have $7500 to buy new comp's

magisimo · Jul 29, 2003

Ok. I have about $7500 to spend on PCs. I want to get the most for my money. I do not need the fastest things out there (these computers are going to be used for business stuff, so no heavy processing power is needed). First off, am I better off buying the parts in bulk and putitng these things together or buying the computers pre-made. I am looking to end up with between 8-12 computers. Most would be the same except for one or two higher performance ones. If I were to buy them pre-made, any suggestions? If I'm going to build them, what processors/motherboards would you guys suggest? What other components? I do not need OS's or monitors. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks a lot guys.

pIII_Man · Jul 29, 2003

750 dollars a computer...what will these be for...office apps or what?

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue and some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz...

Flinx · Jul 29, 2003

Time for a coffee

. The man says business stuff!

How about used stuff at $200-$300 each. No guarantee but if it breaks throw it out and buy another one.
You save lotta $$$ and make ur boss happy?

You will save $$$ building the stuff yourself. On the other hand the boss is likely to blame you for anything that goes wrong. What you going to do about maintenance?
That's why lots of big companies do something like buy Dells (btw, I hate Dells but anyway..). Is lease to buy an option?

The loving are the daring!Edited by Flinx on 07/29/03 03:26 PM.

Flinx · Jul 29, 2003

Since you don't care much about performance why not look at integrated MOBO's video/sound/lan. Mobo's can even be bought with an onboard processor.

The loving are the daring!Edited by Flinx on 07/29/03 03:41 PM.

NateKingCole · Jul 29, 2003

I agree. Buy stuff out of the classifieds. 2 year old used comps, and upgrade where neccesairy. I mean if you pick up a comp for 200$ and have to replace the mobo, cpu and memory, you're still ahead of the game.

Flinx · Jul 29, 2003

ECS K7S5A Pro $45 - Audio Lan (U can even use PC133 SDRAM if you have it from older systems.
XP1800-XP2400 Athlon $75-$100
ATI Radeon 9000 - $80 - Ok, even something at half the price should be fine
Memory - 512MB - Generic or better $90+/=
Mouse/Keyboard - $50 +/-
Floppy Drive - $8
Hard Drive-40GB -$75 +/-
CDROM-LiteOn -$20
Generic Case - -$50 +/- 360 Watt Power Supply
Miscellaneous -$25
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Say Roughly $550

With the $$ you save, if something breaks, throw it out and buy better.

The loving are the daring!Edited by Flinx on 07/29/03 04:41 PM.

pIII_Man · Jul 29, 2003

actually it would be a good idea to buy used...2 years ago i bought a pIII 700 machine for 120bux...the best place to look is for a company that is going out of biz and offering to buy their computers...thats how i bought mine...

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue and some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz...

traviss187 · Jul 30, 2003

check out this link and follow the dirrections http://slickdeals.net/#p3454
this way you get them pre-assembled, from a buisness so you get tech support, and you get a fairly high proformance pc
and you get all the software you might need (legaly)

Edited by traviss187 on 07/29/03 05:14 PM.

pIII_Man · Jul 30, 2003

thats pretty damn good...except a bit too little memory for running xp...but for that price i cannot complain

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue and some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz...

traviss187 · Jul 30, 2003

yeah, you can always go buy some more ram, if you go to slickdeals.net (same webpage) you can get Crucial 512MB PC2100 DDR for $40 after $15MIR
also for anyone who's interested, or if you build the systems
WD 200GB 8MB Cache HD $120 after $120MIR
Maxtor 120GB 8MB Cache Hard Drive $60 after $30MIR
(sorry about all the link, but I just love that site)

flamethrower205 · Jul 30, 2003

Ok, R9000 is overkill beyond beleif. For this type of stuff, a radeon VE is enough. The XP 1800 can be gotten for $56, and an XP 2400 will run you $86 (note: all retails). 40 gig Maxtor can be had for $59.50. And mouse plus keyboard will not cost 50 bucks, farrr less. Generic memory is a bad idea- 512MB DDR PC2100 Apacer costs $73 (good company), while SDR 512 MB Apacer is $62 (that seems high though, you can get SDR for free in compusa sometimes).

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

Flinx · Jul 30, 2003

Flame, excuse my inaccuracies. I was doing some rough conversion from my currency. I'm sure shopping around will get better bargains.

Hey if a Celeron 1300 is good enough, you can get something like ECS P6STMT with built in video/sound/lan for $40 and the CPU around the same. Then you can even use scavanged PC100 memory. (Similarly for a Duron)

The loving are the daring!Edited by Flinx on 07/29/03 07:19 PM.

ytoledano · Jul 30, 2003

But what about the OS? No1 had calculated that into the cost!

I had a much better usertitle but was caught trying to hack me a better one so I got my current title as a punishment

Prof133 · Jul 30, 2003

I gather from his information that OS is already covered.

Logic over all.

Flinx · Jul 30, 2003

Ytol, you can read his last line.. Monitor and O/S included. I would say that is comming from another part of his budget.

The loving are the daring!

Flinx · Jul 30, 2003

I don't think there is a problem mentioning sites. People often do like <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com " target="_new">http://www.newegg.com </A>
And yours <A HREF="http://slickdeals.net/#p3454" target="_new">http://slickdeals.net/#p3454</A>

The loving are the daring!

skligmund · Jul 30, 2003

LOOK AT ME!

OK, is this for a buisnees? Or just for buisness applications? Is this for a governemnt thing? School thing?

If yes to ANY of those, get a Dell. They sell computers for a large discount to students, buisnesses and government offices. I know that all yuou here at THG will say "ewwww dell, gateway, compaq!" (I would never wish a compaq on anybody, that is under the whole cruel and unusuall thing). But look at what it is for, and it comes with an OS, buisness software cheap, and prebuilt ready to rock&roll with a WARRENTY daboot! HOW CAN YOU GO WRONG for a situation like his?

Now, if you just want them for you, build them from scratch, and follow one of these gentlemn's advise.

but don't forget about a monitor, OS, keyboard/mouse, case, power supply, dvd/cd-rom, hard-drive, HSF, CPU, RAM, Motherboard, video card, sound card, (sound and video can be in mobo), and any other software needed.

I too once had money, then I got into computers...
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Flinx · Jul 30, 2003

Skligmund

Well you've added: if this is for a public institution.

We did however mention:

1) Dell/Compaq/et. al. (buy or lease) - please consider maintenance
2) 2nd hand equipment
3) build low end system (you save some money or get a better system for your $$)

We are still waiting for a word form the original poster?

The loving are the daring!

TheMASK · Jul 30, 2003

EDIT: NEVER MIND!!

ur comp suxx! face it and live with it!!Edited by TheMask on 07/31/03 00:58 AM.

pIII_Man · Jul 30, 2003

cofee break! Read the title post again!

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz...

slvr_phoenix · Jul 30, 2003

Okay, maybe this is a little out there for most people, but I say go with something like Dell. Make sure that all of the PCs have the same basic hardware (though maybe the two good ones have more RAM and/or a better processor) for mobo, video, sound, ethernet, etc.

Why? A number of reasons:
1) Being all the same systems you can use something like Norton Ghost to back up their initial hard drive states with drivers and all and use the same backup for all systems should they ever need to be cleaned for some reason. (Often times at businesses if a PC is recycled it needs to be cleaned to remove old user's data.)
2) Being all identical can significantly cut down on maintanance time if something ever goes wrong.
3) Being all identical once the waranty period has ended you can easily swap parts from one to fix another without concern.

Maybe it's a tad silly to most home users, but my sys admin would probably smack me if I didn't suggest anything less for business use because a sys admin's time saved by thinking ahead like this and making his/her job easy is often more valuable than the hardware itself. Think of how much they make an hour and how much money it costs the company for them to try and fix your PCs. :O

Plus it's not a good idea to piss off your sys admin. Think of all of the mean things that they can do to you and your PC and all of the ways in which they can easily frame you. (BOFH anyone?)

"Let's see what Paragraph 84-B has to say about it." - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030724" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>

NateKingCole · Jul 30, 2003

Well I don't know. I mean he hasn't told us what kind of company he works for yet. Hell he could be doing the repairs himself. And it could be a small time outfit of like 25 employees.

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