Have Communities URL's changed recently?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at home
is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under Win2000,
5.00.2195, SP2.

For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
Newsgroups and it worked fine.
For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window, with a
menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with the message
"Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."

My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=

Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL in the
Address bar:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US

At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link (sorry, I
don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I take the link I get
the same message.

Can you straighten me out, please?
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More about have communities changed recently
  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Welcome to Microsoft Discussion Groups
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx

    Find a Community: Find online technical communities for the Microsoft
    products and technologies you use.
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/find/default.mspx

    Microsoft Technical Communities
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/default.mspx

    Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.

    Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.

    Outlook Express came free with XP.

    Use it.

    You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.

    MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
    [[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com server, on
    nearly every available topic and in many different languages. Clicking the
    links below will automatically create any necessary account configuration in
    Outlook Express and take you directly to the newsgroup you have selected -
    no complicated technical configurations are needed!]]
    http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

    Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fdirectory%2fworldwide%2fen-gb%2fnewsout.asp

    Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp

    Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
    http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

    Getting News from Newsgroups
    Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp

    Set Up Outlook Express
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp

    Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx

    Outlook Express newsgroups 101
    http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx

    Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx

    --
    Hope this helps. Let us know.

    Wes
    MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

    In news:A7837BC8-10D3-4A94-B139-76180281BEAC@microsoft.com,
    BudV <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
    > Thanks. It works, BUT...
    > The step-through I show in my first post gets me to Windows XP newsgroups,
    > which is exactly what I want.
    >
    > Your URL takes me to a menu which -- for XP -- only shows Media Center
    > stuff, and I'm not sure how to get to where I want from there.
    >
    > "S." wrote:
    >
    >> Use this URL:
    >>
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    >>
    >> S.
    >>
    >> "BudV" wrote:
    >>
    >>> Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at
    >>> home is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under
    >>> Win2000,
    >>> 5.00.2195, SP2.
    >>>
    >>> For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    >>> Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    >>> For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window,
    >>> with a menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with
    >>> the message "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    >>>
    >>> My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    >>>
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    >>> However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    >>> temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    >>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    >>>
    >>> Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    >>> Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL
    >>> in the Address bar:
    >>>
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    >>>
    >>> At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link
    >>> (sorry, I don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I
    >>> take the link I get the same message.
    >>>
    >>> Can you straighten me out, please?
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    I hear you.

    But, like Welsey said, maybe you would be better off using a real news
    reader to go directly where you want to go.

    With the link I gave you you need to browse to where you want to go. For
    instance if you want to go to the General XP Discussion Group; English,
    Windows, General Discussion, Windows XP General Discussion. Same thing for
    Games, Security, etc.

    S.

    "BudV" wrote:

    > Thanks. It works, BUT...
    > The step-through I show in my first post gets me to Windows XP newsgroups,
    > which is exactly what I want.
    >
    > Your URL takes me to a menu which -- for XP -- only shows Media Center
    > stuff, and I'm not sure how to get to where I want from there.
    >
    > "S." wrote:
    >
    > > Use this URL:
    > >
    > > http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    > >
    > > S.
    > >
    > > "BudV" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at home
    > > > is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under Win2000,
    > > > 5.00.2195, SP2.
    > > >
    > > > For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    > > > Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    > > > For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window, with a
    > > > menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with the message
    > > > "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    > > >
    > > > My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    > > > However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    > > > temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    > > > http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    > > >
    > > > Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    > > > Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL in the
    > > > Address bar:
    > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    > > >
    > > > At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link (sorry, I
    > > > don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I take the link I get
    > > > the same message.
    > > >
    > > > Can you straighten me out, please?
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    NEW CLUES!

    I have access to four different systems. This problem occurs with AT&T's
    DSL and T1,
    but does not occur with AT&T or AOL dialup.

    "BudV" wrote:

    > (This may be a duplicate post)
    > Thanks, that works, BUT...
    > The step-through I described in my post takes me to Windows XP Newsgroups --
    > exactly where I want to be.
    >
    > Your URL takes me to something with a menu that, for XP, seems to show only
    > Media Center options.
    >
    > "S." wrote:
    >
    > > Use this URL:
    > >
    > > http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    > >
    > > S.
    > >
    > > "BudV" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at home
    > > > is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under Win2000,
    > > > 5.00.2195, SP2.
    > > >
    > > > For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    > > > Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    > > > For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window, with a
    > > > menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with the message
    > > > "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    > > >
    > > > My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    > > > However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    > > > temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    > > > http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    > > >
    > > > Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    > > > Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL in the
    > > > Address bar:
    > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    > > >
    > > > At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link (sorry, I
    > > > don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I take the link I get
    > > > the same message.
    > > >
    > > > Can you straighten me out, please?
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    "Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives."
    1) What does "CDO" stand for?
    2) Assuming that it refers to these discussion groups, I only mentioned it
    because it happens to be the OS I'm currently stuck with at work. I'm not
    asking any questions about it.

    Thank you for the comprehensive set of links. I've printed them all, and
    when I'm finished reading them I suspect I'll be an expert at something --
    I'm just not sure at what!

    I think I may be straying from the path you intended for me, so please look
    at the following comments/questions and rescue me if possible:

    I am familliar with Outlook Express and its access to newsgroups, where I
    have had some experience with pen pals and meeting a nice lady, and with
    downloading X-rated photographs. I do not, however, visualize being able to
    utilize the categorization of topics there as well as I can here.

    Dumb question (maybe). Are the postings of questions/replies here the same
    database as those I find in OE's newsgroups, but simply with a nicer
    presentation, or are they completely separate?

    I think I'm terribly confused. Can you help, or is it too late for me?

    And as long as I have your attention, please note the post I made at the
    bottom about NEW CLUES, which deals with the original reason for my post. Is
    that message "Service temporarily unavailable ..." something that Microsoft
    would generate, or could the ISP (AT&T) be generating it? (BTW, I still
    can't get here with my WinXP DSL -- I'm using my Win95 dialup!)

    Many thanks for your time and assistance.


    "Wesley Vogel" wrote:

    > Welcome to Microsoft Discussion Groups
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
    >
    > Find a Community: Find online technical communities for the Microsoft
    > products and technologies you use.
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/find/default.mspx
    >
    > Microsoft Technical Communities
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/default.mspx
    >
    > Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.
    >
    > Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.
    >
    > Outlook Express came free with XP.
    >
    > Use it.
    >
    > You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.
    >
    > MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
    > [[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com server, on
    > nearly every available topic and in many different languages. Clicking the
    > links below will automatically create any necessary account configuration in
    > Outlook Express and take you directly to the newsgroup you have selected -
    > no complicated technical configurations are needed!]]
    > http://aumha.org/nntp.htm
    >
    > Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fdirectory%2fworldwide%2fen-gb%2fnewsout.asp
    >
    > Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp
    >
    > Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
    > http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
    >
    > Getting News from Newsgroups
    > Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp
    >
    > Set Up Outlook Express
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp
    >
    > Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
    >
    > Outlook Express newsgroups 101
    > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx
    >
    > Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx
    >
    > --
    > Hope this helps. Let us know.
    >
    > Wes
    > MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
    >
    > In news:A7837BC8-10D3-4A94-B139-76180281BEAC@microsoft.com,
    > BudV <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
    > > Thanks. It works, BUT...
    > > The step-through I show in my first post gets me to Windows XP newsgroups,
    > > which is exactly what I want.
    > >
    > > Your URL takes me to a menu which -- for XP -- only shows Media Center
    > > stuff, and I'm not sure how to get to where I want from there.
    > >
    > > "S." wrote:
    > >
    > >> Use this URL:
    > >>
    > >> http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    > >>
    > >> S.
    > >>
    > >> "BudV" wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at
    > >>> home is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under
    > >>> Win2000,
    > >>> 5.00.2195, SP2.
    > >>>
    > >>> For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    > >>> Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    > >>> For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window,
    > >>> with a menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with
    > >>> the message "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    > >>>
    > >>> My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    > >>>
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    > >>> However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    > >>> temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    > >>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    > >>>
    > >>> Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    > >>> Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL
    > >>> in the Address bar:
    > >>>
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    > >>>
    > >>> At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link
    > >>> (sorry, I don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I
    > >>> take the link I get the same message.
    > >>>
    > >>> Can you straighten me out, please?
    >
    >
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Okay, I asked about CDO and I got answers, full of acronyms like ASP, NNTP,
    SMTP, and MAPI. Hey guys, I've been programming mainframe applications for
    almost 50 years, so I'm old, and tired, and a relative idiot when it comes
    down to understanding what you're trying to tell me.

    I'm pretty sure that Doug's "What you see in the web interface ..." answers
    my dumb question. But what you haven't helped me with is the confusion I'm
    showing about categorization of topics. What I see here (in the communities
    newsgroups) is "pretty", convenient, and organized as far as zeroing in on
    the proper category to browse or post. I'm missing something, because I
    don't see that same convenience in OE yet. I still need your help, but
    preferably in simple English, if you don't mind.
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    The war is over! As of a few minutes ago, I have been able to get here via
    my DSL. Don't know why. Don't care. (But I still need that help with the
    OE business.)

    "BudV" wrote:

    > NEW CLUES!
    >
    > I have access to four different systems. This problem occurs with AT&T's
    > DSL and T1,
    > but does not occur with AT&T or AOL dialup.
    >
    > "BudV" wrote:
    >
    > > (This may be a duplicate post)
    > > Thanks, that works, BUT...
    > > The step-through I described in my post takes me to Windows XP Newsgroups --
    > > exactly where I want to be.
    > >
    > > Your URL takes me to something with a menu that, for XP, seems to show only
    > > Media Center options.
    > >
    > > "S." wrote:
    > >
    > > > Use this URL:
    > > >
    > > > http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    > > >
    > > > S.
    > > >
    > > > "BudV" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at home
    > > > > is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under Win2000,
    > > > > 5.00.2195, SP2.
    > > > >
    > > > > For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    > > > > Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    > > > > For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window, with a
    > > > > menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with the message
    > > > > "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    > > > >
    > > > > My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    > > > > However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    > > > > temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    > > > >
    > > > > Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    > > > > Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL in the
    > > > > Address bar:
    > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    > > > >
    > > > > At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link (sorry, I
    > > > > don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I take the link I get
    > > > > the same message.
    > > > >
    > > > > Can you straighten me out, please?
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    CDO = Collaboration Data Objects. Its simply a set of components that allow you to do things like post to newsgroups and the like from ASP web pages, applications and other methods without having to write your own custom NNTP or SMTP interfaces.

    What you see in the web interface is the same as what you see in Outlook Express (content wise). Same posts.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "BudV" <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FC681F80-ED32-408F-A142-42DD3C283621@microsoft.com...
    > "Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives."
    > 1) What does "CDO" stand for?
    > 2) Assuming that it refers to these discussion groups, I only mentioned it
    > because it happens to be the OS I'm currently stuck with at work. I'm not
    > asking any questions about it.
    >
    > Thank you for the comprehensive set of links. I've printed them all, and
    > when I'm finished reading them I suspect I'll be an expert at something --
    > I'm just not sure at what!
    >
    > I think I may be straying from the path you intended for me, so please look
    > at the following comments/questions and rescue me if possible:
    >
    > I am familliar with Outlook Express and its access to newsgroups, where I
    > have had some experience with pen pals and meeting a nice lady, and with
    > downloading X-rated photographs. I do not, however, visualize being able to
    > utilize the categorization of topics there as well as I can here.
    >
    > Dumb question (maybe). Are the postings of questions/replies here the same
    > database as those I find in OE's newsgroups, but simply with a nicer
    > presentation, or are they completely separate?
    >
    > I think I'm terribly confused. Can you help, or is it too late for me?
    >
    > And as long as I have your attention, please note the post I made at the
    > bottom about NEW CLUES, which deals with the original reason for my post. Is
    > that message "Service temporarily unavailable ..." something that Microsoft
    > would generate, or could the ISP (AT&T) be generating it? (BTW, I still
    > can't get here with my WinXP DSL -- I'm using my Win95 dialup!)
    >
    > Many thanks for your time and assistance.
    >
    >
    > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
    >
    >> Welcome to Microsoft Discussion Groups
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
    >>
    >> Find a Community: Find online technical communities for the Microsoft
    >> products and technologies you use.
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/find/default.mspx
    >>
    >> Microsoft Technical Communities
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/default.mspx
    >>
    >> Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.
    >>
    >> Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.
    >>
    >> Outlook Express came free with XP.
    >>
    >> Use it.
    >>
    >> You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.
    >>
    >> MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
    >> [[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com server, on
    >> nearly every available topic and in many different languages. Clicking the
    >> links below will automatically create any necessary account configuration in
    >> Outlook Express and take you directly to the newsgroup you have selected -
    >> no complicated technical configurations are needed!]]
    >> http://aumha.org/nntp.htm
    >>
    >> Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fdirectory%2fworldwide%2fen-gb%2fnewsout.asp
    >>
    >> Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp
    >>
    >> Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
    >> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
    >>
    >> Getting News from Newsgroups
    >> Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp
    >>
    >> Set Up Outlook Express
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp
    >>
    >> Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
    >>
    >> Outlook Express newsgroups 101
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx
    >>
    >> Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx
    >>
    >> --
    >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
    >>
    >> Wes
    >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
    >>
    >> In news:A7837BC8-10D3-4A94-B139-76180281BEAC@microsoft.com,
    >> BudV <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
    >> > Thanks. It works, BUT...
    >> > The step-through I show in my first post gets me to Windows XP newsgroups,
    >> > which is exactly what I want.
    >> >
    >> > Your URL takes me to a menu which -- for XP -- only shows Media Center
    >> > stuff, and I'm not sure how to get to where I want from there.
    >> >
    >> > "S." wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Use this URL:
    >> >>
    >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    >> >>
    >> >> S.
    >> >>
    >> >> "BudV" wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at
    >> >>> home is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under
    >> >>> Win2000,
    >> >>> 5.00.2195, SP2.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    >> >>> Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    >> >>> For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window,
    >> >>> with a menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with
    >> >>> the message "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    >> >>>
    >> >>> My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    >> >>>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    >> >>> However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    >> >>> temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    >> >>> Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL
    >> >>> in the Address bar:
    >> >>>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    >> >>>
    >> >>> At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link
    >> >>> (sorry, I don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I
    >> >>> take the link I get the same message.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Can you straighten me out, please?
    >>
    >>
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Collabrative Data Objects

    It the component on Windows that allows programs to send mail and related things without that program having to be a mail program. It's a script interface to MAPI. Although it the one on the MS server you are connecting to that is being talked about not the one on your computer. MS's web server uses it to forward your messages into the group. It identifies the posting client as MS CDO (because it is the web server that is posting here not you unlike most of us who post direct).

    People who use the web interface are considered sub human.
    --
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
    =================================================
    "BudV" <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FC681F80-ED32-408F-A142-42DD3C283621@microsoft.com...
    > "Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives."
    > 1) What does "CDO" stand for?
    > 2) Assuming that it refers to these discussion groups, I only mentioned it
    > because it happens to be the OS I'm currently stuck with at work. I'm not
    > asking any questions about it.
    >
    > Thank you for the comprehensive set of links. I've printed them all, and
    > when I'm finished reading them I suspect I'll be an expert at something --
    > I'm just not sure at what!
    >
    > I think I may be straying from the path you intended for me, so please look
    > at the following comments/questions and rescue me if possible:
    >
    > I am familliar with Outlook Express and its access to newsgroups, where I
    > have had some experience with pen pals and meeting a nice lady, and with
    > downloading X-rated photographs. I do not, however, visualize being able to
    > utilize the categorization of topics there as well as I can here.
    >
    > Dumb question (maybe). Are the postings of questions/replies here the same
    > database as those I find in OE's newsgroups, but simply with a nicer
    > presentation, or are they completely separate?
    >
    > I think I'm terribly confused. Can you help, or is it too late for me?
    >
    > And as long as I have your attention, please note the post I made at the
    > bottom about NEW CLUES, which deals with the original reason for my post. Is
    > that message "Service temporarily unavailable ..." something that Microsoft
    > would generate, or could the ISP (AT&T) be generating it? (BTW, I still
    > can't get here with my WinXP DSL -- I'm using my Win95 dialup!)
    >
    > Many thanks for your time and assistance.
    >
    >
    > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
    >
    >> Welcome to Microsoft Discussion Groups
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
    >>
    >> Find a Community: Find online technical communities for the Microsoft
    >> products and technologies you use.
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/find/default.mspx
    >>
    >> Microsoft Technical Communities
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/default.mspx
    >>
    >> Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 is akin to bear skins and stone knives.
    >>
    >> Do yourself a favor and setup a real newsreader.
    >>
    >> Outlook Express came free with XP.
    >>
    >> Use it.
    >>
    >> You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.
    >>
    >> MICROSOFT PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS
    >> [[There are many valuable newsgroups on the msnews.microsoft.com server, on
    >> nearly every available topic and in many different languages. Clicking the
    >> links below will automatically create any necessary account configuration in
    >> Outlook Express and take you directly to the newsgroup you have selected -
    >> no complicated technical configurations are needed!]]
    >> http://aumha.org/nntp.htm
    >>
    >> Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fdirectory%2fworldwide%2fen-gb%2fnewsout.asp
    >>
    >> Viewing and Posting to Newsgroups
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/newsgroups.asp
    >>
    >> Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader
    >> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
    >>
    >> Getting News from Newsgroups
    >> Ignore this part ->> Access a newsgroup right from the Web.
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/gettingnews.asp
    >>
    >> Set Up Outlook Express
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/oe/setup.asp
    >>
    >> Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express: Power User Tips
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
    >>
    >> Outlook Express newsgroups 101
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/community/columns/newsgroups101.mspx
    >>
    >> Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx
    >>
    >> --
    >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
    >>
    >> Wes
    >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
    >>
    >> In news:A7837BC8-10D3-4A94-B139-76180281BEAC@microsoft.com,
    >> BudV <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
    >> > Thanks. It works, BUT...
    >> > The step-through I show in my first post gets me to Windows XP newsgroups,
    >> > which is exactly what I want.
    >> >
    >> > Your URL takes me to a menu which -- for XP -- only shows Media Center
    >> > stuff, and I'm not sure how to get to where I want from there.
    >> >
    >> > "S." wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Use this URL:
    >> >>
    >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    >> >>
    >> >> S.
    >> >>
    >> >> "BudV" wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at
    >> >>> home is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under
    >> >>> Win2000,
    >> >>> 5.00.2195, SP2.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    >> >>> Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    >> >>> For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window,
    >> >>> with a menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with
    >> >>> the message "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    >> >>>
    >> >>> My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    >> >>>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    >> >>> However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    >> >>> temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    >> >>> Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL
    >> >>> in the Address bar:
    >> >>>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    >> >>>
    >> >>> At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link
    >> >>> (sorry, I don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I
    >> >>> take the link I get the same message.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Can you straighten me out, please?
    >>
    >>
  9. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    What exact help.

    --
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
    =================================================
    "BudV" <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A459D143-3628-46AA-9736-E39C94747350@microsoft.com...
    > The war is over! As of a few minutes ago, I have been able to get here via
    > my DSL. Don't know why. Don't care. (But I still need that help with the
    > OE business.)
    >
    > "BudV" wrote:
    >
    >> NEW CLUES!
    >>
    >> I have access to four different systems. This problem occurs with AT&T's
    >> DSL and T1,
    >> but does not occur with AT&T or AOL dialup.
    >>
    >> "BudV" wrote:
    >>
    >> > (This may be a duplicate post)
    >> > Thanks, that works, BUT...
    >> > The step-through I described in my post takes me to Windows XP Newsgroups --
    >> > exactly where I want to be.
    >> >
    >> > Your URL takes me to something with a menu that, for XP, seems to show only
    >> > Media Center options.
    >> >
    >> > "S." wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > Use this URL:
    >> > >
    >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    >> > >
    >> > > S.
    >> > >
    >> > > "BudV" wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > > > Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My PC at home
    >> > > > is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under Win2000,
    >> > > > 5.00.2195, SP2.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for Communities
    >> > > > Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    >> > > > For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft window, with a
    >> > > > menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with the message
    >> > > > "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    >> > > >
    >> > > > My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the following:
    >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    >> > > > However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    >> > > > temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar is:
    >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com -> Communities ->
    >> > > > Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following URL in the
    >> > > > Address bar:
    >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    >> > > >
    >> > > > At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link (sorry, I
    >> > > > don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I take the link I get
    >> > > > the same message.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Can you straighten me out, please?
  10. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Well, you probably should have told me to RTFM. :-)

    I hadn't yet read the writeups that Wesley gave me, so I was operating a
    little in the dark. Now that I've reviewed them, I've set up my msnews
    folder in OE, and things are starting to fall into place. In fact, I'm
    replying here via OE.

    I don't care about ASP, NNTP, SMTP, and MAPI, and I still think the
    communities put on a nicer presentation, but I'm here to stay. Thanks to all
    of you for your help.

    BudV


    "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
    news:edJ8HnzrFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    What exact help.

    --
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
    =================================================
    "BudV" <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A459D143-3628-46AA-9736-E39C94747350@microsoft.com...
    > The war is over! As of a few minutes ago, I have been able to get here
    > via
    > my DSL. Don't know why. Don't care. (But I still need that help with
    > the
    > OE business.)
    >
    > "BudV" wrote:
    >
    >> NEW CLUES!
    >>
    >> I have access to four different systems. This problem occurs with AT&T's
    >> DSL and T1,
    >> but does not occur with AT&T or AOL dialup.
    >>
    >> "BudV" wrote:
    >>
    >> > (This may be a duplicate post)
    >> > Thanks, that works, BUT...
    >> > The step-through I described in my post takes me to Windows XP
    >> > Newsgroups --
    >> > exactly where I want to be.
    >> >
    >> > Your URL takes me to something with a menu that, for XP, seems to show
    >> > only
    >> > Media Center options.
    >> >
    >> > "S." wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > Use this URL:
    >> > >
    >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    >> > >
    >> > > S.
    >> > >
    >> > > "BudV" wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > > > Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My
    >> > > > PC at home
    >> > > > is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under
    >> > > > Win2000,
    >> > > > 5.00.2195, SP2.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for
    >> > > > Communities
    >> > > > Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    >> > > > For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft
    >> > > > window, with a
    >> > > > menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with the
    >> > > > message
    >> > > > "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    >> > > >
    >> > > > My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the
    >> > > > following:
    >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    >> > > > However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    >> > > > temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar
    >> > > > is:
    >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com ->
    >> > > > Communities ->
    >> > > > Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following
    >> > > > URL in the
    >> > > > Address bar:
    >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    >> > > >
    >> > > > At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link
    >> > > > (sorry, I
    >> > > > don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I take the
    >> > > > link I get
    >> > > > the same message.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Can you straighten me out, please?
  11. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    BudV,

    Yes, you certainly are...
    X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180

    You will later wonder why you didn't setup OE as your newsreader sooner.

    --
    Hope this helps. Let us know.

    Wes
    MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

    In news:uu6GlM0rFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
    BudV <BudVitoff@att.(remove)net> hunted and pecked:
    > Well, you probably should have told me to RTFM. :-)
    >
    > I hadn't yet read the writeups that Wesley gave me, so I was operating a
    > little in the dark. Now that I've reviewed them, I've set up my msnews
    > folder in OE, and things are starting to fall into place. In fact, I'm
    > replying here via OE.
    >
    > I don't care about ASP, NNTP, SMTP, and MAPI, and I still think the
    > communities put on a nicer presentation, but I'm here to stay. Thanks to
    > all of you for your help.
    >
    > BudV
    >
    >
    > "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
    > news:edJ8HnzrFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > What exact help.
    >
    > --
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------
    > http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
    > =================================================
    > "BudV" <BudV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:A459D143-3628-46AA-9736-E39C94747350@microsoft.com...
    >> The war is over! As of a few minutes ago, I have been able to get here
    >> via
    >> my DSL. Don't know why. Don't care. (But I still need that help with
    >> the
    >> OE business.)
    >>
    >> "BudV" wrote:
    >>
    >>> NEW CLUES!
    >>>
    >>> I have access to four different systems. This problem occurs with
    >>> AT&T's DSL and T1,
    >>> but does not occur with AT&T or AOL dialup.
    >>>
    >>> "BudV" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> (This may be a duplicate post)
    >>>> Thanks, that works, BUT...
    >>>> The step-through I described in my post takes me to Windows XP
    >>>> Newsgroups --
    >>>> exactly where I want to be.
    >>>>
    >>>> Your URL takes me to something with a menu that, for XP, seems to show
    >>>> only
    >>>> Media Center options.
    >>>>
    >>>> "S." wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Use this URL:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
    >>>>>
    >>>>> S.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "BudV" wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Can somebody tell me what's going on with the newgroups URL's? My
    >>>>>> PC at home
    >>>>>> is under WinXP Home SP2. I'm currently on my PC at work under
    >>>>>> Win2000,
    >>>>>> 5.00.2195, SP2.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> For a long time, at home I've had a URL in my Favorites for
    >>>>>> Communities
    >>>>>> Newsgroups and it worked fine.
    >>>>>> For several days now, it has taken me to the usual Microsoft
    >>>>>> window, with a
    >>>>>> menu on the left pane, but the right pane has been white with the
    >>>>>> message
    >>>>>> "Service temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> My Favorites URL at work (for Windows XP Newsgroups) is the
    >>>>>> following:
    >>>>>>
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&p=1&tid=0888dbc3-c2c8-4f08-be46-ce8be7e90c15&mid=2937fab2-5a6b-4959-82d5-acf8e4b75775#62029200-25db-4f70-98a3-e3c3ae74f72c
    >>>>>> However, when I use it I get an all-white screen with the "Service
    >>>>>> temporarily unavailable" message, but what shows in the Address bar
    >>>>>> is:
    >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/err.aspx?sloc=en-us&stgxml=
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Now, at work, I can step my way from Microsoft.com ->
    >>>>>> Communities ->
    >>>>>> Newsgroups -> Windows XP and it works fine, showing the following
    >>>>>> URL in the
    >>>>>> Address bar:
    >>>>>>
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> At home, I got e-mail help from Microsoft and they gave me a link
    >>>>>> (sorry, I
    >>>>>> don't have it here) which they say works fine, but when I take the
    >>>>>> link I get
    >>>>>> the same message.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Can you straighten me out, please?
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