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Anonymous
August 27, 2005 4:18:29 PM

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Hi

Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array formatted
with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the system reboots and
gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works fine.

tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of the sata
driver and that hasn't helped either.

motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
AMD 64 3000
Maxtor 120GB hd x2

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August 27, 2005 4:37:29 PM

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This is a clean install?
i.e. you deleted and created partitions etc using wincd
You installed sata drivers from floppy during the installation process?

You installed into a 'bare' system?
i.e. minimum hw

Your bios boot order is set correctly?

"Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
news:u$XlNkvqFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array
formatted
> with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the system reboots and
> gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works fine.
>
> tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of the
sata
> driver and that hasn't helped either.
>
> motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
> AMD 64 3000
> Maxtor 120GB hd x2
>
>
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 4:47:55 PM

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clean install in some ways yes

created partitions using a seperate hard drive so that can format it with
32k cluster size and then took that dive out
(this problem doesn't appear when creating the paritions and formatting
within the installation but then i'm stuck with a 4k cluster size and get
the same error if using partition magic to change the cluster size"

installed sata drives from floppy fine

bios order set correctly and min hw
"DL" <dl@spoofmail> wrote in message
news:%23YfP1uvqFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> This is a clean install?
> i.e. you deleted and created partitions etc using wincd
> You installed sata drivers from floppy during the installation process?
>
> You installed into a 'bare' system?
> i.e. minimum hw
>
> Your bios boot order is set correctly?
>
> "Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:u$XlNkvqFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array
> formatted
>> with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the system reboots
>> and
>> gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works fine.
>>
>> tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of the
> sata
>> driver and that hasn't helped either.
>>
>> motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
>> AMD 64 3000
>> Maxtor 120GB hd x2
>>
>>
>
>
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Anonymous
August 27, 2005 4:47:56 PM

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Nick,
If I may ask, Why do you want the cluster size at 32K ?
--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
-----

Nick Vidamour wrote:
> clean install in some ways yes
>
> created partitions using a seperate hard drive so that can format it
> with 32k cluster size and then took that dive out
> (this problem doesn't appear when creating the paritions and
> formatting within the installation but then i'm stuck with a 4k
> cluster size and get the same error if using partition magic to
> change the cluster size"
>
> installed sata drives from floppy fine
>
> bios order set correctly and min hw
> "DL" <dl@spoofmail> wrote in message
> news:%23YfP1uvqFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> This is a clean install?
>> i.e. you deleted and created partitions etc using wincd
>> You installed sata drivers from floppy during the installation
>> process?
>>
>> You installed into a 'bare' system?
>> i.e. minimum hw
>>
>> Your bios boot order is set correctly?
>>
>> "Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$XlNkvqFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array
>>> formatted with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the
>>> system reboots and
>>> gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of
>>> the sata driver and that hasn't helped either.
>>>
>>> motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
>>> AMD 64 3000
>>> Maxtor 120GB hd x2
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 5:06:22 PM

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i might just simply ignore the 32k cluster altogether as i'm only using the
system as a general user and with some tests i've performed cannot visially
see a difference in performance between cluster sizes.

as a side note to this though is, what is the best set up for stripe and
cluster size

should they be the same e/g 32/32 or should cluster be larger or smaller
"Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
news:%23JYEt0vqFHA.2244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> clean install in some ways yes
>
> created partitions using a seperate hard drive so that can format it with
> 32k cluster size and then took that dive out
> (this problem doesn't appear when creating the paritions and formatting
> within the installation but then i'm stuck with a 4k cluster size and get
> the same error if using partition magic to change the cluster size"
>
> installed sata drives from floppy fine
>
> bios order set correctly and min hw
> "DL" <dl@spoofmail> wrote in message
> news:%23YfP1uvqFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> This is a clean install?
>> i.e. you deleted and created partitions etc using wincd
>> You installed sata drivers from floppy during the installation process?
>>
>> You installed into a 'bare' system?
>> i.e. minimum hw
>>
>> Your bios boot order is set correctly?
>>
>> "Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$XlNkvqFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array
>> formatted
>>> with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the system reboots
>>> and
>>> gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works fine.
>>>
>>> tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of the
>> sata
>>> driver and that hasn't helped either.
>>>
>>> motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
>>> AMD 64 3000
>>> Maxtor 120GB hd x2
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 5:19:12 PM

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think its a case of reading what you think is right

basically most people say that a larger cluster size increase speed due to
less head movement, but visually i can't see a difference.

also using a raid array they says it best to have either a matching or 1/2
size cluster.

don't know which is correct tbh
"Maurice N ~ MVP" <maurice@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uWXksAwqFHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Nick,
If I may ask, Why do you want the cluster size at 32K ?
--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
-----

Nick Vidamour wrote:
> clean install in some ways yes
>
> created partitions using a seperate hard drive so that can format it
> with 32k cluster size and then took that dive out
> (this problem doesn't appear when creating the paritions and
> formatting within the installation but then i'm stuck with a 4k
> cluster size and get the same error if using partition magic to
> change the cluster size"
>
> installed sata drives from floppy fine
>
> bios order set correctly and min hw
> "DL" <dl@spoofmail> wrote in message
> news:%23YfP1uvqFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> This is a clean install?
>> i.e. you deleted and created partitions etc using wincd
>> You installed sata drivers from floppy during the installation
>> process?
>>
>> You installed into a 'bare' system?
>> i.e. minimum hw
>>
>> Your bios boot order is set correctly?
>>
>> "Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$XlNkvqFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array
>>> formatted with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the
>>> system reboots and
>>> gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of
>>> the sata driver and that hasn't helped either.
>>>
>>> motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
>>> AMD 64 3000
>>> Maxtor 120GB hd x2
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 5:19:13 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

For efficiency of access / reads, etc, you run Disk Defragmenter or an add-on utility like Perfect Disk to keep data files physically contiguous. So forget the larger cluster size on that topic. In addition, when you have lots of very small files, a 32K cluster size is going to be very wasteful.

I think you need to start all over and install XP fresh, and let it create the partition.

--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
-----

Nick Vidamour wrote:
> think its a case of reading what you think is right
>
> basically most people say that a larger cluster size increase speed
> due to less head movement, but visually i can't see a difference.
>
> also using a raid array they says it best to have either a matching
> or 1/2 size cluster.
>
> don't know which is correct tbh
> "Maurice N ~ MVP" <maurice@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uWXksAwqFHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Nick,
> If I may ask, Why do you want the cluster size at 32K ?
>
> Nick Vidamour wrote:
>> clean install in some ways yes
>>
>> created partitions using a seperate hard drive so that can format it
>> with 32k cluster size and then took that dive out
>> (this problem doesn't appear when creating the paritions and
>> formatting within the installation but then i'm stuck with a 4k
>> cluster size and get the same error if using partition magic to
>> change the cluster size"
>>
>> installed sata drives from floppy fine
>>
>> bios order set correctly and min hw
>> "DL" <dl@spoofmail> wrote in message
>> news:%23YfP1uvqFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> This is a clean install?
>>> i.e. you deleted and created partitions etc using wincd
>>> You installed sata drivers from floppy during the installation
>>> process?
>>>
>>> You installed into a 'bare' system?
>>> i.e. minimum hw
>>>
>>> Your bios boot order is set correctly?
>>>
>>> "Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u$XlNkvqFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array
>>>> formatted with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the
>>>> system reboots and
>>>> gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of
>>>> the sata driver and that hasn't helped either.
>>>>
>>>> motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
>>>> AMD 64 3000
>>>> Maxtor 120GB hd x2
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 6:34:47 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

thats what i'm going to do really, just been making the xp installation with
all updates and hotfixes etc...
"Maurice N ~ MVP" <maurice@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uk%2350qwqFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
For efficiency of access / reads, etc, you run Disk Defragmenter or an
add-on utility like Perfect Disk to keep data files physically contiguous.
So forget the larger cluster size on that topic. In addition, when you have
lots of very small files, a 32K cluster size is going to be very wasteful.

I think you need to start all over and install XP fresh, and let it create
the partition.

--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
-----

Nick Vidamour wrote:
> think its a case of reading what you think is right
>
> basically most people say that a larger cluster size increase speed
> due to less head movement, but visually i can't see a difference.
>
> also using a raid array they says it best to have either a matching
> or 1/2 size cluster.
>
> don't know which is correct tbh
> "Maurice N ~ MVP" <maurice@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uWXksAwqFHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Nick,
> If I may ask, Why do you want the cluster size at 32K ?
>
> Nick Vidamour wrote:
>> clean install in some ways yes
>>
>> created partitions using a seperate hard drive so that can format it
>> with 32k cluster size and then took that dive out
>> (this problem doesn't appear when creating the paritions and
>> formatting within the installation but then i'm stuck with a 4k
>> cluster size and get the same error if using partition magic to
>> change the cluster size"
>>
>> installed sata drives from floppy fine
>>
>> bios order set correctly and min hw
>> "DL" <dl@spoofmail> wrote in message
>> news:%23YfP1uvqFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> This is a clean install?
>>> i.e. you deleted and created partitions etc using wincd
>>> You installed sata drivers from floppy during the installation
>>> process?
>>>
>>> You installed into a 'bare' system?
>>> i.e. minimum hw
>>>
>>> Your bios boot order is set correctly?
>>>
>>> "Nick Vidamour" <nick@mesha64.plus.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u$XlNkvqFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Whenever I try and install windows xp inc sp2 onto a RADI 0 array
>>>> formatted with 32kcluster after the initial file copy process the
>>>> system reboots and
>>>> gives a disk read error yet when using XP sp1 the install works
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> tried pro and home and same on both also tried various versions of
>>>> the sata driver and that hasn't helped either.
>>>>
>>>> motherboard is MSI KT800 neo
>>>> AMD 64 3000
>>>> Maxtor 120GB hd x2
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