No, the 9500 PRO may not ne the sharpest knife in the drawer but it's not limp noodle either. Here at Tom's they ran 3dmark with a P4 2.2, 256 megs of RAM, and the 9500 PRO and scored 1111. That's not even 400 points behind my BRAND NEW 2.8 p4 w/800 fsb along with a gig of ram and a 9500 PRO. Something ain't right. Btw, I tried to d-load the latest bios and the Asus servers are down atm.