The facts that THG pulled the overclocked bechmarks speaks volums... Give THG a little credit they did in fact pull the overclocked marks and it takes a big decision in this bussiness to admit you were wrong and eat some crow.
There is nothing to admit because THEY ARE NOT BIASED. All these dumb twats who say otherwise need to take their head out of their ass and finally realize that the FX did not rape the P4. Just accept it and move on. Optimizations will come, performance will increase, but as things stand now, it was not the uber processor ya'll had decided it <i>must</i> be because it's from AMD. The only reason I respect AMD right now and may get a dualie hammer system is cause of their great FPU. Seriously tho, you can't take a farking loss. It's really idiotic. Grow up and learn that sh!t happens in the teach industry, like companies touting their horn (or more precisely what happened here- you deciding without many facts that it would be the super processor to rule the world).
AMD <i>was</i> good, lately it's been a pile of junk for those who care only about performance. Their PR rating system has ripped off customers and I've been dissapointed. Now things may change, but if they don't, too fvckin bad. I want AMD to be great too cause it's competition, but if it can't stay at the necessary level, go drink a cold water and so o well as we say in my country.
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No 100% no he stated right at the start of the article that he has recieved engeering samples of unlocked P4EE's. The fact the used them is a future of what is to come. You dont like it not my problem.
The fact that only the AMD fanboys probably threatened to kill omid and tom again is a pretty good reason they took the 3.6 off the charts.
Oh well Ill get my boat ready for December 3.
BTW WTF is up with all these AMD fagboy fanboys in our forum... oh ya wait I knew this would happen cause thats what rabid market share monkey's do.
Reasons 1: How many Qwack 3 benchies does intel want
2: Bapco- Intel owned and operated. Any moron who thinks a P4 is better than the XP at the type of simple compiling that is used in office apps deserves the intel inside idiot outside label.
3: Wrong Seti.
4: How many mp encoding benchies do we need?
Sure they removed the oced benchmarks but, they never should have counterballanced with underclocked FX .
The P4 BSEE will never see the light of day.
considering they got the p4 EE near the release dates and had already been testing the amd64's for a while I doubt the choice of benches were made there
the only thing I fault them for is not labling the graphs more clearly, if they had labeled them as oc'd then there wouldn't be much room to bitch, I also think that would have been a better solution then removing them.
second, why not just oc a 64 as far as it would go on air, do the same with the p4 and compare?
I hope you are aware that by typing this you just removed any merit your previous arguments may have had. You sound like poopy, making up stupid names and wild predictions just to make A64 seem better.
I hope that the EE is sold, it would be great. Problem is, Intel doesn't work that way. They have everything all planned out for the next 5 years. The engineering samples they shipped were just that. They were intended as spoilers for the Amd hugfest, and they worked.
I am afraid that Intel will not be willing to part with one of thier server chips for only $1000. If you dont think that makes it a BSEE I am sorry.