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starbucksaddict   08-01-2003 at 04:41:39 AM

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HardWareBoss   08-01-2003 at 05:30:51 AM
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I've read that before sounds like it will work. But how much does it cost?

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starbucksaddict   08-01-2003 at 05:34:44 AM
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Apparently carbon black costs next to nothing. Certainly less than metalic silver.

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Crashman   08-01-2003 at 06:31:52 AM
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Make some for yourself, the ingredients are in the report.

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HardWareBoss   08-02-2003 at 05:29:39 AM
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Have you tried it yet?

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Crashman   08-02-2003 at 07:40:42 AM
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No, I don't know where to get the stuff locally and have defaulted on my credit cards.

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bluevil   08-02-2003 at 11:42:13 PM
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Quote :

...<b>dispersed carbon black </b>(a particulate form of industrial carbon used to reinforce rubber) mixed in a soup of <b>ethyl cellulose </b>and <b>polyethylene glycol</b>...


are they so common?

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SonGoku   08-03-2003 at 12:15:02 AM
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so when is this product going to be avalable?

Supporting AMD with your breakable stuff.

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Crashman   08-03-2003 at 12:49:49 AM
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Yes, those should be common chemicals. In fact, I believe carbon black is also used for some inks, as well as tires, etc.

You wouldn't need a licence to buy any of those.

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pIII_Man   08-03-2003 at 01:04:44 AM
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is crarbon black the stuff they use as a non-liquid lubricator? If so i beleive i have some...

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz... :cool:

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Crashman   08-03-2003 at 01:30:33 AM
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No, that's graphite. It's harder than Carbon Black, so it probably wouldn't flatten they way they talk about.

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pIII_Man   08-03-2003 at 01:46:58 AM
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hmmm...ok...

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz... :cool:

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HardWareBoss   08-03-2003 at 04:58:44 AM
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Not the ole defaulted credit card mess.

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HardWareBoss   08-03-2003 at 05:00:59 AM
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Polyethylene Glycol. Don't they use that in Anti Freeze.

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Crashman   08-03-2003 at 07:07:24 AM
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That would be Propylene Glycol. Unless it's one of those chemicals that goes by more than one name.

What's the new "environmentall friendly" stuff made from?

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starbucksaddict   08-03-2003 at 08:32:08 AM
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OK, I decided to look up how much the stuff would cost.

At the ideal recipe of :

Carbon Black 3% @ US$500.00 per Ton
Ethyl Cellulose 1.25% @ US$13.00 per 1 Kg
Polyethylene Glycol Remainder @ US$141.74 per 5 Liters

Approx price per 25ml.... 75 cents


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dhlucke   08-03-2003 at 10:35:37 AM
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They'll sell it for a couple bucks a tube just like they do AS.

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endyen   08-03-2003 at 12:14:42 PM
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I think this stuff would be very messy, and because it's so porous would weldbond the hsf to the cpu.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by endyen on 08/03/03 06:38 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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HardWareBoss   08-03-2003 at 04:08:25 PM
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Looks like a lot of black goop. Can you use it for a driveway sealent?

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slvr_phoenix   08-04-2003 at 06:04:24 PM
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I wonder how this carbon black mixture compares to Arctic Silver's new Ceramique stuff...

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starbucksaddict   08-05-2003 at 12:55:08 AM
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<pre>Thermally Conductance (104 W/m2 C)
conductive solid 0.46 MPa 0.69 MPa 0.92 MPa
Carbon black 18.94 +- 0.60 24.87 +- 1.00 25.74 +- 1.20
Graphite (5 micron) 3.03 +- 0.09 3.67 +- 0.08 4.02 +- 0.12
Graphite (1 micron) 1.52 +- 0.03 1.77 +- 0.04 2.04 +- 0.05
Nickel (3 micron) 1.85 +- 0.05 2.14 +- 0.02 2.84 +- 0.04
Nickel (1 micron) 0.91 +- 0.07 2.03 +- 0.10 2.66 +- 0.03
Diamond (25 micron) 1.15 +- 0.02 1.21 +- 0.09 1.54 +- 0.03
Carbon filaments 1.09 +- 0.03 1.32 +- 0.02 1.51 +- 0.03
(0.1 micron diameter)
Single-walled 13.5 +- 0.2 13.8 +- 0.3 14.1 +- 0.4
carbon nanotubes
</pre><p>The Pen is mightier than the Sword, but the Sword is better if you need back up.

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lhgpoobaa   08-05-2003 at 03:45:51 AM
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Cant really see what al the excitment is about.
When applying the thinnest layer of thermal interface material the difference between the best and the worst is only a degree or two.

Might be useful stuff to put between the core and heatspreader though.

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slvr_phoenix   08-05-2003 at 05:07:15 PM
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That's a cute table (even if it was just taken right from the article not nearly as pretty at that because THGC doesn't support any table format script commands) but I don't see how it has anything to do with a real-world performance comparison between a carbon black mixture and AS Ceramique. In fact I don't even see anything that even closely relates to the theoretical maximum conductivity for AS Ceramique in that table.

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