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Anonymous
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August 26, 2005 11:57:06 AM

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Hi:

I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
(e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.

How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?

Thank you

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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 12:02:06 PM

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Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
It must be installed on an internal drive.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User


"DaleB" wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
>
> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
>
> Thank you
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 3:15:05 PM

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What about a Thumb Drive (Memory Stick) like those from SanDisk ?
Can you install XP on that and then boot from it ?

"DaleB" wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
>
> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
>
> Thank you
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 3:16:03 PM

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Why ?
See my other question regarding Thumd Drives.
Thanx !

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
> It must be installed on an internal drive.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>
> "DaleB" wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
> > and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
> > (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
> > so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
> >
> > How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
> > laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
> >
> > Thank you
August 26, 2005 3:59:59 PM

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> "DaleB" wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
>> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
>> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
>> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
>>
>> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
>> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
>>
>> Thank you


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:BC1A4277-90C1-40A6-951A-4648547FE8FC@microsoft.com...
> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
> It must be installed on an internal drive.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User


Just to "flesh-out" Carey's comment a bit...

Carey is correct in that XP cannot be *directly* installed on an external
drive, however, using a disk imaging program, e.g., Norton Ghost or Acronis
True Image, that operating system can be "cloned" from one's internal HD to
the external one. In the case of a USB/Firewire external HD as the recipient
of the clone, that device will *not* be bootable, but its contents could
later be cloned back to the internal drive should the need arise for
restoration purposes.
Anna
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 4:00:00 PM

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Thanx !
See my other comment.
Can you install XO on, and then boot from a USB thumb drive ?

"Anna" wrote:

>
> > "DaleB" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
> >> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
> >> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
> >> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
> >>
> >> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
> >> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
> >>
> >> Thank you
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:BC1A4277-90C1-40A6-951A-4648547FE8FC@microsoft.com...
> > Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
> > It must be installed on an internal drive.
> >
> > --
> > Carey Frisch
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>
> Just to "flesh-out" Carey's comment a bit...
>
> Carey is correct in that XP cannot be *directly* installed on an external
> drive, however, using a disk imaging program, e.g., Norton Ghost or Acronis
> True Image, that operating system can be "cloned" from one's internal HD to
> the external one. In the case of a USB/Firewire external HD as the recipient
> of the clone, that device will *not* be bootable, but its contents could
> later be cloned back to the internal drive should the need arise for
> restoration purposes.
> Anna
>
>
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 4:08:48 PM

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Good point - just one more time can I mention that it's not
external that is the criteria - but removable. There has been
SCSI and now SATA-IO "External" drives that can support
XP installation & booting.

"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:emCu4clqFHA.908@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>> "DaleB" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
>>> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
>>> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
>>> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
>>>
>>> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
>>> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:BC1A4277-90C1-40A6-951A-4648547FE8FC@microsoft.com...
>> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
>> It must be installed on an internal drive.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>
> Just to "flesh-out" Carey's comment a bit...
>
> Carey is correct in that XP cannot be *directly* installed on an external
> drive, however, using a disk imaging program, e.g., Norton Ghost or
> Acronis True Image, that operating system can be "cloned" from one's
> internal HD to the external one. In the case of a USB/Firewire external HD
> as the recipient of the clone, that device will *not* be bootable, but its
> contents could later be cloned back to the internal drive should the need
> arise for restoration purposes.
> Anna
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 4:08:49 PM

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Hi:
Thanx...
See my other comment regarding Thumb Drives.
Can you boot from these ?

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> Good point - just one more time can I mention that it's not
> external that is the criteria - but removable. There has been
> SCSI and now SATA-IO "External" drives that can support
> XP installation & booting.
>
> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
> news:emCu4clqFHA.908@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >
> >> "DaleB" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi:
> >>>
> >>> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
> >>> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
> >>> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
> >>> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
> >>>
> >>> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
> >>> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >
> >
> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:BC1A4277-90C1-40A6-951A-4648547FE8FC@microsoft.com...
> >> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
> >> It must be installed on an internal drive.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carey Frisch
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows XP - Shell/User
> >
> >
> > Just to "flesh-out" Carey's comment a bit...
> >
> > Carey is correct in that XP cannot be *directly* installed on an external
> > drive, however, using a disk imaging program, e.g., Norton Ghost or
> > Acronis True Image, that operating system can be "cloned" from one's
> > internal HD to the external one. In the case of a USB/Firewire external HD
> > as the recipient of the clone, that device will *not* be bootable, but its
> > contents could later be cloned back to the internal drive should the need
> > arise for restoration purposes.
> > Anna
> >
>
>
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 6:22:03 PM

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As with anything, there are always possibilities - but no guarantees.
Read the following from O'Reily:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/5735


"DaleB" <DaleB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B551B037-5162-41E8-AA63-3410F14238FA@microsoft.com...
> Why ?
> See my other question regarding Thumd Drives.
> Thanx !
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
>> It must be installed on an internal drive.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "DaleB" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi:
>> >
>> > I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
>> > and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
>> > (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
>> > so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
>> >
>> > How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
>> > laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
>> >
>> > Thank you
August 26, 2005 7:20:35 PM

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>>> "DaleB" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi:
>>>>
>>>> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
>>>> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
>>>> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
>>>> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
>>>>
>>>> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
>>>> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you


>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:BC1A4277-90C1-40A6-951A-4648547FE8FC@microsoft.com...
>>> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
>>> It must be installed on an internal drive.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carey Frisch
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows XP - Shell/User


> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
> news:emCu4clqFHA.908@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Just to "flesh-out" Carey's comment a bit...
>>
>> Carey is correct in that XP cannot be *directly* installed on an external
>> drive, however, using a disk imaging program, e.g., Norton Ghost or
>> Acronis True Image, that operating system can be "cloned" from one's
>> internal HD to the external one. In the case of a USB/Firewire external
>> HD as the recipient of the clone, that device will *not* be bootable, but
>> its contents could later be cloned back to the internal drive should the
>> need arise for restoration purposes.
>> Anna


"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:eECrxhlqFHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Good point - just one more time can I mention that it's not
> external that is the criteria - but removable. There has been
> SCSI and now SATA-IO "External" drives that can support
> XP installation & booting.


Mr. McCarty:
And a good point by you with respect to SATA external drives that can be
connected to a motherboard's *external* SATA connector (eSATA connector on
the newer motherboards). Some of these devices also have USB capability as
well. It may not be too long before these devices actually supplant the USB
external hard drives so in use today.

But (as I believe I mentioned to you in a previous posting re this subject),
a "removable" drive, i.e., a hard drive contained in a removable tray within
a mobile rack that's affixed to the computer, is, in *all* respects, an
"internal" drive that has the *full" capability of a normal internal hard
drive. So although it's *removable*, it can contain a bootable XP operating
system with no problem of any kind.
Anna
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 26, 2005 7:41:02 PM

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Anna, I'll be sure to make that notation on any future postings about
Removable/External Boot devices. Thanks
"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
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>
>>>> "DaleB" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
>>>>> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
>>>>> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card
>>>>> (thumb-drive))
>>>>> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> How would I be able to determine this (in advance) so that I know the
>>>>> laptop's capabilities/limitations prior to buying it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>
>
>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BC1A4277-90C1-40A6-951A-4648547FE8FC@microsoft.com...
>>>> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
>>>> It must be installed on an internal drive.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carey Frisch
>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>
>> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
>> news:emCu4clqFHA.908@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Just to "flesh-out" Carey's comment a bit...
>>>
>>> Carey is correct in that XP cannot be *directly* installed on an
>>> external drive, however, using a disk imaging program, e.g., Norton
>>> Ghost or Acronis True Image, that operating system can be "cloned" from
>>> one's internal HD to the external one. In the case of a USB/Firewire
>>> external HD as the recipient of the clone, that device will *not* be
>>> bootable, but its contents could later be cloned back to the internal
>>> drive should the need arise for restoration purposes.
>>> Anna
>
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:eECrxhlqFHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Good point - just one more time can I mention that it's not
>> external that is the criteria - but removable. There has been
>> SCSI and now SATA-IO "External" drives that can support
>> XP installation & booting.
>
>
> Mr. McCarty:
> And a good point by you with respect to SATA external drives that can be
> connected to a motherboard's *external* SATA connector (eSATA connector on
> the newer motherboards). Some of these devices also have USB capability as
> well. It may not be too long before these devices actually supplant the
> USB external hard drives so in use today.
>
> But (as I believe I mentioned to you in a previous posting re this
> subject), a "removable" drive, i.e., a hard drive contained in a removable
> tray within a mobile rack that's affixed to the computer, is, in *all*
> respects, an "internal" drive that has the *full" capability of a normal
> internal hard drive. So although it's *removable*, it can contain a
> bootable XP operating system with no problem of any kind.
> Anna
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 27, 2005 5:04:19 AM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:59:59 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:

>Carey is correct in that XP cannot be *directly* installed on an external
>drive, however, using a disk imaging program, e.g., Norton Ghost or Acronis
>True Image, that operating system can be "cloned" from one's internal HD to
>the external one. In the case of a USB/Firewire external HD as the recipient
>of the clone, that device will *not* be bootable, but its contents could
>later be cloned back to the internal drive should the need arise for
>restoration purposes.

Also of course if the computer supports booting from the CD/DVD
drive, then if Windows is written to a bootable DVD that's another
option.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?"
"My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters."
"The waters? What waters? We're in the desert."
"I was misinformed."
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
August 28, 2005 2:57:08 AM

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=?Utf-8?B?RGFsZUI=?= wrote:
>
> I am currently looking at what laptops are available for purchase
> and would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
> (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
> so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk.

NO. Windows cannot be installed on an external drive.




--
http://www.bootdisk.com/
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
September 11, 2005 1:45:02 PM

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Dear Carey: I'm starting to become a little confused with your replies. In
your response to JohnnyLingo dated 21Jun2005 headed "USB Jump Drive" (4
posts), he asked the same question, and you indicated that it is possible,
keeping in mind three elements (I won't repeat them here, pls refer to your
response there). What is the correct response, please? Maybe I should take
note only of Anna's comments on this matter. Would appreciate your
clarification of this matter.
--
CEC4


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Windows XP cannot be installed on an external drive.
> It must be installed on an internal drive.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>
> "DaleB" wrote:

> > ".... would like to know if Windows can be installed on an external
> > (e.g., USB, FireWire) device (e.g., CD, DVD, memory card (thumb-drive))
> > so that it boots from there, not the internal Hard Disk."
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