three of this thread

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.

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PAGE three what page three???

Getting too old?

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Yea, I saved both links...

How many processes you have running with Avast?



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It's on page 2, if you have the Forum set to display 25 threads....



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