Acronis TrueImage question

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Following suggestions here I've purchased Acronis TrueImage 8.0 and
I'm generally happy with it, with the MAJOR exception that there's
no true help file, only a semi-searchable PDF user manual. I can't
find how to do what I'm trying to do, so I turn to the group for
assistance.

I have four partitions, C through F. My external USB hard drive is,
naturally, G. I want to do a full backup of each partition to a
separate file on G, not all four partitions to a common file. Is
there some way to automate this process in Acronis and walk away?
Otherwise I pretty much have to be present to start up the next
operation every few minutes.

There must be _some_ way, because the Acronis window shows progress
for "Operation 1 or 1". That implies it must be possible to queue up
multiple operations; but I can't figure out how. Can you point out
the obvious thing I'm missing?

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts were misleading."
-- /The Lady Vanishes/ (1938)

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Stan,
All you have to do is to create the appropriate schedules for each task.
However I suggest you open Acronis "Help" and go to Web Help which will
allow you to join one of the Acronis Forums and you will get a lot more
answers than you can expect here.

Good Luck!

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FWIW - the Acronis forums are a wealth of knowledge about these sort of
things. I automatically backup 2 hard drives (using separate files) to my
USB drive using the Scheduler without a problem.

"Stan Brown" wrote:

> Following suggestions here I've purchased Acronis TrueImage 8.0 and
> I'm generally happy with it, with the MAJOR exception that there's
> no true help file, only a semi-searchable PDF user manual. I can't
> find how to do what I'm trying to do, so I turn to the group for
> assistance.
>
> I have four partitions, C through F. My external USB hard drive is,
> naturally, G. I want to do a full backup of each partition to a
> separate file on G, not all four partitions to a common file. Is
> there some way to automate this process in Acronis and walk away?
> Otherwise I pretty much have to be present to start up the next
> operation every few minutes.
>
> There must be _some_ way, because the Acronis window shows progress
> for "Operation 1 or 1". That implies it must be possible to queue up
> multiple operations; but I can't figure out how. Can you point out
> the obvious thing I'm missing?
>
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> "My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts were misleading."
> -- /The Lady Vanishes/ (1938)
>

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"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:n6apg1t6ctd3oe08uofak6ve9064053s2f@4ax.com...
> Following suggestions here I've purchased Acronis TrueImage 8.0 and
> I'm generally happy with it, with the MAJOR exception that there's
> no true help file, only a semi-searchable PDF user manual. I can't
> find how to do what I'm trying to do, so I turn to the group for
> assistance.
>
> I have four partitions, C through F. My external USB hard drive is,
> naturally, G. I want to do a full backup of each partition to a
> separate file on G, not all four partitions to a common file. Is
> there some way to automate this process in Acronis and walk away?
> Otherwise I pretty much have to be present to start up the next
> operation every few minutes.
>
> There must be _some_ way, because the Acronis window shows progress
> for "Operation 1 or 1". That implies it must be possible to queue up
> multiple operations; but I can't figure out how. Can you point out
> the obvious thing I'm missing?
>
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> "My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts were misleading."
> -- /The Lady Vanishes/ (1938)


Stan:
I may be misinterpreting what you want to accomplish since I don't really
know what you mean when you indicate you want "to automate this process in
Acronis and walk away".

If I understand you correctly, you have a single internal HD containing four
partitions and you simply want to back up all the data on those four
partitions to your USBEHD. If I have this right...

Acronis True Image has a disk-to-disk cloning function so that you could
clone the entire contents (the four partitions) of your internal HD to your
USBEHD. Merely access that function by double-clicking on the "Disk Clone"
icon and follow the subsequent screen prompts. After the cloning operation,
your USBEHD will contain the contents of those four partitions. (The fact
that your EHD had been assigned the G: drive letter when you booted up with
the EHD connected is irrelevant in this situation). I know you've stated "I
pretty much have to be present to start up the next operation every few
minutes", but I don't understand your reference to the "next operation every
few minutes", nor your subsequent reference to "(Acronis) multiple
operations".

But as I've said, perhaps I've misunderstood your objective. Sorry if I
have.
Anna

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Edward W. Thompson Wrote:
> "MoiMeme" <vermeulenp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> True Image allows the imaging of entire disks, you cannot create image
> of
> individual partitions as you appear to want. I believe you can do what
> you
> want with Ghost 9 but am not positive on this.

Hello.
It's fully uncorrect!
True Image could easily create image of individual partitions as well
as of the whole HDD.
For that you need just chose in True Image windows "Create Image", then
you'll see another windows where you could chose partition.
So, if you'll choese all partitions, ATI create 1 image file, but you
could restore from it any partition you want. Becuase it creates
separated images and just keep them in 1 file.
I'm sure you'll be ably to do want you want using True Image!


--
Jucy
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:09:15 -0400, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

[how to automate the tasks I'm now doing]

Thanks to all who responded.

The best advice seems to be to post to Acronis' Web-based forum. I
hate Web-based forums, but if that's where the help is, that's what
I'll do. :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts were misleading."
-- /The Lady Vanishes/ (1938)

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Perhaps that is something system unique to your set up. Here it
works correctly, restoring one partition without touching other
partitions.

--

LEO

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
But in practice there is.






"sammy" <s.brako@kpn.com> wrote in message
news:01c5a95b$397febd0$798b1dac@UT9910201808...
> Edward W. Thompson Wrote:
>> "MoiMeme" <vermeulenp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> True Image allows the imaging of entire disks, you cannot
>> create image
>> of individual partitions ..........."
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> May be true by Restorations but not backups.
> I made an image of my C partition and when I tried restoring it
> at a later
> time, True Image did a good job but wiped out my D partition.
> So in effect,
> it dumped the whole backup on to the drive instead of just on
> the C:
> partition. I explicitely chose to restore to C: ( the available
> space at
> the time. My data was on the D
> So it will back up one partition or more allright but you might
> lose the
> other partitions during restoration. Note that I use only one
> hard drive
> with the partitions C: and D:
>
>

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Hello Stan,

I think you should try to use the schedule options in Acronis True
Image, you can schedule tasks to create images of your partitions and
go for walk :-)

--
Mellissa


--
Mellissa
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"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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> As the original questioner, I don't know whether this is a
> misunderstanding or normal Usenet thread drift.
>
> I was not talking about disk cloning, I was talking about
> per-partition backup. If you're trying to answer my question, disk
> cloning is not relevant to me. If you've moved n to a different
> point, that's fine of course.
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> "What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?"
> "My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters."
> "The waters? What waters? We're in the desert."


> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:33:43 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>>To the best of my knowledge Acronis True Image (unlike Symantec's Norton
>>Ghost) does not have the capability of *directly* cloning an individual
>>partition of a multi-partitioned drive to another drive. AFAIK, in ATI you
>>can directly clone a multi-partitioned HD to another drive which will, of
>>course, include the entire contents of the source disk including *all* the
>>partitions on that disk; however, you cannot select individual partitions
>>from the source disk to *directly* clone to the destination disk.


Stan:
Your original posting read as follows...
"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:n6apg1t6ctd3oe08uofak6ve9064053s2f@4ax.com...
> Following suggestions here I've purchased Acronis TrueImage 8.0 and
> I'm generally happy with it, with the MAJOR exception that there's
> no true help file, only a semi-searchable PDF user manual. I can't
> find how to do what I'm trying to do, so I turn to the group for
> assistance.
>
> I have four partitions, C through F. My external USB hard drive is,
> naturally, G. I want to do a full backup of each partition to a
> separate file on G, not all four partitions to a common file. Is
> there some way to automate this process in Acronis and walk away?
> Otherwise I pretty much have to be present to start up the next
> operation every few minutes.
>
> There must be _some_ way, because the Acronis window shows progress
> for "Operation 1 or 1". That implies it must be possible to queue up
> multiple operations; but I can't figure out how. Can you point out
> the obvious thing I'm missing?
>
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com/"


I took it from your query that your ultimate objective was (is) to create a
backup of your internal multi-partitioned HD to your USB external hard
drive. So I responded as follows...

"Stan:
I may be misinterpreting what you want to accomplish since I don't really
know what you mean when you indicate you want "to automate this process in
Acronis and walk away".

If I understand you correctly, you have a single internal HD containing four
partitions and you simply want to back up all the data on those four
partitions to your USBEHD. If I have this right...

Acronis True Image has a disk-to-disk cloning function so that you could
clone the entire contents (the four partitions) of your internal HD to your
USBEHD. Merely access that function by double-clicking on the "Disk Clone"
icon and follow the subsequent screen prompts. After the cloning operation,
your USBEHD will contain the contents of those four partitions. (The fact
that your EHD had been assigned the G: drive letter when you booted up with
the EHD connected is irrelevant in this situation). I know you've stated "I
pretty much have to be present to start up the next operation every few
minutes", but I don't understand your reference to the "next operation every
few minutes", nor your subsequent reference to "(Acronis) multiple
operations".

But as I've said, perhaps I've misunderstood your objective. Sorry if I
have.
Anna"

Assuming I did correctly understand your objective, it seemed to me that you
would be best served by employing the ATI program to clone the entire
contents of your internal drive to the external one. In so doing, you would
be effectively backing up the four partitions of your internal HD. Does this
not meet your objective of backing up your partitions?

When you quoted my later comment above, the one beginning with "To the best
of my knowledge Acronis True Image (unlike Symantec's Norton Ghost) does not
have the capability of *directly* cloning an individual partition of a
multi-partitioned drive to another drive.", I was responding to a "Leo", who
(in this thread) inferred (actually he wasn't entirely clear about this)
that ATI could *directly* clone individual partitions.

Anyway, as I previously informed you in response to another of your postings
re this thread (the one in which you indicated you planned to post your
query to the "'Acronis' Web-based forum" ), if I have misunderstood what
you're trying to accomplish, you can safely ignore my comments.
Anna

P.S.
Oh, BTW, you neglected to quote Rick's final line (the really classic one of
that piece) from Casablanca...
"I was misinformed."

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:19:27 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:

>would be best served by employing the ATI program to clone the entire
>contents of your internal drive to the external one. In so doing, you would
>be effectively backing up the four partitions of your internal HD. Does this
>not meet your objective of backing up your partitions?

No, because one of the partitions is data that never change:
dictionaries and encyclopedias. I have no desire to back them up
because I installed them from CDs and any backup would simply repeat
copies of those CDs.

>Oh, BTW, you neglected to quote Rick's final line (the really classic one of
>that piece) from Casablanca...
>"I was misinformed."

Thanks. I recently upgraded from Agent 2.0 to 3.0. I'm going to
blame the upgrade for losing that line from my signature, because
the alternative is that it's been missing all along and I never
noticed. :-)

Seriously, whatever the cause I've added it now and it should appear
on this article. (Unfortunately Agent doesn't let us see the
signature as part of the article during composition.)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?"
"My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters."
"The waters? What waters? We're in the desert."
"I was misinformed."