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teR0   08-07-2003 at 11:30:53 AM

What CPU is better:
1. Athlon XP 2800+ (non Barton)
2. Athlon XP 2800+ Barton core

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hatimh   08-07-2003 at 12:10:15 PM
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Barton obviously.

It has 512k L2 cache which make is run faster than the non-barton.

It will also run cooler coz the die size is bigger and will make more contact withe heatsink.



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jmecor   08-07-2003 at 03:13:09 PM
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But rememeber that the thoroughbred 2800+ has higher clock speed than the barton. But that's all about it. Barton still is better.

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ChipDeath   08-07-2003 at 03:17:51 PM
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.. but the Barton is running on a higher FSB - that and the extra cache cancel out the clockspeed advantage, more or less.. if it didn't, surely that would mean AMDs PR rating is not accurate... :eek: :wink:

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jmecor   08-07-2003 at 03:27:56 PM
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PR Rating has destroyed their chances, but they need to prove something in A64 with their -FX brand naming.

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pIII_Man   08-07-2003 at 08:16:42 PM
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i disagree with you all and say that the t-bred 2800 should be bought on sight...immagine how far that would ovrclock for a tbred...you could prolly get 2.5ghz out of that gem...

Also in many aplications higher clock speed helps more than more cache...so i say if you can get it the tbred would be nice...

If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:

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hatimh   08-07-2003 at 08:48:09 PM
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But you can get even the same with a Barton and higher, look at Scotchen's one.

At the same clock speeds say 2.5 GHz for argument's sake, Barton will run cooler and outperform the TBred coz of the extra cache.

I'm not relly all that knowledgable compared to some of you guys out there but from reading these forums over the past months, what I have mentioned holds true.

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pIII_Man   08-07-2003 at 10:15:05 PM
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an air cooled 2.6 barton is a 1 in a million...

Probably this tbred will go as far as a good barton...and probably at the same speeds the barton would win...but immagine having a 2.5ghz tbred...can you say BRAGGING RIGHTS!

At stock speeds however...the tbred should be faster in most apps...

If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:

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hatimh   08-07-2003 at 11:14:46 PM
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In conclusion are you saying, at stock speed, go for TBred, if OCing go for Barton?

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pIII_Man   08-07-2003 at 11:18:07 PM
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Exactly...

Good luck finding a 2800+ tbred!

If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:

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Spitfire_x86   08-08-2003 at 01:19:08 AM
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.. but the Barton is running on a higher FSB


Both Barton and T-bred 2800+ has 333 MHz FSB

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pIII_Man   08-08-2003 at 01:40:29 AM
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yup...

If you look at the thg benchies...the 2800 tbred can waste the 3000+ barton with a 166mhz bus speed

If i put my k6 in a Ferrari it would be faster than your your pentium 4 or Athlon XP :tongue:

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HardWareBoss   08-08-2003 at 05:02:22 AM
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The heck with T-bird buy the Cobra.

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HardWareBoss   08-08-2003 at 05:04:22 AM
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Gee just when I wanted to buy a 2800+ tbird and there all gone nuts!!!!!!!

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ChipDeath   08-08-2003 at 11:38:47 AM
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Yup... I realised that at some point yesterday... :redface: <font color=red>doh!</font color=red>

for some bizzarre reason I got it into my head that they didn't make any 166FSB Tbreds. just a moment of madness...

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