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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 6:10:03 PM

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Hello my problem is I get a virtual memory low so I check it out and I have
DRWTSN32.EXE coming up under processes and it runs over 2500 processes of
DRWTSN32.EXE which makes my computer extremely slow. I'm probably wrong but
it happened earlier today and my friend told me to type in MSCONFIG in the
RUN menu and go to startup and disable all of them because I was running too
much, so I did and it worked. But after I had to restart later on in the day,
when it came up and I clicked on my Spyware or something it the processes
start coming back up and it was slow again. I'm not really sure what triggers
it but when it happens I can't really do anything unless I reset it. I've
never had this problem until I had to reinstall my Privacy program from
McAfee. Could that be a problem? I don't know, no clue. Does anyone have an
idea what could be making it go to that and help me fix it?

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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 6:38:22 PM

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This is the Dr. Watson program debugger included in Windows. More info here:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308538

Chris

"Gabriel" wrote:

> Hello my problem is I get a virtual memory low so I check it out and I have
> DRWTSN32.EXE coming up under processes and it runs over 2500 processes of
> DRWTSN32.EXE which makes my computer extremely slow. I'm probably wrong but
> it happened earlier today and my friend told me to type in MSCONFIG in the
> RUN menu and go to startup and disable all of them because I was running too
> much, so I did and it worked. But after I had to restart later on in the day,
> when it came up and I clicked on my Spyware or something it the processes
> start coming back up and it was slow again. I'm not really sure what triggers
> it but when it happens I can't really do anything unless I reset it. I've
> never had this problem until I had to reinstall my Privacy program from
> McAfee. Could that be a problem? I don't know, no clue. Does anyone have an
> idea what could be making it go to that and help me fix it?
Anonymous
August 30, 2005 7:12:04 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

I know this is a debugger. What I don't know is what is causing this to
happen, since I've wrote this not too long ago it has happen twice, it just
start running that over and over where my system can't handle it. How can I
find out what is making that pop up over and over?

"mibrnsurg" wrote:

> This is the Dr. Watson program debugger included in Windows. More info here:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308538
>
> Chris
>
> "Gabriel" wrote:
>
> > Hello my problem is I get a virtual memory low so I check it out and I have
> > DRWTSN32.EXE coming up under processes and it runs over 2500 processes of
> > DRWTSN32.EXE which makes my computer extremely slow. I'm probably wrong but
> > it happened earlier today and my friend told me to type in MSCONFIG in the
> > RUN menu and go to startup and disable all of them because I was running too
> > much, so I did and it worked. But after I had to restart later on in the day,
> > when it came up and I clicked on my Spyware or something it the processes
> > start coming back up and it was slow again. I'm not really sure what triggers
> > it but when it happens I can't really do anything unless I reset it. I've
> > never had this problem until I had to reinstall my Privacy program from
> > McAfee. Could that be a problem? I don't know, no clue. Does anyone have an
> > idea what could be making it go to that and help me fix it?
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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 10:18:09 PM

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Gabriel

Low virtual memory warnings appear as your hard drive fills up.. if you only
have a small amount of RAM and your hard drive fills up, the messages become
more frequent.. they do not appear because there are a few items in
start-up.. I have 25 items showing in the MSCONFIG list..

You need to look at cleaning out your drive, or buying a second unit to help
with program installation and file saving.. XP's own Disk Cleanup will help
you remove useless and/or unnecessary files.. at the very least, you should
have 15% free space on your HDD, and 25% is even better.. this gives some
space for your pagefile to play in..

Slow response can be down to the above, and also spyware..

Spyware and its associates lurk in all places.. P2P services are among the
biggest spreaders of grief, so avoid programs like Kazaa for instance.. even
if you install the so-called spyware free versions, files downloaded from
these services can be devastating.. there are users of these services that
deliberately make infected files available to the unwary.. others just do
not realise that their systems are infecting those of others in a covert
manner..



Websites offering free programs often have 'sponsor' software that comes
down with them.. it is important when installing free programs to look
carefully at check boxes.. if you are given the option to NOT install
sponsor material, take it..



Something else to be wary about.. replying to e-mails that offer services
that you really don't want.. replying very often leads to floods of other
internet 'waste'.. just delete them.. and one more thing on this topic.. I
have noticed that the Microsoft Cumulative Patch e-mail has surfaced again..
Microsoft do NOT send patches out to 'Dear Friend' EVER.. do not open them..
just delete them..



Please try the processes below.. and do them in order.. none of the
processes are beyond the abilities of a newbie user..



A note before you start.. if you have any misgivings about turning off
System Restore, then don't do it.. personally, I turn it off but I leave it
up to you.. if you have tried to use System Restore recently, and it has not
worked or given you error messages, then there is no point in keeping any
restore points anyway..



OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the Start
button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now select
the 'System Restore' tab..

Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on all
drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose all
restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'



Now to the removal process..



Run a one shot virus remover.. I have found that McAfee Stinger works for
people.. download and run it..



http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/



Another alternative is ..



http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.as...



Finish this process first..



You will also need to download Spyware removal software.. Spybot and Adaware
are available at these websites.. both are free.. download and run them..
don't forget to check for updates after you have started them..



http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html



http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/



.... and this link is for the latest Microsoft helping..



http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/softwa...



Spybot has the ability to immunize a system, but there is better for this
function, so download and run Spyware Blaster too.. again, check for
updates..



http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/



The above programs all need to be updated after the initial install.. do
this, and then run them..



Time to turn ON System Restore.. this is obviously like turning it OFF, so
just reverse the procedure..



If you have had your Internet browser hijacked, that is to say, you get
redirected through a search engine NOT of your choosing, you will need
different tools.. the best website for tools to rid yourself of home page
hijackers is.............



http://www.pchell.com



Mark Hasting has put much work into this site.. it is an invaluable site,
both for reference and fix-its..



You must also run a firewall and anti-virus program.. here are some links
for you..

http://www.mcafee.com

http://www.zonealarm.com

http://www.kerio.com

http://www.sygate.com

http://www.avast.com

http://www.grisoft.com



If you do not run a firewall and anti-virus solution, you are leaving
yourself open to attacks of all kinds.. these two types of program are your
first line of defence..



So by now, your system should be in reasonable shape.. you will have tools
'locked and loaded', ready for weekly use against those who seek to destroy
your pleasure.. incorporate these into a housekeeping policy that includes
running Defragmenter and Disk Cleanup, and you will be able to easily
maintain your system..



Please return to this thread and provide feedback.. it is the only way that
helpers here can determine how effective the advice given has been..



Good luck..




--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Gabriel" <ballergac@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0286AEC1-302D-4B25-9435-00AE0ECDFA8A@microsoft.com...
> Hello my problem is I get a virtual memory low so I check it out and I
> have
> DRWTSN32.EXE coming up under processes and it runs over 2500 processes of
> DRWTSN32.EXE which makes my computer extremely slow. I'm probably wrong
> but
> it happened earlier today and my friend told me to type in MSCONFIG in the
> RUN menu and go to startup and disable all of them because I was running
> too
> much, so I did and it worked. But after I had to restart later on in the
> day,
> when it came up and I clicked on my Spyware or something it the processes
> start coming back up and it was slow again. I'm not really sure what
> triggers
> it but when it happens I can't really do anything unless I reset it. I've
> never had this problem until I had to reinstall my Privacy program from
> McAfee. Could that be a problem? I don't know, no clue. Does anyone have
> an
> idea what could be making it go to that and help me fix it?
Anonymous
August 30, 2005 10:18:10 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

"Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Gabriel
>
>Low virtual memory warnings appear as your hard drive fills up.. if you only
>have a small amount of RAM and your hard drive fills up, the messages become
>more frequent.. they do not appear because there are a few items in
>start-up.. I have 25 items showing in the MSCONFIG list..

Low virtual memory warnings can appear if the pagefile has been
manually configured with a set maximum size and the virtual memory
load increases to the point where nearly all of the maximum pagefile
space is needed.

<snip>

>
>A note before you start.. if you have any misgivings about turning off
>System Restore, then don't do it.. personally, I turn it off but I leave it
>up to you.. if you have tried to use System Restore recently, and it has not
>worked or given you error messages, then there is no point in keeping any
>restore points anyway..

For accurate and useful information about System Restore, how to use
it, and how to keep it functioning properly please see MVP Bert
Kinney's System Restore web pages at http://bertk.mvps.org/index.html

>
>
>
>OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the Start
>button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now select
>the 'System Restore' tab..
>
>Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on all
>drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose all
>restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'
>

That is bad advice, dangerously bad in fact. System Restore should
never repeat never be disabled as part of a problem solving situation.
If there are malware items contained in the System Restore data (and
this can happen) then they are only a risk to the computer if System
Restore is actually used to set the computer back to a previous date
and time. And even then an infected but functioning computer is
often preferable to one that is non-functioning and which cannot be
restored.

System Restore data can (and should) be purged of any malware content
that is encapsulated in the archives, but only after the active
infestation has been fixed and the computer is functioning normally.
Then it is quite easy to do. First create a new System Restore point.
Then use the Advanced Option in the Disk Cleanup utility to delete all
but the most recent System Restore points.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
Anonymous
August 30, 2005 10:55:36 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Gabriel

You might want to shoot McAfee Privacy Service..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Gabriel" <ballergac@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B6EFE572-4E0B-4B6C-BC37-0A32356248F6@microsoft.com...
>I know this is a debugger. What I don't know is what is causing this to
> happen, since I've wrote this not too long ago it has happen twice, it
> just
> start running that over and over where my system can't handle it. How can
> I
> find out what is making that pop up over and over?
>
> "mibrnsurg" wrote:
>
>> This is the Dr. Watson program debugger included in Windows. More info
>> here:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308538
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> "Gabriel" wrote:
>>
>> > Hello my problem is I get a virtual memory low so I check it out and I
>> > have
>> > DRWTSN32.EXE coming up under processes and it runs over 2500 processes
>> > of
>> > DRWTSN32.EXE which makes my computer extremely slow. I'm probably wrong
>> > but
>> > it happened earlier today and my friend told me to type in MSCONFIG in
>> > the
>> > RUN menu and go to startup and disable all of them because I was
>> > running too
>> > much, so I did and it worked. But after I had to restart later on in
>> > the day,
>> > when it came up and I clicked on my Spyware or something it the
>> > processes
>> > start coming back up and it was slow again. I'm not really sure what
>> > triggers
>> > it but when it happens I can't really do anything unless I reset it.
>> > I've
>> > never had this problem until I had to reinstall my Privacy program from
>> > McAfee. Could that be a problem? I don't know, no clue. Does anyone
>> > have an
>> > idea what could be making it go to that and help me fix it?
Anonymous
August 31, 2005 1:04:26 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Ron

I do not consider it to be 'dangerously' bad advice.. if I did, I wouldn't
suggest it.. it is something that I do, and I have had no 'dangerous' side
effects ever from doing it..

Bert's page is very good, and if that is the only problem that a user has, I
am sure they would love to sit down and read it.. but when a user is
panicking because their system is all screwed up and use of System Restore
only seems to make things worse, they may not find the time or immediate
desire to go through it..

I rephrased the leading statement to partially accommodate what you had
said.. for now, until somebody can prove to me that it is categorically
dangerous to disable a System Restore that is most likely corrupted as all
hell, my rephrase stands, and if that leads to you following me around,
accusing me of advocating dangerous practice, then I guess that's how its
going to be..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bkt9h19lo4iis55m7pa006ltfcc7jkrtns@4ax.com...
> "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>Gabriel
>>
>>Low virtual memory warnings appear as your hard drive fills up.. if you
>>only
>>have a small amount of RAM and your hard drive fills up, the messages
>>become
>>more frequent.. they do not appear because there are a few items in
>>start-up.. I have 25 items showing in the MSCONFIG list..
>
> Low virtual memory warnings can appear if the pagefile has been
> manually configured with a set maximum size and the virtual memory
> load increases to the point where nearly all of the maximum pagefile
> space is needed.
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>>A note before you start.. if you have any misgivings about turning off
>>System Restore, then don't do it.. personally, I turn it off but I leave
>>it
>>up to you.. if you have tried to use System Restore recently, and it has
>>not
>>worked or given you error messages, then there is no point in keeping any
>>restore points anyway..
>
> For accurate and useful information about System Restore, how to use
> it, and how to keep it functioning properly please see MVP Bert
> Kinney's System Restore web pages at http://bertk.mvps.org/index.html
>
>>
>>
>>
>>OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the Start
>>button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now select
>>the 'System Restore' tab..
>>
>>Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on all
>>drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose all
>>restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'
>>
>
> That is bad advice, dangerously bad in fact. System Restore should
> never repeat never be disabled as part of a problem solving situation.
> If there are malware items contained in the System Restore data (and
> this can happen) then they are only a risk to the computer if System
> Restore is actually used to set the computer back to a previous date
> and time. And even then an infected but functioning computer is
> often preferable to one that is non-functioning and which cannot be
> restored.
>
> System Restore data can (and should) be purged of any malware content
> that is encapsulated in the archives, but only after the active
> infestation has been fixed and the computer is functioning normally.
> Then it is quite easy to do. First create a new System Restore point.
> Then use the Advanced Option in the Disk Cleanup utility to delete all
> but the most recent System Restore points.
>
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> http://aumha.org/alex.htm
!