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Sp00nLude   10-12-2003 at 02:26:49 AM

Hi guys,

This really sucks, I took out my heatsink and cleaned it and then applied AS3 for my amd 2000+, then put everything back. When I start my computer, it wont go anywhere, my monitor will just have a blank screeen, so i thought maybe i put too much as3, then i took off some and tried, same thing. I thought i killed my cpu so then i took out my old 1600+ and it still dun start. What could be wrong?

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Scout   10-12-2003 at 06:42:30 AM
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In working on the CPU, you may have knocked something else lose. Try reseating the video card and check for anything else you may have bumped.

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Sp00nLude   10-12-2003 at 07:06:42 AM
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yeah i tried putting the video card back in place...the thing is....it booted up ONCE before it totally doesnt work anymore....and when i went to the bios the temps were going up really fast....that is why i shut it down....i also tried putting the ram back in....

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Sp00nLude   10-12-2003 at 07:29:08 AM
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would it help resetting the BIOS on my motherboard? I really have no idea what could be going on, everything worked fine before i cleaned the HSF and applied the Arctic silver 3.

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Woodman   10-12-2003 at 08:17:49 AM
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Are you sure the HSF isn't tilted or something? And how fast were the temperatures rising (per second)?

Let your processor cool off for maybe 15-30 minutes, then test it again, making sure the HSF is placed properly.

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ironmike   10-12-2003 at 02:51:50 PM
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i did that once and discovered that the heat sink can be put on wrong, a ledge on the bottom going the wrong way.something to check??????

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Sp00nLude   10-12-2003 at 10:34:21 PM
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the temps were going up pretty steady...maybe 1 deree per second....went up to 67 when i manually shut it down.

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Sp00nLude   10-12-2003 at 10:35:15 PM
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yeah the hsf is on right i checked that the ledge was on the right side of the mount. is it possible that my grpahic card died?

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ironmike   10-12-2003 at 11:02:18 PM
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i am guessing here, but with temps. going steadilly up i would think it would be something with heatsink and fan, make sure fan plugged in correctly and working. I dont know why a video card would cause a steady rise in temp.Artic silver didnt spill over on anything causeing short, after that i wouldnt know????. Hope you get it goin

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Woodman   10-13-2003 at 02:55:20 AM
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Yes, Ironmike's right. It has to be something to do with the HSF.

Check again, and make sure that the step section of your HSF fits very snugly over the socket, use a mirror & torch if you have to. Because if it's not, then it'll be tilting to one side, making 100% contact impossible, thus causing the rise in temperature.

I had that exact problem once, but after repositioning the clips to make sure that the step fit snugly, I didn't have that problem since.

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Scout   10-13-2003 at 03:44:39 AM
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Try this - remove and clean the HSF. Then put a small amount of AS on the CPU only and then position the "dry" HSF in the correct position (notch on the correct side) and then press straight down to compress the four rubber pads on the corners of the CPU. Then remove the HSF and look to see that the CPU paste has evenly contacted the HSF. This will tell you if you're getting a good contact between the HSF and CPU.

If the contact patch is good, then spread a thin layer on the HSF and reapply a small amount on the CPU and mount it up using the clips.

If your temps are going up, what does the BIOS hardware monitor say the voltage is to the CPU? It should only be about 1.65 volts...

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Sp00nLude   10-13-2003 at 11:13:26 PM
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Thanks all.

I will try to use the HSF and see how much contact I'm getting....but at this point....would my CPU still be alive? I use a volcano 7+ HSF and the clips on that thing is so hard to use on the socket A that im afraid to crush my CPU when placing that thing on top of it. One corner of the sponge on the cpu is off...and what could i use to clean the cpu contact and the hsf surface with? I was using tissue to wipe off the excess AS3. I am currently waitin for my old 1600+ to get to me and I will give it a try weith some generic thermal compound, then if it boots I'm a happy man....if it doesnt' then that means i gotta go shopping for a new set of mb/cpu soon =[

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Woodman   10-14-2003 at 03:20:04 AM
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<b>I will try to use the HSF and see how much contact I'm getting....but at this point....would my CPU still be alive?</b>
Dunno, but you can always use your working 1600+ right?


<b>and what could i use to clean the cpu contact and the hsf surface with? I was using tissue to wipe off the excess AS3.</b>
100% isopropyl alcohol will work fine.

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endyen   10-14-2003 at 05:22:42 AM
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If one of the spacers on the chip is gone, that is probably your problem, as the hsf is now tilted. You can get a shim that will do the job. That chip does have some overheat protection, so it probably has survived. If you can get to the bios, change that to definately has survived. Do not try to boot that chip again without first getting a shim. I would also suggest that you use standard heat sink compound, as some people have had the same complaint with artic silver.

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Sp00nLude   10-14-2003 at 08:30:03 PM
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yeah i would definitely try to use my old working 1600+ with generic thermal compound and also use it on the 2000+ I won't get all that stuff till the end of the week so i will keep u guys posted and hopefully it's just the AS3 acting up....HOPEFULLY i didnt kill my cpu and i hope that i dun kill the 1600+ too....=\ thanks guys for all ur feedback. I'll let u know what happens.

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slvr_phoenix   10-15-2003 at 03:13:21 PM
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I would also suggest that you use standard heat sink compound, as some people have had the same complaint with artic silver.


What's wrong with AS?

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ChipDeath   10-15-2003 at 05:53:00 PM
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I was curious about that...

The only 'problem' I can see with AS that you wouldn't get with the stock stuff is that it's conductive, so if you mis-read the instructions and smear it all over the top of the CPU (i.e. not just the die area) then you'll short out all your bridges and your CPU won't work (until you clean it at least)...

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slvr_phoenix   10-15-2003 at 05:59:42 PM
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**ROFL** That'd take true genius to do. :O But I thought that pretty much every paste out there has the same problem. AS Ceramique doesn't though. I can't wait to try that stuff out.

The <i>only</i> 'complaint' (if you can even call it one) that I'd ever heard about AS was that AS3 and ASC crystalize. I mean that's the point of them because that's how they improve the heat transfer, but I guess some people don't like that? :\ I don't know.

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Sp00nLude   10-18-2003 at 07:42:46 AM
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Hi

I only applied to the die area and probably applied too much at first but I wiped some off.

new update:
Got a new cpu/mb set to see if my mb was dead. turns out that it still dun boot. I might look into a new graphic card with this new cpu/mb tho since my graphic card's fan have been underperformance and it might have just died too, not sure at this point. this is really frustrating....no computer for a whole week now =[

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