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2.2ghz A64 preview?

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August 10, 2003 6:12:05 PM

Heres an opteron overclocked to 2.2ghz to give an indication of the future A64 performance. JFYI.

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August 10, 2003 6:45:05 PM

I find these results impressive. A 2.2GHz Opteron (=A64 FX) can easily beat a Pentium IV 3.2C. In fact, I expect better performance out of A64 when it is officialy released, maybe I'm just extremely optimistic but that's just me :)  I am not sure though whether AMD will be able to "trash Prescott" but now I am sure that at least the A64 won't be a flop as many have been saying during the last few months. Also, one more interesting thing to see is the prices of A64 & Prescott, since I believe that this matters more than which of the two is the fastest.
August 10, 2003 6:50:41 PM

Did you notice the setups for the computers. The fact that it the opteron used 4 512mb of ram I with would make a difference in some test. They don't say how many 256mb they used for the axp or the p4. So they are comparing 2gb of ram to maybe 512mb. Don't get me wrong, I find that the test is great and I hope that a64 will be a great system(cause I am looking to upgrade in 5 or 6 months). Also they don't go into really good detail on all the setting. Coming from an amd site I really dont' trust all the info for the p4.

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August 10, 2003 7:46:57 PM

The memory amount wont matter unless a program needs that much. In most cases, over 512mb will lower performance. I see your point and its just to give a rough idea of what to expect. Its the next best thing we have to a review of the new AMD cpu's.

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6850469 " target="_new"> MY RIG </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1065087" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
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August 10, 2003 8:07:29 PM

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Coming from an amd site I really dont' trust all the info for the p4.

This is true but the results of the Athlon XP are accurate though, showing a significant lag in performance between AXP 3200+ and P4 3.2. Anyway, the way I see it only one thing is for sure. It's gonna be a close fight, and not a clear Prescott win as many thought.
August 10, 2003 8:14:21 PM

athlon XP did look like a dog didnt it

performance wise it looked very impressive, but the ecc memory business is very annoying
August 10, 2003 8:50:49 PM

Just to make it clear, I am not trying disregard the information. I don't like to see reviews that don't give enought infomation of the setting to let me know how the settings are. Nor did they give enough infomation for the opteron. So far as I know they both could be mildly configured or one is setup better then the other. But that aside I really hope that it does really well and that the price is right. I would buy that thing in a heart beat, I also like the fact that it looks like it is going to be running cooler then the Intel chip. I would like to see a reveiw that is more detailed then that.

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August 10, 2003 10:59:11 PM

I could be wrong here but I think that only the 940pin version of A64 will need ECC memory. The 939pin version which will be introduced in Q1 2004 will be able to accept normal DDR400 memory.
August 10, 2003 11:23:33 PM

i got the impression that 939 would need ecc, but i could also be wrong, 7xx pin model definately can use normal ddr 400.
August 10, 2003 11:36:21 PM

According to Inquirer, 940 can accept 4 ECC DIMM's or 2 non-ECC DIMM's, while the 939 is designed specially for non-ECC and can take 4 non-ECC.
August 11, 2003 1:10:28 AM

The results look pretty nice. But it's NOTHING, if Prescott is promising about 20% more IPC (just a guess). Without Prescott and no 3.4GHZ Netburst, yes, Athlon 64 stands a big chance. But only if Prescott ain't out soon.

AMD has the chance, Intel is recharging their guns, they can attack them while they're down. They need that 2.4GHZ Athlon 64.

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August 11, 2003 1:25:49 AM

20% is way over optimistic i think, remember 800mhz bus is already out, and pipeline has been further lengthened, and pni wont make any difference for ages until it is actually used. leaving only hyperthreading2 and 1mb cache and minor stuff, which i doubt could possibly add up to 20% increase, 20% maximum 5-10% likely.

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August 11, 2003 4:46:20 AM

That's exactly what I was thinking. Until now, performance of Prescott is based only on speculations, while we have seen some proof of A64's performance. If all that info about Prescott is ture, then it will probably be fastest than the A64 but that's a big if.
August 11, 2003 5:04:10 AM

Ok, around 20%, no doubt. Especially if SSE3 is of any importance as SSE2. If adopted, it will only increase once more the NetBurst architecture's flexibility.
But definitely not 5-10%, not when cache helps the P4 a lot (in rare cases, up to 40-50%), and a 200MHZ speed bump.
I definitely can predict a 10-15% increase. Should not be another damn crappy Canterwood upgrade, damn inefficient chipset.

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August 11, 2003 6:56:19 AM

While I do notice that Q3A, Commache 4 and UT2003 were included (great gaming suite), I can't help but wonder why tests such as SuperPi and Phase2 were included, but no 3dsmax rendering times or DiVX encoding times. Surely these are as critical to workstation performance as Sciencemark.

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